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Clare GAA Discussion - 2024 All Ireland Hurling Champions

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    BnB wrote: »
    That chorus coverage was just brilliant back in the day. Way ahead of it's time for regional sports coverage. Was what you could see based on where you were watching in any way ? I remember I was living and working in Cork at the time and it was almost always Cork games that were on. It was still brilliant though. You'd turn on the telly some evening and there would be some random senior quarter final or something on. I mightn't have a clue of the teams, but t'was a hell of a lot better than most of the rest of the scutter on the box.

    i think it was regionally based , most of what we saw up here were from say clare tipperary and limerick , it would show club games from cork or kerry if there were no games in the other 3 counties

    trevor welsh from tv3 started his career with them , mainly on the cork station , but yeah there was no structure to it really , you had no idea what games they were going to cover until you watched it there was no advertising on it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Clareman wrote: »
    Blast from the past that, Chorus on channel 10, it was brilliant service

    brilliant , but a bit amateurish like people were saying about the clare youtube channel

    i would happily take an amateurish video recording or online service then nothing at all also people have a chance to look back in years to come on how the championship unfolded this year

    in the last couple of years SMB and cratloe played out 2 or 3 excellent games in the championship and you cant even find highlights for them , as you said the other day casting on to your tv or watching on a smart tv makes it an excellent service


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Gael85


    Naomh Eoin beat Kilkee 0-10 to 1-6. Kilkee relegated down to junior


  • Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭roashter


    Gael85 wrote: »
    Naomh Eoin beat Kilkee 0-10 to 1-6. Kilkee relegated down to intermediate.

    Kilkee are relegated to Junior A


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Gael85


    roashter wrote: »
    Kilkee are relegated to Junior A

    My bad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Gael85


    St Breckans win by a point. Clare TV had the incorrect score for second half.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40 AnClar14959713


    Just back from an entertaining Clare football Intermediate Final in Cusack Park.

    My first thoughts is that the better team lost. Kildysart owned and bossed possession and made St Breckans look pretty poor at times. The old saying that goals win matches and the two first half goals by the Lisdoonvarna men proved key. Colm O'Brien and recent Clare minor Padraig Kelly with the two majors.

    For the winners I felt that Clare senior panelist Dale Masterson was most impressive with his impressive fielding in the middle of the field. But other than that, St Breckans flattered to deceive and despite holding a 4 point lead at H-T and with the aid of the elements for the 2nd 35 minutes, it took a late Joe McGann point (their only score in the entire 2nd half) to give the North Clare men the victory.

    However a lot of huge credit must go Kildysart. In midfield the outstanding duo of Kieran O'Brien and Emmet McMahon, who stood above head and shoulders, with an fantastic display chipping in with an outstanding 4 points from play. McMahon who will surely be part of Colm Collins and new Clare U-20 football manager Michael Neylon's plans for 2020, is a future Clare senior football captain in the making, belied his youthful years with a most mature and composed display.

    In defense for the West Clare men, I felt that Brian Eyres and Shane McNeilis were most impressive with their ability to win turnovers and frustrated what many felt was a very potent St Breckans forward line. In general Kildysart outfought and outworked their opponents, but their poor shooting costed them what would have been a huge momentous piece of silverware, that club deserves for years of hard work being done underage there. Their time will come and I certainly would put them as strong favorites to win the 2020 Clare Intermediate title. They have Division 1 Cusack Cup football to look forward to next year after their Garry Cup success early in the year, so as the old saying goes, the future is bright.

    So St Breckans are the county intermediate champions in football for 2019. However I doubt that the Donie Garrihy managed side will do much damage in the Munster campaign on the basis of what I saw today. Meanwhile St Senans Kilkee's decline shows no sign of ending after their relegation to Junior A football was confirmed, after a 1 point defeat to Naomh Eoin in the Intermediate relegation play-off today. To me an amalgamation for Kilkee in adult level, is the only solution if they are to have a meaningful future. Personally they need to gather all relevant stakeholders in the club and make some very tough decisions, that will ensure that football in this proud part of West Clare remains viable.

    Obviously the spike in emigration in recent years has affected the area very hard and as a tight knit community, they have suffered a lot of personal tragedy in recent times, which has meant for obvious reasons that football was not their number one priority. Fingers crossed that whatever decision that the club stakeholders make, that there will be a brighter future for Kilkee football as we simply cannot allow football to die completely there, for a club that has produced so many fine footballers in the past, including Ger Keane and the late Michael O'Shea, to name but a few.

    Tomorrow St Joseph's Miltown and Kilmurry Ibrickane collide in Ennis to see who will be lift Jack Daly in 2019. A match that is way too close to call, I think that the men from Quilty might just have the last laugh on the basis that they have shown the slightly more consistent form throughout the championship campaign. Roll on 3 o'clock is all I'll say!!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    little sympthy for kilkee on one hand ,some of there club delegates should be ashamed of themselves tonight , this time 10 years ago they were in a county final now they are in junior A ,

    why ? they were first of all in there own heads too good to stay amalgamated with doonbeg
    they were then too good to join up with the peninsula clubs in underage until it was far far too late
    this year they refused to join up with the peninsula at senior as they were somehow to good for that also

    i wouldnt be putting much money on them making a quick return to intermediate either ,

    i d feel sorry for the likes of darren ownes and dylan russell as they are fine footballers and in another generation would have championship medals won with the club , the likes of barry harte christy kerwin michael keane all played today , most of them are well in there 40s they played in munster club finals against nemo rangers and the gaeltacht in the mid 2000s today must have been a hard day for them

    but the older heads in the club are the ones to blame for this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Gael85 wrote: »
    St Beckans win by a point. Clare TV had the incorrect score for second half.

    kildysart far the better team , breckans only managed one 2nd half score on the 30th minute they have some excellent individual players they will have to vastly improve for senior next year or they will be back down in a hurry

    kildysart had all the momentum with 10 minutes to go but couldn't convert , they also lost there heads a little when it came to decision making , but definitely the best team lost here , emmett mcmahon had an excellent game for them kicking 4 great scores , i imagine he will be a feature for colm collins next year

    scorers

    st breckans
    rowan dannagher 1-0
    padraic kelly 1-0
    aidan davidson 0-2
    joe mcgann 0-2

    kildysart
    emmett mcmahon 0-4
    diarmuid o'donnell 0-2
    keith o'connor 0-1
    luke mcgrath 0-1
    robert eyres 0-1


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Gael85


    Kildysart completely kicked that game away. Missed have missed 5/6 scoreable frees. Breckans fell apart in second half but Kildysart couldn't take advantage of. Malcom Byrne had a great first controlling the play at centre forward. McNeilus got on top of him in second half. Joe McGann was class and had a hand in both goals which was the difference. Emmet McMahon was brilliant throughout for Kildysart. Colm Collins needs to get McGann and McMahon on board next year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Gael85


    little sympthy for kilkee on one hand ,some of there club delegates should be ashamed of themselves tonight , this time 10 years ago they were in a county final now they are in junior A ,

    why ? they were first of all in there own heads too good to stay amalgamated with doonbeg
    they were then too good to join up with the peninsula clubs in underage until it was far far too late
    this year they refused to join up with the peninsula at senior as they were somehow to good for that also

    i wouldnt be putting much money on them making a quick return to intermediate either ,

    i d feel sorry for the likes of darren ownes and dylan russell as they are fine footballers and in another generation would have championship medals won with the club , the likes of barry harte christy kerwin michael keane all played today , most of them are well in there 40s they played in munster club finals against nemo rangers and the gaeltacht in the mid 2000s today must have been a hard day for them

    but the older heads in the club are the ones to blame for this

    Totally agree on Kilkee. Completely took their eye off the ball. Naomh Eoin and O'Currys done great work at juvenile level with a small pool of players. I remember someone saying 10 years when the Russell brothers and Michael O'Shea(RIP) retired Kilkee would struggle. They lost the Larkin brothers and Chris Williamson to emigration. Don't think many townies play for them, the best players always came from outskirts of town. Kilkee as a town never developed. No proper hotel or supermarket, no young initiative for young people to stay around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Gael85 wrote: »
    Kildysart completely kicked that game away. Missed have missed 5/6 scoreable frees. Breckans fell apart in second half but Kildysart couldn't take advantage of. Malcom Byrne had a great first controlling the play at centre forward. McNeilus got on top of him in second half. Joe McGann was class and had a hand in both goals which was the difference. Emmet McMahon was brilliant throughout for Kildysart. Colm Collins needs to get McGann and McMahon on board next year.

    loads of good forwards around , mcgann has always been excellent but commitments to breckans let alone clare have been tested in the past

    no doubt mcmahon will be on the panel he averaged about 0-5 points a game from play all championship

    derrick lynch has a piece in the program about the top 10 up and coming players of the football championship , most of these would not be out of place on the current senior panel ,

    Jayme o'sullivan Wolfe tones ( defender)
    Joe mcgann St Breckans (forward)
    oisin looney miltown (midfield)
    david lernihan kilmihil (midfield)
    nigel murray o'currys (forward)
    darran callinan kib (forward )
    Aaron Griffin lissycasey ( forward)
    sean conway doonbeg ( defender)
    cillian rouine ennistymon (defender)
    Emmet Mcmahon kildysart (forward)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Gael85 wrote: »
    Totally agree on Kilkee. Completely took their eye off the ball. Naomh Eoin and O'Currys done great work at juvenile level with a small pool of players. I remember someone saying 10 years when the Russell brothers and Michael O'Shea(RIP) retired Kilkee would struggle. They lost the Larkin brothers and Chris Williamson to emigration. Don't think many townies play for them, the best players always came from outskirts of town. Kilkee as a town never developed. No proper hotel or supermarket, no young initiative for young people to stay around.

    It actually goes hand in hand back there, a number of business got lazy in and around the recession and realised they didn't need to do much as the limerick weekenders would always arrive and that was enough for them

    They refused to pay a small free for example to mcd to host the cois farraige festival which was moved to bundoran as a result, lahinch capitalised on kilkee's failings and is booming since

    Ennistymon got to the County final last year as a result, 2 hotels closed in kilkee in the same time 2 opened in North clare and low and be hold many businesses people in kilkee that are holding the town to ransom like they did with MCD are the same people involved with the club


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Gael85


    loads of good forwards around , mcgann has always been excellent but commitments to breckans let alone clare have been tested in the past

    no doubt mcmahon will be on the panel he averaged about 0-5 points a game from play all championship

    derrick lynch has a piece in the program about the top 10 up and coming players of the football championship , most of these would not be out of place on the current senior panel ,

    Jayme o'sullivan Wolfe tones ( defender)
    Joe mcgann St Breckans (forward)
    oisin looney miltown (midfield)
    david lernihan kilmihil (midfield)
    nigel murray o'currys (forward)
    darran callinan kib (forward )
    Aaron Griffin lissycasey ( forward)
    sean conway doonbeg ( defender)
    cillian rouine ennistymon (defender)
    Emmet Mcmahon kildysart (forward)


    Stephen Tierney midfield for Breckans. Was he playing all year? Don't remember seeing his name on team sheets for previous games. He was very good wing back on Clare underage teams years ago.

    Clare need defenders pushing through. Gordon Kelly and Sean Collins have a lot of milage. Hopefully Aaron Fitz will be back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Gael85 wrote: »
    Stephen Tierney midfield for Breckans. Was he playing all year? Don't remember seeing his name on team sheets for previous games. He was very good wing back on Clare underage teams years ago.

    Clare need defenders pushing through. Gordon Kelly and Sean Collins have a lot of milage. Hopefully Aaron Fitz will be back.

    Sean Conway is very good if he comits, cian ó Mahoney from Doonbeg also, if Killian Blake from there is available and not travelling he should be looked at also

    Keep an eye on ciaran Morrissey tomorrow for Kilmurry Ibrickane, he probably has been the best defender in the championship so far, the last day out against Cratloe he held podge scoreless and chipped in with one at the other end, probably mid 20s now but playing great stuff


    Tierney is very good too but I think he was injured, could be wrong he could be another mcgann too, don't think mcgann played too much before today for Breckans


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Gael85


    Sean Conway is very good if he comits, cian ó Mahoney from Doonbeg also, if Killian Blake from there is available and not travelling he should be looked at also

    Keep an eye on ciaran Morrissey tomorrow for Kilmurry Ibrickane, he probably has been the best defender in the championship so far, the last day out against Cratloe he held podge scoreless and chipped in with one at the other end, probably mid 20s now but playing great stuff


    Tierney is very good too but I think he was injured, could be wrong he could be another mcgann too, don't think mcgann played too much before today for Breckans


    Do you have the team line outs for today game by any chance? Couldn't find anything on twitter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    intermediate teams sorry today were

    St Breckans: Tristan O’Callaghan; Daniel Carey, Evan Barrett, Cian Burke; Jack Sheedy, Alan Sweeney, Conor Burke; Dale Masterson, Stephen Tierney; Maccon Byrne, Padraig Kelly, Colm O’Brien; Rowan Danaher, Joe McGann, Aiden Davidson.

    Subs: Michael Hogan for Tierney (33), Ciaran Flanagan for Danaher (62).

    Kildysart: Robert Eyres; Brian Eyres, Kieran Leahy, John Ginnane Jnr; Rory McMahon, Shane McNelis, Ian Flanagan; Kieran O’Brien, Neil O’Connor; Mikey Donnellan, Keith O’Connor, Luke McGrath; Diarmuid O’Donnell, Emmet McMahon, Seamus Casey.

    Subs: Stephen Sheehan for Ginnane Jnr (35), Keith Murphy for Donnellan (35), Kieran Eyres for McGrath (54), Michael Eustace for Flanagan (56).

    Referee: Niall Quinn (St Josephs Miltown)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Gael85


    intermediate teams sorry today were

    St Breckans: Tristan O’Callaghan; Daniel Carey, Evan Barrett, Cian Burke; Jack Sheedy, Alan Sweeney, Conor Burke; Dale Masterson, Stephen Tierney; Maccon Byrne, Padraig Kelly, Colm O’Brien; Rowan Danaher, Joe McGann, Aiden Davidson.

    Subs: Michael Hogan for Tierney (33), Ciaran Flanagan for Danaher (62).

    Kildysart: Robert Eyres; Brian Eyres, Kieran Leahy, John Ginnane Jnr; Rory McMahon, Shane McNelis, Ian Flanagan; Kieran O’Brien, Neil O’Connor; Mikey Donnellan, Keith O’Connor, Luke McGrath; Diarmuid O’Donnell, Emmet McMahon, Seamus Casey.

    Subs: Stephen Sheehan for Ginnane Jnr (35), Keith Murphy for Donnellan (35), Kieran Eyres for McGrath (54), Michael Eustace for Flanagan (56).

    Referee: Niall Quinn (St Josephs Miltown)


    Thanks for that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭Dickie9


    A draw probably fair result in miltown v kib
    Miltown will prob be kicking themselves having not won it very poor 1st half by there standards put in a great display second half apart from seanie malone scoring a point for kib....Kieran malone put in super shift wi d 2 Cleary boys...last free on Graham kelly was soft an absolute joke....taught referee was very poor just wouldn't let the game flow constantly blowing up free after free....still another day out in the park...reckon its miltowns 2 lose


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40 AnClar14959713


    Just back home from a most interesting Clare senior football final, which included a first for me, who has watched GAA for over 22 years, an own point.

    The start was all about Quilty's pressure game and the manner in which they tore into the match early doors. Michael Hogan and Keelan Sexton along with the industrious Dermot Coughlan, began well and were well deserving 4 points to 1 ahead after 20 mins. However Coughlan took two nasty hits midway through the 1st half and came on in the 2nd half with a bandage all around his head and was never the same player since.

    However like all great champions do, Miltown hit back and 3 points in a row, including a Seanie Malone score in the last kick of the first half made it 4 points apiece at half-time, with Miltown set to have the aid of the elements for the 2nd 30 mins.

    The second half started well for Miltown, who increased their workrate considerably in the 2nd half. An early point gave them the early edge, before a bizarre incident led to Kilmurry's opening score in the 2nd half. What looked like a simple kickpass by Seanie Malone back to the goalkeeper Sean O'Brien, turned into a nightmare and incredibly, albeit under huge pressure by the Quilty men, Malone kicked the ball inexplicably over the bar, but in the wrong goal!!!!!

    The rest of the match itself was tit for tat. Points were traded between both teams. At 8 points apiece heading into the 3rd minute of injury time out of 5, Cormac Murray stood with a 45. The young Miltown man scuffed his kick, but like all good players do, Conor Cleary gathered the breaking ball and tapped over the bar, what appeared to be the winning score for the defending Jack Daly champions. However in typical Quilty's never say die attitude, they won a free with goalie Ian McInerney running from his goal. From just over 45 metres out, and the fate and the pressure all on the veteran Quilty netminder's shoulders, he absolutely nailed it. Straight between the posts and just soon afterwards, referee Chris Maguire, who had a competent game, blew the final whistle. A draw.

    Little between both teams throughout the 60 plus minutes. For KIB I felt that the evergreen Michael Hogan was immense. He was everywhere in the field and to me I was surprised that he was taken off quite early, as I felt he had plenty of more to give. Darragh Sexton and Daniel Walsh were outstanding, in particular Sexton with his attacking runs, a huge handful for Miltown. While I felt that Mark Killeen, also put in a huge shift for the Quilty men.

    For Miltown I felt that their best performers on the day included Seanie Malone and in general the defensive performances were far more impressive than their attacking players, who flattered to deceive. However that malaise in attack was more down to the outstanding displays in the green and red jerseys, who quite simply did not give the much vaunted Miltown forward line, not a sniff of space.

    So a replay is required to decide who will lift the Jack Daly for the final time this decade. Incredibly in the Clare FM pre-match show on Friday, two of the three guests they had, including Seamus Hayes, Joe Garry and former referee Rory Hickey said that it would end in honours even! Personally I can't call the replay. Both sides cancelled each other out, with tremendous displays in defense. If any of the forwards can click and in the case of Miltown, their forwards must deliver a far more composed performance in front of goal, if they are to come out on top next week. The case for both sides to come out victorious next week is compelling.

    Before all that though, all focus will be on next week and the updates regarding the vacant Clare senior hurling manager's role. Expect developments throughout the next 7 days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Dickie9 wrote: »
    A draw probably fair result in miltown v kib
    Miltown will prob be kicking themselves having not won it very poor 1st half by there standards put in a great display second half apart from seanie malone scoring a point for kib....Kieran malone put in super shift wi d 2 Cleary boys...last free on Graham kelly was soft an absolute joke....taught referee was very poor just wouldn't let the game flow constantly blowing up free after free....still another day out in the park...reckon its miltowns 2 lose

    from a neutral point of view i taught the ref did a pretty good job , it was a hard game to be in charge of to be fair especially with the rivalry and all that

    in terms of the game i would expect both teams to be a bit more open the next day , it took miltown nearly the entire first half to settle ,i fancied kilmurry before today i would expect miltown to improve the next day and see it out

    cant understand what horse moloney was doing leaving keith king on the field and he clearly injured from the start of the game


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Gael85


    from a neutral point of view i taught the ref did a pretty good job , it was a hard game to be in charge of to be fair especially with the rivalry and all that

    in terms of the game i would expect both teams to be a bit more open the next day , it took miltown nearly the entire first half to settle ,i fancied kilmurry before today i would expect miltown to improve the next day and see it out

    cant understand what horse moloney was doing leaving keith king on the field and he clearly injured from the start of the game

    Thought referee was very fussy. The equalising free was very soft. KIB will be happy to get another day with only scoring one point from play. Both teams played their best football against the wind. McGuane had a great game for Milltown. Kieran Malone stepped up in last 15 minutes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Treble double


    Anyone here explain why it cost 15 euro to get into the county hurling final and 20 euro to get into the county football final, why the extra 5 euro for the football


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Gael85 wrote: »
    Thought referee was very fussy. The equalising free was very soft. KIB will be happy to get another day with only scoring one point from play. Both teams played their best football against the wind. McGuane had a great game for Milltown. Kieran Malone stepped up in last 15 minutes.

    the defensive nature of the game made it a nightmare for the ref although the last free was one for the county board to forge the replay, miltown look the much better of the two , think they registered 12 wides and some of them very scorable

    also the attendance was announced as 5500 there must have been a big rush to the jacks when they were doing the head count :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 717 ✭✭✭caddy16


    Anyone here explain why it cost 15 euro to get into the county hurling final and 20 euro to get into the county football final, why the extra 5 euro for the football

    Hurling was 20. 15 oap/student


  • Registered Users Posts: 717 ✭✭✭caddy16


    Gael85 wrote: »
    Thought referee was very fussy. The equalising free was very soft. KIB will be happy to get another day with only scoring one point from play. Both teams played their best football against the wind. McGuane had a great game for Milltown. Kieran Malone stepped up in last 15 minutes.
    Soft is an understatement, it simply wasn't a free. If anything it should have gone the other way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Treble double


    Hurling was definitely 15 euro


  • Registered Users Posts: 717 ✭✭✭caddy16


    Hurling was definitely 15 euro

    It definitely wasn't


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,439 ✭✭✭Boots234


    the defensive nature of the game made it a nightmare for the ref although the last free was one for the county board to forge the replay, miltown look the much better of the two , think they registered 12 wides and some of them very scorable

    also the attendance was announced as 5500 there must have been a big rush to the jacks when they were doing the head count :rolleyes:

    Will the replay be on next Saturday or Sunday?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,412 ✭✭✭Road-Hog


    caddy16 wrote: »
    It definitely wasn't

    Hurling was defo €20.....next year it could be €40 due to Walsh park redevelopment....?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Boots234 wrote: »
    Will the replay be on next Saturday or Sunday?

    good question the board have 3 weeks until the munster club championship against the waterford champions rathgormack at home i believe ,

    if its next week i would imagine cusack park but with ballygunner playing sixmilebridge the same day i imagine it will either be next saturday or sunday week it will be announced tomorrow night ,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭fire_man


    Can't see it being played next Saturday so possibly two wks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Just to add to the list of footballers up and coming, I am sure Colm Collins has been made aware of the performances of young Mark McInerney

    Has a superb game for Eire Og today in the B final, was probably one of the townies best performers in there defeat to Doonbeg also

    He actually looks to have more going for him in terms of athletic ability then his father who was one of the best footballers ever to play for clare also both footed

    Ikem Ugweru would also be an excellent addition to the panel. Very powerful lad great ball carrying ability gets stuck in alot but has a good nature temperament I say that as he reminds me a lot like Graham Kelly who let's just say had the opposite mentality

    Well done to Eire Og in the B final, probably a little disappointed that its not a jack Daly, it was looking like it was on the cards up to the Doonbeg defeat

    Fitting ye should win on the day of the faughs jubilee, it would have been a huge thing for us to win given we spent the best part of a decade in intermediate, anyone who calls the B championship a Mickey mouse competition wasn't in the park for the first game today it will act as a stepping stone for the townies next year nó doubt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭fire_man


    I still think the Senior B is a Mickey mouse competition. Eire og could not beat an average Doonbeg team when it mattered.They have a good bit to go yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    fire_man wrote: »
    I still think the Senior B is a Mickey mouse competition. Eire og could not beat an average Doonbeg team when it mattered.They have a good bit to go yet.

    Both teams didn't stop training after getting eliminated in the 1/4 finals, the game today was probably the best of the 3 matches over the weekend, it was the best chance we had of winning anything this year

    Also both teams are young and will act as a stepping stone to the townies, I am sure Clooney/Quinn supporters would disagree with you also after winning the hurling

    Funny enough the average doonbeg team won it last year and used it as a stepping stone this year and rattled the county champions before there exit

    It definitely is a good competition for teams to use as a spring board


  • Registered Users Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Treble double


    Jaysus some amount of names being bandied about here for inclusion in the Clare Football squad a lot of the names mentioned aren't even regulars with their clubs, laughable really, it takes more than a bit of flashy fleeting football to make a county man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Jaysus some amount of names being bandied about here for inclusion in the Clare Football squad a lot of the names mentioned aren't even regulars with their clubs, laughable really, it takes more than a bit of flashy fleeting football to make a county man.

    This is Clare football you are talking about, at the moment one of our wing backs is a mayo hurler and is only on the panel because he is the managers nephew, you have to take a lot of the football talk with a pinch of salt we are a weaker County boxing above our weight as it is

    We do have some exceptionally talented individuals, one of them played excellent today in keelan sexton we don't have enough of them so we have to try and build a team around such players

    Not sure though what players we have mentioned are struggling to make there clubs though


  • Registered Users Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Treble double


    This is Clare football you are talking about, at the moment one of our wing backs is a mayo hurler and is only on the panel because he is the managers nephew, you have to take a lot of the football talk with a pinch of salt we are a weaker County boxing above our weight as it is

    We do have some exceptionally talented individuals, one of them played excellent today in keelan sexton we don't have enough of them so we have to try and build a team around such players

    Not sure though what players we have mentioned are struggling to make there clubs though

    Killian Blake was mentioned didn't feature for Doonbeg at all this year was a sub, maybe mixed up with Joe Blake, who is the wrong age profile now for playing county
    Mark McInerney didn't start for Eire Og in any championship game prior to the b competition
    Anyway it's fellas that have the discipline and desire to commit to inter county that will be brought in, it's a way of life now almost full time commitment, u have alot of handy club footballers who haven't got the required character for that.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Didn't Mark McInerney play soccer for Limerick this season? His sister is playing for Munster in rugby as well, serious sporting family.


  • Registered Users Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Treble double


    All I'm saying is it's a waste of time listing off names of lads that would make the county unless there is knowledge that they have the desire and discipline to commit to the county,
    I see it on here with the hurling, loads of names being put forward, u would be forgiven for thinking we had intercounty hurlers coming out our ears. I was at the bridge, inagh kilnamona semi final and was shocked at how much the current inter county players on both sides stood out from the rest. David Fitzgerald, the McCarthy's, Jamie Shanahan, Cathal Malone were at a different level hurling and conditioning wise to the rest which would be depressing for county selectors


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    You aren't going to discover intercounty hurlers or footballers in October, which is why I think that the club championships should be played off in the summer, if intercounty players are worried about getting injured or don't want to play so be it, it's tough for clubs with lots of county players but the way things are going for our intercounty players is if you weren't a good minor player you aren't going to be looked at for senior.


  • Registered Users Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Treble double


    Clareman wrote: »
    You aren't going to discover intercounty hurlers or footballers in October, which is why I think that the club championships should be played off in the summer, if intercounty players are worried about getting injured or don't want to play so be it, it's tough for clubs with lots of county players but the way things are going for our intercounty players is if you weren't a good minor player you aren't going to be looked at for senior.

    Ya I would agree with that, with development squads now if you aren't on the radar around minor u could miss the boat.

    It's a pity because u have fellas that develop later and become real robust tough players because they have had to fight for everything up along and sometimes they are lost to inter county, Im not sure are development squads the answer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Killian Blake was mentioned didn't feature for Doonbeg at all this year was a sub, maybe mixed up with Joe Blake, who is the wrong age profile now for playing county
    Mark McInerney didn't start for Eire Og in any championship game prior to the b competition
    Anyway it's fellas that have the discipline and desire to commit to inter county that will be brought in, it's a way of life now almost full time commitment, u have alot of handy club footballers who haven't got the required character for that.

    Every one of them players we mentioned are probably better then some of the current panelists,

    There are a number of players that made there adult debut at intercounty before club since Collins took over

    In regards hurling, tipperary and kilkenny flood there panel with fringe players in the league every year to see if they offer anything, we seem to just pick the same 15 for munster league, national league or championship,

    Your never going to know what you have until you try out these guys


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Having fellas playing during the summer will allow you get a sense of who's going well and who isn't, intercounty hurlers are being shielded away from club hurling way too much in my opinion, ffs there's a real chance that the Clare football championship won't be over until November and the intercounty team were out of the championship in July, now a replay in the final doesn't help but surely there could be a few games played in May and June


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40 AnClar14959713


    Clareman wrote: »
    Didn't Mark McInerney play soccer for Limerick this season? His sister is playing for Munster in rugby as well, serious sporting family.

    Mark McInerney is a very talented player. It was interesting however that he didn't make himself available for selection for the Clare Under-20 panel this year, (mainly due to Seamus Clancy's poor management of the team). He is still eligible for U-20 in both 2020 and 2021 though. He was brilliant for the Clare minors in 2018 along with Shane Meehan. He can kick with both feet which is a huge asset going forward.

    Yesterday I would not read too much into Mark's or any of the other Eire Og or Kilmihil's players performances yesterday in the B final, as the game was played at a very pedestrian pace, and there was a huge amount of space inside, which you would not get in a proper full-blown knockout championship match.

    I hope that Mark commits to the U-20's at least in the new year, with Michael Neylon, who is a very shrewd operator and coach, in charge of the side for 2020 replacing Clancy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭funnyname


    What was so bad about Clancy, he had previously been minor manager so they must have seen something in him.

    Wrt u20, it's a bit of a nothing grade now given teams could be training for 3 to 4 months and get knocked after one game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,877 ✭✭✭Pogue eile


    funnyname wrote: »
    What was so bad about Clancy, he had previously been minor manager so they must have seen something in him.

    Wrt u20, it's a bit of a nothing grade now given teams could be training for 3 to 4 months and get knocked after one game.

    It's already being compromised by the removal of intercouinty senior players.

    I'm pretty confident that the hierarchy would prefer to dispense with inteercounty u-20, its pretty much superflous with the % of players playing 3rd Level competitions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40 AnClar14959713


    funnyname wrote: »
    What was so bad about Clancy, he had previously been minor manager so they must have seen something in him.

    Wrt u20, it's a bit of a nothing grade now given teams could be training for 3 to 4 months and get knocked after one game.

    Many of our top young players who were eligible for U20 selection, including Emmet McMahon, Mark McInerney, Padraig Kelly, Chibby Okoye to name but a few. All those lads just did not commit in 2019.

    Clancy was probably just about as bad as you can get as a manager. A great player, he most certainly is, but was also a very poor manager. His club managerial record with his own club Corofin was woeful and while we did reach the Munster minor final in 2017, we defeated Limerick, Waterford and a Tipperary team who were without many of their best players due to the Liam Cahill's reticence to allowing dual players in his minor hurling squad.

    Those three teams we defeated in 2017 were very poor and even if Clare had no manager we would still have qualified for the Munster final, in which two things stood out against Kerry. We scored 3 points throughout the 60 mins, and conceded 2-21 in the other end.

    This year the Seamus Clancy managed Clare U20's took on Waterford in the 1st round of the Munster U20 Football Championship on July 2nd. A Deise side that only got together 4 weeks previously. Incredibly despite this clear disadvantage of the lack of preparation, it was Waterford that came out on top.

    Unbelivably Clancy wanted to stay on for a third year in the role. But in the one of the very very few good things that our "esteemed" county board ever did, Michael Neylon was brought in and I expect a very competitive Clare U20 football team in 2020 under the Miltown Malbay clubman's guidance.

    I might seem harsh, but those that have worked under Clancy have said the same that I have mentioned in the above. Great player, but certainly not managerial material.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Killian Blake was mentioned didn't feature for Doonbeg at all this year was a sub, maybe mixed up with Joe Blake, who is the wrong age profile now for playing county

    Not to be dragging on, I was on about Killian, he was previously involved with the clare panel but left due to work commitments in London, a tidy corner back I hear he will be around next year so I would have him as a back up option


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