Fontaines DC - Lyric repetition

fourmations · 24-05-2019 2:41pm #1

hi

is it just me or is this annoying anyone else...
Its a great album but the amount of repeating lyrics in the songs
is a big problem for me, I really like his lyrics so its really
disappointing that he does so much repeating
its really lazy in my eyes when he can clearly write
interesting stories

Roys tune is the same verse sung exactly the same twice and thats it!
Lots of repetition in most other songs too

cheers

HattrickNZ · 18-06-2019 3:57am

Hi fourmations, I had similar thoughts but then I just got over it...
Sometimes I find myself to they should do it my way, or please me. how about they just do what works for them and then if I like it i like it...

Though I do think that if it is laziness then its a pity but it kindof makes or adds to the song in its own way.
I guess it depends on the intentions.

Grain(sp) also gave a n interview were he says something like - the more you repeat a word the more it loses its meaning - the example he gave was lamp lamp ...

Thought that was an interesting take, but I find his interviews pretty refreshing to a point.

Tombo2001 · 30-07-2019 8:51am

Its a common enough thing in pop and to be honest it works. Personally, I've never listened to a song because of its message, more because of its 'feel' - and that repetitive lyric contributes to this.

Morrissey and the Smiths would be a particular example, and no one had ever said his lyrics are repetitive.

I am the son
And the heir
Of a shyness that is criminally vulgar
I am the son and heir
Of nothing in particular

You shut your mouth
How can you say
I go about things the wrong way?
I am human and I need to be loved
Just like everybody else does

I am the son
And the heir
Of a shyness that is criminally vulgar
I am the son and heir
Of nothing in particular

You shut your mouth
How can you say
I go about things the wrong way?
I am human and I need to be loved
Just like everybody else does

Anesthetize · 30-07-2019 7:11pm

A lot of artists repeat lyrics in order to hammer home a point or a message. Idles definitely do this as well. I wouldn't call it laziness.

Max Headroom · 19-09-2019 9:01pm

Performing on the Mercury prize shortly....

sasta le · 19-09-2019 9:03pm

They seem to be gone huge

Max Headroom · 19-09-2019 9:21pm

They deserve it.....

4068ac1elhodqr · 19-09-2019 9:24pm

They're interesting, but they're not Idles or Little Simz.

Max Headroom · 19-09-2019 9:52pm

Priscilla Skinny Grocer wrote: »

They're interesting, but they're not Idles or Little Simz.

Thank fcuk.....

Good performance....Ian Curtis would be proud...:)

phelixoflaherty · 19-09-2019 9:58pm

https://youtu.be/Fj1lpr5Ypvw

Max Headroom · 20-09-2019 7:56am

Ah well.....at least they tried.....never had a chance imo....:o

Useful.Idiot · 24-09-2019 4:04pm

Wouldn't have said Fontaines repeat lyrics moreso than any other popular music act really?

Also would rate them way more than Idles, who are massively overrated IMO.

S.M.B. · 24-09-2019 5:58pm

Ah the do in fairness but I like it as a stylistic choice. I don't think they were just lazy and forgot to write a few extra verses before going into the recording studio.

Granadino · 02-10-2019 1:46pm

Priscilla Skinny Grocer wrote: »

They're interesting, but they're not Idles or Little Simz.

For some reason I get the whiff of a gimmick off Idles.

Arghus · 02-10-2019 2:48pm

Granadino wrote: »

For some reason I get the whiff of a gimmick off Idles.

I used to think Idles were great, but the more you listen to them the more boring they get.

Always Be Closing · 07-10-2019 7:30pm

Awful name

Landfill indie

The new Kodaline/Coronas/Blizzards (delete as appropriate)

Rothko · 07-10-2019 11:26pm

Always Be Closing wrote: »

Awful name

Landfill indie

The new Kodaline/Coronas/Blizzards (delete as appropriate)

The only connection I see between them and the bands you've mentioned is that they're Irish.

Granadino · 08-10-2019 10:50pm

I wouldn't sat they're landfill indie, but, as with all music, the hype machine is too much sometimes. The edgy post punk stuff has been done already. (see Murder Capital , Idles etc). The Walkmen, Wire etc did it...

Ash.J.Williams · 01-08-2020 10:51am

Enjoyed the new album and feel honoured they covered killing jokes “aeon” and called it televised mind

Always Be Closing · 01-08-2020 4:02pm

They need a stylist

Or they need to sack their stylist

gourcuff · 05-08-2020 2:51pm

maybe mayos finest ever band?

Always Be Closing · 06-08-2020 11:30am

gourcuff wrote: »

maybe mayos finest ever band?

They have two members from Mayo?

Ash.J.Williams · 06-08-2020 1:36pm

Always Be Closing wrote: »

They have two members from Mayo?

2 from Mayo 1 from Dublin and a tan with a dub accent:)

Ash.J.Williams · 06-08-2020 1:39pm

Always Be Closing wrote: »

Awful name

Landfill indie

The new Kodaline/Coronas/Blizzards (delete as appropriate)

Jaysus Christ that’s a horrific comparison

Always Be Closing · 06-08-2020 1:50pm

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Jaysus Christ that’s a horrific comparison

Is it though?

You have Kodaline who for all intents and purposes a boyband aiming themselves at a teen demographic, The Coronas with their middle class, Terenure by way of California sensibilities creating music for people who don't like music, the f*ckwhattery of The Blizzards and their primma donna front man being a bastardized mix of Busted and some early noughties Power Punk landfill by way of Mullingar singing about GP visits and their mams catching them w*nking

Then there's the Fontaines - sings like Christy Dignam, play the salt o'the earth Dub card, but their lyrical neuroses are that of glorified art students.

The common denominator in all 4 is there's no authenticity

BoardsMember · 06-08-2020 3:52pm

And the winner for one of the most conceited, arrogant, obnoxious and superior posts of all time goes to.....

Always Be Closing wrote: »

Is it though?

You have Kodaline who for all intents and purposes a boyband aiming themselves at a teen demographic, The Coronas with their middle class, Terenure by way of California sensibilities creating music for people who don't like music, the f*ckwhattery of The Blizzards and their primma donna front man being a bastardized mix of Busted and some early noughties Power Punk landfill by way of Mullingar singing about GP visits and their mams catching them w*nking

Then there's the Fontaines - sings like Christy Dignam, play the salt o'the earth Dub card, but their lyrical neuroses are that of glorified art students.

The common denominator in all 4 is there's no authenticity

And you're looking for authenticity, but you're determining that people who like a certain band do so because they don't actually like music? How does that work. "I like Coronas". "Eh, you don't like music if you like Coronas". What a load of bollix.

You sound like someone who could bore people to tears pontificating about music, with the sole purpose of demonstrating how cool your music taste, and how much more you know about "cool" music than others do. The fact is that genuinely cool people are authentic, and considerably more secure in themselves than you come across.

Always Be Closing · 06-08-2020 4:24pm

BoardsMember wrote: »

And the winner for one of the most conceited, arrogant, obnoxious and superior posts of all time goes to.....

And you're looking for authenticity, but you're determining that people who like a certain band do so because they don't actually like music? How does that work. "I like Coronas". "Eh, you don't like music if you like Coronas". What a load of bollix.

You sound like someone who could bore people to tears pontificating about music, with the sole purpose of demonstrating how cool your music taste, and how much more you know about "cool" music than others do. The fact is that genuinely cool people are authentic, and considerably more secure in themselves than you come across.

We'll just both agree that I'm right, there's a good lad

Rothko · 06-08-2020 7:33pm

Always Be Closing wrote: »

Is it though?

You have Kodaline who for all intents and purposes a boyband aiming themselves at a teen demographic, The Coronas with their middle class, Terenure by way of California sensibilities creating music for people who don't like music, the f*ckwhattery of The Blizzards and their primma donna front man being a bastardized mix of Busted and some early noughties Power Punk landfill by way of Mullingar singing about GP visits and their mams catching them w*nking

Then there's the Fontaines - sings like Christy Dignam, play the salt o'the earth Dub card, but their lyrical neuroses are that of glorified art students.

The common denominator in all 4 is there's no authenticity

Who do you consider to be "authentic"?

sasta le · 07-08-2020 12:44am

Are they being pushed as a working band

Joffrey · 05-09-2020 10:50am

They are getting covered as working class, you don't go to BIMM if you are working class. The singer was born in England, does an over the top to the point of a piss take Dublin accent and not called on it. The music's incredibly easy to write, here is my take on it

Always Be Closing · 06-09-2020 3:10pm

Joffrey wrote: »

They are getting covered as working class, you don't go to BIMM if you are working class. The singer was born in England, does an over the top to the point of a piss take Dublin accent and not called on it. The music's incredibly easy to write, here is my take on it

Amazing

Joffrey · 07-09-2020 12:31pm

Haha cheers

IamtheWalrus · 07-09-2020 12:34pm

I think I heard them say in an interview they enjoyed poetry with repetition or something like that.

IamtheWalrus · 07-09-2020 12:59pm

Joffrey wrote: »

Haha cheers

I enjoyed your video but art doesn’t need to be complex. I’m not saying you think it it needs to be, just making the point. At least the write about what they know. The media hype up bands, not the bands themselves. I haven’t listened to the first album but I was actually impressed by the instrumentation of the second record. A long time musician friend said to me ‘it’s a good record but nothing any of us couldn’t do’. Ye wha??

Granadino · 08-09-2020 3:04pm

Joffrey wrote: »

They are getting covered as working class, you don't go to BIMM if you are working class. The singer was born in England, does an over the top to the point of a piss take Dublin accent and not called on it. The music's incredibly easy to write, here is my take on it

No working class go to BIMM? He was born in England, but he grew up here didn't he? So it's very possible he'd have "a" Dublin accent, not necessarily the one he is using to sing. Saw an interview with him recently at his house, and he sounds Irish.
The music's incredibly easy to write? So was Oasis' music, but they managed to write songs that were hits. (and I'm not a fan).
My reply would be if it's so easy, where is your album?
Funny vid by the way. I wouldn't be a fan of these lads or the Murder Capital etc, but best of luck to them. It's a tough game.

hetuzozaho · 08-09-2020 3:11pm

Granadino wrote: »

My reply would be if it's so easy, where is your album?

This is one I guess: https://strangerswithguns.bandcamp.com/album/degenerate-art

Sounds good so far!

Granadino · 08-09-2020 4:40pm

hetuzozaho wrote: »

This is one I guess: https://strangerswithguns.bandcamp.com/album/degenerate-art

Sounds good so far!

haha, Touché. Thanks for the link. Sounds like a cross between Soundgarden and Corrosion of Conformity. But some other lad could say your riffs are easy to write too. There's always some bollix out there :pac:
I'd take Stranger With Guns over The Fontaines DC

How did you get that big guitar sound? Plugins? Room recording?

Joffrey · 11-09-2020 9:26am

Granadino wrote: »

No working class go to BIMM? He was born in England, but he grew up here didn't he? So it's very possible he'd have "a" Dublin accent, not necessarily the one he is using to sing. Saw an interview with him recently at his house, and he sounds Irish.
The music's incredibly easy to write? So was Oasis' music, but they managed to write songs that were hits. (and I'm not a fan).
My reply would be if it's so easy, where is your album?
Funny vid by the way. I wouldn't be a fan of these lads or the Murder Capital etc, but best of luck to them. It's a tough game.

Here is my album haha

https://open.spotify.com/album/1fgfzH5tXDlvWYaBUQgrJj?si=CE2io2_zS1-xNyLBAyp5fw

I do think its music anyone could do, there is definitely not impressive musicianship on their stuff. There isnt on my stuff either, but just want to address that point.

I feel anyone could do their music, it is very very formulaic. But it is selling out.

I dont think working class people can afford the 6 grand a year im told BIMM is. I know if I had of asked for it to go to play guitar for 3yrs..... not a hope, luxury afforded to peoples families who have money I think. Im sure their are exceptions

Joffrey · 11-09-2020 9:28am

Oh only seen the other messages after I responded to that.

Ah they guy in Blanchardstown Michael Richards who records the stuff. Although I had to rebook to change the guitar sound.

Cheers for checking it out.

Ash.J.Williams · 11-09-2020 11:15am

Joffrey wrote: »

Here is my album haha

https://open.spotify.com/album/1fgfzH5tXDlvWYaBUQgrJj?si=CE2io2_zS1-xNyLBAyp5fw

I do think its music anyone could do, there is definitely not impressive musicianship on their stuff. There isnt on my stuff either, but just want to address that point.

I feel anyone could do their music, it is very very formulaic. But it is selling out.

I dont think working class people can afford the 6 grand a year im told BIMM is. I know if I had of asked for it to go to play guitar for 3yrs..... not a hope, luxury afforded to peoples families who have money I think. Im sure their are exceptions

big difference between kurt cobain and ynwei malmsteen

Always Be Closing · 11-09-2020 11:17am

What is their actual polemic?

Is it breaking out of a middle class suburban nightmare? Is it a pining for the rare oul times where they can sit around with Patrick Kavanagh and Brendan Behan drinking pints and lamenting the futility of it all? I just don't know

Ash.J.Williams · 11-09-2020 11:20am

Always Be Closing wrote: »

What is their actual polemic?

Is it breaking out of a middle class suburban nightmare? Is it a pining for the rare oul times where they can sit around with Patrick Kavanagh and Brendan Behan drinking pints and lamenting the futility of it all? I just don't know

listen to the ****ing thing if you like it you like it

bleeding polemic....

Always Be Closing · 11-09-2020 9:01pm

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

listen to the ****ing thing if you like it you like it

bleeding polemic....

Nope

All the greats, to a man, have a polemic

Rothko · 14-09-2020 1:04pm

Always Be Closing wrote: »

Nope

All the greats, to a man, have a polemic

No, they don't.

trashcan · 21-09-2020 11:46pm

BoardsMember wrote: »

And the winner for one of the most conceited, arrogant, obnoxious and superior posts of all time goes to.....

Ah, I dunno, it gave me a good chuckle :cool:n wouldn't disagree with most of it either, but then I'm a music snob

.

I'm also old enough to have been around for some of the great bands, from the laten70's onwards. Maybe it's my age, but I haven't heard a band from the new generation who could hold a candle to the bands I listened to, and still do. Squeeze, The Jam, Buzzcocks, the Blades, Elvis Costello, XTC, Undertones, The Smiths, Prefab Sprout, Lloyd Cole, R.E.M., Stars of Heaven, The Chills, Teenage Fanclub, Trashcan Sinatras, Crowded House.

gourcuff · 11-12-2020 4:44pm

Always Be Closing wrote: »

What is their actual polemic?

Is it breaking out of a middle class suburban nightmare? Is it a pining for the rare oul times where they can sit around with Patrick Kavanagh and Brendan Behan drinking pints and lamenting the futility of it all? I just don't know

there are no suburbs in mayo - its about the famine

Max Headroom · 14-12-2020 6:36pm

Live chat and session from 6 with Lamo on 6 music if anyone's interested....;)

Joffrey · 01-01-2021 10:57am

The Oscar nomination.. their manager has done the equivalent of taking a non league team to the champions league final

NIMAN · 01-01-2021 10:59am

Anesthetize wrote: »

A lot of artists repeat lyrics in order to hammer home a point or a message.

Think you're being too kind to a lot of acts.

I think songs repeat the lyrics to make the song last 3min 30sec instead of 1min 30sec.

Joffrey · 01-01-2021 11:02am

Lyric repetition can work used sparingly, it is quite lazy most of the time or lack of imagination. Or playing it safe.

The most popular music of the moment seems to be milking it for all its worth.

eoinf · 16-01-2021 11:05pm

Without sounding like I'm repeating what others have already posted.

You should check out Caribou - Sun.

Such interesting lyrics.

Fontaines DC - Lyric repetition

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