Fontaines DC - Lyric repetition

fourmations

hi

is it just me or is this annoying anyone else...
Its a great album but the amount of repeating lyrics in the songs
is a big problem for me, I really like his lyrics so its really
disappointing that he does so much repeating
its really lazy in my eyes when he can clearly write
interesting stories

Roys tune is the same verse sung exactly the same twice and thats it!
Lots of repetition in most other songs too

cheers

HattrickNZ

Hi fourmations, I had similar thoughts but then I just got over it...
Sometimes I find myself to they should do it my way, or please me. how about they just do what works for them and then if I like it i like it...

Though I do think that if it is laziness then its a pity but it kindof makes or adds to the song in its own way.
I guess it depends on the intentions.

Grain(sp) also gave a n interview were he says something like - the more you repeat a word the more it loses its meaning - the example he gave was lamp lamp ...

Thought that was an interesting take, but I find his interviews pretty refreshing to a point.

Tombo2001

Its a common enough thing in pop and to be honest it works. Personally, I've never listened to a song because of its message, more because of its 'feel' - and that repetitive lyric contributes to this.

Morrissey and the Smiths would be a particular example, and no one had ever said his lyrics are repetitive.

I am the son
And the heir
Of a shyness that is criminally vulgar
I am the son and heir
Of nothing in particular

You shut your mouth
How can you say
I go about things the wrong way?
I am human and I need to be loved
Just like everybody else does

I am the son
And the heir
Of a shyness that is criminally vulgar
I am the son and heir
Of nothing in particular

You shut your mouth
How can you say
I go about things the wrong way?
I am human and I need to be loved
Just like everybody else does

Anesthetize

A lot of artists repeat lyrics in order to hammer home a point or a message. Idles definitely do this as well. I wouldn't call it laziness.

Max Headroom

Performing on the Mercury prize shortly....

sasta le

They seem to be gone huge

Max Headroom

They deserve it.....

4068ac1elhodqr

They're interesting, but they're not Idles or Little Simz.

Max Headroom

Priscilla Skinny Grocer wrote: »

They're interesting, but they're not Idles or Little Simz.

Thank fcuk.....

Good performance....Ian Curtis would be proud...:)

phelixoflaherty

https://youtu.be/Fj1lpr5Ypvw

Max Headroom

Ah well.....at least they tried.....never had a chance imo....:o

Useful.Idiot

Wouldn't have said Fontaines repeat lyrics moreso than any other popular music act really?

Also would rate them way more than Idles, who are massively overrated IMO.

S.M.B.

Ah the do in fairness but I like it as a stylistic choice. I don't think they were just lazy and forgot to write a few extra verses before going into the recording studio.

Granadino

Priscilla Skinny Grocer wrote: »

They're interesting, but they're not Idles or Little Simz.

For some reason I get the whiff of a gimmick off Idles.

Arghus

Granadino wrote: »

For some reason I get the whiff of a gimmick off Idles.

I used to think Idles were great, but the more you listen to them the more boring they get.

Always Be Closing

Awful name

Landfill indie

The new Kodaline/Coronas/Blizzards (delete as appropriate)

Rothko

Always Be Closing wrote: »

Awful name

Landfill indie

The new Kodaline/Coronas/Blizzards (delete as appropriate)

The only connection I see between them and the bands you've mentioned is that they're Irish.

Granadino

I wouldn't sat they're landfill indie, but, as with all music, the hype machine is too much sometimes. The edgy post punk stuff has been done already. (see Murder Capital , Idles etc). The Walkmen, Wire etc did it...

Ash.J.Williams

Enjoyed the new album and feel honoured they covered killing jokes “aeon” and called it televised mind

Always Be Closing

They need a stylist

Or they need to sack their stylist

gourcuff

maybe mayos finest ever band?

Always Be Closing

gourcuff wrote: »

maybe mayos finest ever band?

They have two members from Mayo?

Ash.J.Williams

Always Be Closing wrote: »

They have two members from Mayo?

2 from Mayo 1 from Dublin and a tan with a dub accent:)

Ash.J.Williams

Always Be Closing wrote: »

Awful name

Landfill indie

The new Kodaline/Coronas/Blizzards (delete as appropriate)

Jaysus Christ that’s a horrific comparison

Always Be Closing

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Jaysus Christ that’s a horrific comparison

Is it though?

You have Kodaline who for all intents and purposes a boyband aiming themselves at a teen demographic, The Coronas with their middle class, Terenure by way of California sensibilities creating music for people who don't like music, the f*ckwhattery of The Blizzards and their primma donna front man being a bastardized mix of Busted and some early noughties Power Punk landfill by way of Mullingar singing about GP visits and their mams catching them w*nking

Then there's the Fontaines - sings like Christy Dignam, play the salt o'the earth Dub card, but their lyrical neuroses are that of glorified art students.

The common denominator in all 4 is there's no authenticity

BoardsMember

And the winner for one of the most conceited, arrogant, obnoxious and superior posts of all time goes to.....

Always Be Closing wrote: »

Is it though?

You have Kodaline who for all intents and purposes a boyband aiming themselves at a teen demographic, The Coronas with their middle class, Terenure by way of California sensibilities creating music for people who don't like music, the f*ckwhattery of The Blizzards and their primma donna front man being a bastardized mix of Busted and some early noughties Power Punk landfill by way of Mullingar singing about GP visits and their mams catching them w*nking

Then there's the Fontaines - sings like Christy Dignam, play the salt o'the earth Dub card, but their lyrical neuroses are that of glorified art students.

The common denominator in all 4 is there's no authenticity

And you're looking for authenticity, but you're determining that people who like a certain band do so because they don't actually like music? How does that work. "I like Coronas". "Eh, you don't like music if you like Coronas". What a load of bollix.

You sound like someone who could bore people to tears pontificating about music, with the sole purpose of demonstrating how cool your music taste, and how much more you know about "cool" music than others do. The fact is that genuinely cool people are authentic, and considerably more secure in themselves than you come across.

Always Be Closing

BoardsMember wrote: »

And the winner for one of the most conceited, arrogant, obnoxious and superior posts of all time goes to.....



And you're looking for authenticity, but you're determining that people who like a certain band do so because they don't actually like music? How does that work. "I like Coronas". "Eh, you don't like music if you like Coronas". What a load of bollix.

You sound like someone who could bore people to tears pontificating about music, with the sole purpose of demonstrating how cool your music taste, and how much more you know about "cool" music than others do. The fact is that genuinely cool people are authentic, and considerably more secure in themselves than you come across.

We'll just both agree that I'm right, there's a good lad

Rothko

Always Be Closing wrote: »

Is it though?

You have Kodaline who for all intents and purposes a boyband aiming themselves at a teen demographic, The Coronas with their middle class, Terenure by way of California sensibilities creating music for people who don't like music, the f*ckwhattery of The Blizzards and their primma donna front man being a bastardized mix of Busted and some early noughties Power Punk landfill by way of Mullingar singing about GP visits and their mams catching them w*nking

Then there's the Fontaines - sings like Christy Dignam, play the salt o'the earth Dub card, but their lyrical neuroses are that of glorified art students.

The common denominator in all 4 is there's no authenticity

Who do you consider to be "authentic"?

sasta le

Are they being pushed as a working band

Joffrey

They are getting covered as working class, you don't go to BIMM if you are working class. The singer was born in England, does an over the top to the point of a piss take Dublin accent and not called on it. The music's incredibly easy to write, here is my take on it

Always Be Closing

Joffrey wrote: »

They are getting covered as working class, you don't go to BIMM if you are working class. The singer was born in England, does an over the top to the point of a piss take Dublin accent and not called on it. The music's incredibly easy to write, here is my take on it

Amazing

Joffrey

Haha cheers

IamtheWalrus

I think I heard them say in an interview they enjoyed poetry with repetition or something like that.

IamtheWalrus

Joffrey wrote: »

Haha cheers

I enjoyed your video but art doesn’t need to be complex. I’m not saying you think it it needs to be, just making the point. At least the write about what they know. The media hype up bands, not the bands themselves. I haven’t listened to the first album but I was actually impressed by the instrumentation of the second record. A long time musician friend said to me ‘it’s a good record but nothing any of us couldn’t do’. Ye wha??

Granadino

Joffrey wrote: »

They are getting covered as working class, you don't go to BIMM if you are working class. The singer was born in England, does an over the top to the point of a piss take Dublin accent and not called on it. The music's incredibly easy to write, here is my take on it

No working class go to BIMM? He was born in England, but he grew up here didn't he? So it's very possible he'd have "a" Dublin accent, not necessarily the one he is using to sing. Saw an interview with him recently at his house, and he sounds Irish.
The music's incredibly easy to write? So was Oasis' music, but they managed to write songs that were hits. (and I'm not a fan).
My reply would be if it's so easy, where is your album?
Funny vid by the way. I wouldn't be a fan of these lads or the Murder Capital etc, but best of luck to them. It's a tough game.

hetuzozaho

Granadino wrote: »

My reply would be if it's so easy, where is your album?

This is one I guess: https://strangerswithguns.bandcamp.com/album/degenerate-art

Sounds good so far!

Granadino

hetuzozaho wrote: »

This is one I guess: https://strangerswithguns.bandcamp.com/album/degenerate-art

Sounds good so far!

haha, Touché. Thanks for the link. Sounds like a cross between Soundgarden and Corrosion of Conformity. But some other lad could say your riffs are easy to write too. There's always some bollix out there :pac:
I'd take Stranger With Guns over The Fontaines DC
How did you get that big guitar sound? Plugins? Room recording?

Joffrey

Granadino wrote: »

No working class go to BIMM? He was born in England, but he grew up here didn't he? So it's very possible he'd have "a" Dublin accent, not necessarily the one he is using to sing. Saw an interview with him recently at his house, and he sounds Irish.
The music's incredibly easy to write? So was Oasis' music, but they managed to write songs that were hits. (and I'm not a fan).
My reply would be if it's so easy, where is your album?
Funny vid by the way. I wouldn't be a fan of these lads or the Murder Capital etc, but best of luck to them. It's a tough game.

Here is my album haha


https://open.spotify.com/album/1fgfzH5tXDlvWYaBUQgrJj?si=CE2io2_zS1-xNyLBAyp5fw


I do think its music anyone could do, there is definitely not impressive musicianship on their stuff. There isnt on my stuff either, but just want to address that point.

I feel anyone could do their music, it is very very formulaic. But it is selling out.

I dont think working class people can afford the 6 grand a year im told BIMM is. I know if I had of asked for it to go to play guitar for 3yrs..... not a hope, luxury afforded to peoples families who have money I think. Im sure their are exceptions

Joffrey

Oh only seen the other messages after I responded to that.

Ah they guy in Blanchardstown Michael Richards who records the stuff. Although I had to rebook to change the guitar sound.

Cheers for checking it out.

Ash.J.Williams

Joffrey wrote: »

Here is my album haha


https://open.spotify.com/album/1fgfzH5tXDlvWYaBUQgrJj?si=CE2io2_zS1-xNyLBAyp5fw


I do think its music anyone could do, there is definitely not impressive musicianship on their stuff. There isnt on my stuff either, but just want to address that point.

I feel anyone could do their music, it is very very formulaic. But it is selling out.

I dont think working class people can afford the 6 grand a year im told BIMM is. I know if I had of asked for it to go to play guitar for 3yrs..... not a hope, luxury afforded to peoples families who have money I think. Im sure their are exceptions

big difference between kurt cobain and ynwei malmsteen

Always Be Closing

What is their actual polemic?

Is it breaking out of a middle class suburban nightmare? Is it a pining for the rare oul times where they can sit around with Patrick Kavanagh and Brendan Behan drinking pints and lamenting the futility of it all? I just don't know

Ash.J.Williams

Always Be Closing wrote: »

What is their actual polemic?

Is it breaking out of a middle class suburban nightmare? Is it a pining for the rare oul times where they can sit around with Patrick Kavanagh and Brendan Behan drinking pints and lamenting the futility of it all? I just don't know

listen to the ****ing thing if you like it you like it


bleeding polemic....

Always Be Closing

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

listen to the ****ing thing if you like it you like it


bleeding polemic....

Nope

All the greats, to a man, have a polemic

Rothko

Always Be Closing wrote: »

Nope

All the greats, to a man, have a polemic

No, they don't.

trashcan

BoardsMember wrote: »

And the winner for one of the most conceited, arrogant, obnoxious and superior posts of all time goes to.....

Ah, I dunno, it gave me a good chuckle :cool:n wouldn't disagree with most of it either, but then I'm a music snob .

I'm also old enough to have been around for some of the great bands, from the laten70's onwards. Maybe it's my age, but I haven't heard a band from the new generation who could hold a candle to the bands I listened to, and still do. Squeeze, The Jam, Buzzcocks, the Blades, Elvis Costello, XTC, Undertones, The Smiths, Prefab Sprout, Lloyd Cole, R.E.M., Stars of Heaven, The Chills, Teenage Fanclub, Trashcan Sinatras, Crowded House.

gourcuff

Always Be Closing wrote: »

What is their actual polemic?

Is it breaking out of a middle class suburban nightmare? Is it a pining for the rare oul times where they can sit around with Patrick Kavanagh and Brendan Behan drinking pints and lamenting the futility of it all? I just don't know

there are no suburbs in mayo - its about the famine

Max Headroom

Live chat and session from 6 with Lamo on 6 music if anyone's interested....;)

Joffrey

The Oscar nomination.. their manager has done the equivalent of taking a non league team to the champions league final

NIMAN

Anesthetize wrote: »

A lot of artists repeat lyrics in order to hammer home a point or a message.

Think you're being too kind to a lot of acts.

I think songs repeat the lyrics to make the song last 3min 30sec instead of 1min 30sec.

Joffrey

Lyric repetition can work used sparingly, it is quite lazy most of the time or lack of imagination. Or playing it safe.

The most popular music of the moment seems to be milking it for all its worth.

eoinf

Without sounding like I'm repeating what others have already posted.

You should check out Caribou - Sun.

Such interesting lyrics.