Rugby World Cup 2019 Japan The hunt for Webb Ellis

MadYaker · 26-10-2019 06:57PM

Amprodude wrote: »

I cant see it. England have been the best team in the world cup so far from what i have seen and we will all soon see that.

They might not have been consistent in the past but they have been in this tournament. Maybe if its against SA they could bottle it but they must be hot favourites now.

c.p.w.g.w · 26-10-2019 07:46PM

MadYaker wrote: »

They might not have been consistent in the past but they have been in this tournament. Maybe if its against SA they could bottle it but they must be hot favourites now.

Only saw the 2nd half but what I really noticed was how aggressive England were at the breakdown, and how effective their blitz was

SharpshooterTom · 26-10-2019 07:49PM

MadYaker wrote: »

They might not have been consistent in the past but they have been in this tournament. Maybe if its against SA they could bottle it but they must be hot favourites now.

The bookies don't have them 'hot' favourites.

England - 5/7
South Africa - 2/1
Wales - 9/1

https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/rugby-union/market/1.121622052

I suspect England's odds will drift slightly if SA are victories and shorten if Wales are. They're favourites sure but not peak Usain Bolt 100m kinda favourites (who used to be as short as 1/10)

SharpshooterTom · 26-10-2019 07:52PM

I was amongst the most ardent of forecasters on here for England beating NZ, but I'm less certain about their prospects in the final, especially against SA.

I think some people are getting carried away with England, but we've been in this position before with England under Eddie Jones. Not saying they wont win but, the way people are talking as if it would be a huge shock if the Boks did them in the final is bit much.

penybont exile · 26-10-2019 08:43PM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Under Jones England have blown hot and cold at times this year.

When England turned Ireland over in the six nations in Dublin, there was a lot of talk immediately after of handing England the 6N now, Grand Slam champions in waiting, England are back, another winning streak begins etc.

Then they lost to Wales out of the blue. Completely unexpected (at least according to the press). I thought they were nailed on for the 6N too myself.

Thrash Ireland in the warmups but then lost to Wales away.

They always have a massive match under Eddie Jones where all parts are working and everything goes plan and look unbeatable. But they do have some really bad games, quite frequently as well.

England are outstanding on their day where nobody can live with them, but they're not invincible.

England might win the WC, but don't surprised to see a performance that looks nothing like they're QF and SF performances and they lose.

It's called plan X ..... we just need to deliver on plan X-1 tomorrow.....

blinding · 26-10-2019 09:03PM

C’Mon Wales .

Gamb!t · 26-10-2019 10:02PM

I could see Wales troubling England more than South Africa.

blinding · 26-10-2019 10:04PM

Gamb!t wrote: »

I could see Wales troubling England more than South Africa.

They better trouble South Africa first !;)

FrancieBrady · 26-10-2019 10:04PM

Gamb!t wrote: »

I could see Wales troubling England more than South Africa.

Wales are being depleted, if they get by SA it will be at the biggest cost they have paid.

They'd be easy pickings for England then.

Lucy8080 · 26-10-2019 11:43PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Wales are being depleted, if they get by SA it will be at the biggest cost they have paid.

They'd be easy pickings for England then.

I think Wales were riddled with injuries in 2015? They left England behind in the group stages.

England have the best form this W.C. I'd back them to put the Boks away in a Final.

But England versus Wales...jeez, I think I'd keep my hand in my pocket.