Room to Improve.

PARlance · 06-10-2019 11:39PM

Calhoun wrote: »

They seem like a couple who unless forced into a change would not have been open to it.

I would also say that the original design and view he had in mind changed as they kept pushing the design.

They did change it (only slightly in the end iirc) and that wouldn't have been easy for DB but I still can't figure out why he didn't present the new roof/stunning bedroom plus the additional 12k cost, from the very first plan.

It's as if he just decided it would cost too much and didn't even explore the possibility.

Very good point above in relation to this as well. It was almost irresponsible to assume a 100 year old roof would be fine.

Calhoun · 06-10-2019 11:42PM

PARlance wrote: »

They did change it (only slightly in the end iirc) and that wouldn't have been easy for DB but I still can't figure out why he didn't present the new roof/stunning bedroom plus the additional 12k cost, from the very first plan.

It's as if he just decided it would cost too much and didn't even explore the possibility.

Very good point above in relation to this as well. It was almost irresponsible to assume a 100 year old roof would be fine.

Had they not been forced into it would they have been open to it and would it have fit with his vision.

We cannot read his mind, I got from it the main thing they wanted was the office and garage originally then pushed back on everything else.

The pilot seems afraid of spending anything unless he has to.

HeidiHeidi · 06-10-2019 11:43PM

That couple (esp him) slightly gave me the creeps. I wouldn't have lasted a week on that job, the builder deserves a sainthood.

Lovely job in the end, but after all the fuss about the deck/plinth and the aesthetic being right for the house and the area - then they go and put up cheap picket fencing on the sides? That just looked crap. I wasn't a fan of those slats in the city house (made the sitting room look like a dark cell) but they would have been absolutely right for that house/site.

I'm guessing they never got their gold-plated shed in the end. What sort of madness was that, ffs? As someone said earlier, the QS wouldn't have plucked 120K out of her arse, that obviously reflected the spec he requested.

I'm also guessing they were left with a building site for a garden, as all the finished product shots were carefully of the house and the view and nothing in between.

Terrible episode all round, far too rushed and badly edited.

And wonder of wonders, Dermot managed to come out of it looking like the sane and sensible one.

Calhoun · 06-10-2019 11:44PM

It's kinda like they thought going on the program they would get stuff for cheaper.

the_pen_turner · 06-10-2019 11:45PM

the same thing happend last year or the year before. 'suddenly' the roof is discovered to be in a shocking state. its not the builders fault. they price what they are asked to price. its dermots fault or who ever he gets to take the details of the old house.
an attic is ver easy to get into in most cases so a roof is very easy to inspect and see if its sound or not. you can understand foundation issues and stuff covered up causeing huge problems but not taking the time to look into the attci is crazy

siblers · 06-10-2019 11:48PM

Calhoun wrote: »

He must be a **** pilot as he has no money and obviously didn't make much in his career.

Like if you want to build something and cannot afford it , though **** you don't get it.

I don't think the QS would lie or make up figures, it all comes down the the spec wanted.

He owns a 600k house. I'd say he's doing alright with his career

siblers · 06-10-2019 11:50PM

I wonder how much did the floor painting **** up cost them?

ShamoBuc · 06-10-2019 11:51PM

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Terrible episode all round, far too rushed and badly edited.

Not a terrible episode but it could have been better. I agree about the editing. Lot of talk re the shed but it wasnt conclusively dealt with either way, which is poor form.
The Actual building of it seemed rushed also.

Calhoun · 06-10-2019 11:53PM

siblers wrote: »

He owns a 600k house. I'd say he's doing alright with his career

Is that what its worth or what he paid for it? Seems to have paid 300k at the bottom of the market in 2012 without seeing it.

Ballsy purchase for someone who seems as tight as a ducks arse.

Rockbeast2 · 06-10-2019 11:53PM

Yeah, I accept some "dramatic tension" for TV purposes, but I refuse to accept that roof wasn't known about previously.

Was it that it couldn't be touched to insert(or move) new joists?

PARlance · 06-10-2019 11:53PM

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

I'm also guessing they were left with a building site for a garden, as all the finished product shots were carefully of the house and the view and nothing in between.

There was footage looking down on the property. Garden had been cleared, levelled (split-level) and seeded/ready for seeding.

PARlance · 06-10-2019 11:55PM

siblers wrote: »

I wonder how much did the floor painting **** up cost them?

They mentioned that it was sanded off iirc.

Calhoun · 06-10-2019 11:55PM

PARlance wrote: »

There was footage looking down on the property. Garden had been cleared, levelled (split-level) and seeded/ready for seeding.

That looked really nice, also looks like they got the wall and gate done.

Paranoid Mandroid · 06-10-2019 11:58PM

A Feng Shui consultant..... If I read two articles on the subject, I could could pass as a Feng Shui consultant. Ridiculous. The "energy" in the room. What do farts do to Feng Shui?

Calhoun · 07-10-2019 12:00AM

She must be doing well enough as she needed an office for it, or was that for him.

ted1 · 07-10-2019 12:02AM

Calhoun wrote: »

Is that what its worth or what he paid for it? Seems to have paid 300k at the bottom of the market in 2012 without seeing it.

Ballsy purchase for someone who seems as tight as a ducks arse.

I wouldn’t sat tight, just likes to see value for money. Why pay more when you can get it cheaper.

recipio · 07-10-2019 12:03AM

100 to 120 K to renovate a shed.:eek: I know its Ireland but that is extracting the urine.

ted1 · 07-10-2019 12:04AM

harr wrote: »

It was more of a granny flat he was looking for full plumbing, wired and insulated and I presume he wanted it two storey with the intention of a bedroom, games room or office with a workshop on ground floor.

I was thinking an AirBnB...

Calhoun · 07-10-2019 12:08AM

ted1 wrote: »

I wouldn’t sat tight, just likes to see value for money. Why pay more when you can get it cheaper.

Value for money is one thing but when you have very rigid wants they have to be paid for.

I personally don't think the QS has any reason to inflate prices.

seannash · 07-10-2019 12:08AM

I'm not sure why people are annoyed by them returning to planning. They originally wanted the bedroom there but were told to raise the roof would be cost prohibitive. Then when they had to replace the roof anyway they thought that they might as well go back to their original wish.
I'd like to think everyone would do the same.
One thing you should be questioning and tight about is the budget on building a house.
His way about doing it might have been the wrong approach but its the right idea.

seannash · 07-10-2019 12:09AM

Calhoun wrote: »

Value for money is one thing but when you have very rigid wants they have to be paid for.

I personally don't think the QS has any reason to inflate prices.

I reckon she did just to put it out of his head and get the job finished.

Calhoun · 07-10-2019 12:12AM

seannash wrote: »

I'm not sure why people are annoyed by them returning to planning. They originally wanted the bedroom there but were told to raise the roof would be cost prohibitive. Then when they had to replace the roof anyway they thought that they might as well go back to their original wish.
I'd like to think everyone would do the same.
One thing you should be questioning and tight about is the budget on building a house.
His way about doing it might have been the wrong approach but its the right idea.

Of course you want to keep an eye on your budget when your building a house but his attitude came across like he wanted something for nothing.

seannash wrote: »

I reckon she did just to put it out of his head and get the job finished.

I don't think she would put her reputation at risk just so the job could be finished. Sure didn't they end up spending much longer at it anyway because of the roof?

Goes without saying how much of a success a program is we are discussing costs of housing lol.

seannash · 07-10-2019 12:22AM

Calhoun wrote: »

I don't think she would put her reputation at risk just so the job could be finished. Sure didn't they end up spending much longer at it anyway because of the roof?

Goes without saying how much of a success a program is we are discussing costs of housing lol.

It kept showing an existing shed whenever they talked about it so im not sure if it was a retrofit of that shed or a new structure.
Either way i honestly think it was a crazy estimate. She should gave said we can get a basic version of what you want for x.
Especially when the whole build was for 290k.

Calhoun · 07-10-2019 12:27AM

seannash wrote: »

It kept showing an existing shed whenever they talked about it so im not sure if it was a retrofit of that shed or a new structure.
Either way i honestly think it was a crazy estimate. She should gave said we can get a basic version of what you want for x.
Especially when the whole build was for 290k.

That would have been ideal but then we wouldnt be here discussing it at nearly half 12:).

The sly bastards know what they are doing.

Still regardless of all i have said the house is beautiful and Tramore is probably one of my favorite places in Ireland. They got something really special there.

ShamoBuc · 07-10-2019 12:31AM

seannash wrote: »

It kept showing an existing shed whenever they talked about it so im not sure if it was a retrofit of that shed or a new structure.
Either way i honestly think it was a crazy estimate. She should gave said we can get a basic version of what you want for x.
Especially when the whole build was for 290k.

Pretty sure it was a new structure as it was 2 storey. A basic one she said could be done for 80k I think she said. I presume that would still have included in that , a newly dug out foundation, groundwork, plumbing, electricity, blockwork, flooring roofing etc.

They were saying shed, but it wasnt a garden shed he wanted, it was a little independant house really. I wish they gave a more concrete closure on that though.

enricoh · 07-10-2019 09:33AM

Calhoun wrote: »

He must be a **** pilot as he has no money and obviously didn't make much in his career.

Like if you want to build something and cannot afford it , though **** you don't get it.

I don't think the QS would lie or make up figures, it all comes down the the spec wanted.

Jesus, u gotta love the internet, s**t pilot n s**t career - eh ok.
I thought this couple got the best bang for buck of any I've seen in a long time. They didnt have a magic money tree like most the others did

LirW · 07-10-2019 10:31AM

enricoh wrote: »

Jesus, u gotta love the internet, s**t pilot n s**t career - eh ok.
I thought this couple got the best bang for buck of any I've seen in a long time. They didnt have a magic money tree like most the others did

What they got as a build was indeed pretty decent value for money.
Doesn't change the fact that they paid 320k at the bottom of the market for what turned out to be a narrow Seaview site in Tramore because from the house wasn't much left beside the 4 walls because it was in such a state. And they didn't even go and had a look at it prior to buying. I genuinely can't wrap my head around that.

nc6000 · 07-10-2019 10:49AM

LirW wrote: »

And they didn't even go and had a look at it prior to buying. I genuinely can't wrap my head around that.

How do you know that?

freshpopcorn · 07-10-2019 10:52AM

nc6000 wrote: »

How do you know that?

I think she said she didn't see it. However he knew the house well.

enricoh · 07-10-2019 11:30AM

LirW wrote: »

What they got as a build was indeed pretty decent value for money.
Doesn't change the fact that they paid 320k at the bottom of the market for what turned out to be a narrow Seaview site in Tramore because from the house wasn't much left beside the 4 walls because it was in such a state. And they didn't even go and had a look at it prior to buying. I genuinely can't wrap my head around that.

Location, location, location. Someone posted earlier that they were ripped off n could have got a 2 bed apartment in waterford city for 50k in 2012! Of course they could coz no one wanted them!
He was working abroad.
He knew the area well, bought for location, slummed it for a few years and when he got the dough together built a fantastic house.
Fair play to them.

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