Room to Improve.

um7y1h83ge06nx · 06-10-2019 10:36PM

Genuinely, without this thread I don't think I'd bother watching this show. On it's own it would be boring.

Never change lads, never change!

meeeeh · 06-10-2019 10:36PM

I like the dark green/gray wall paint. It might work in our kitchen. View is stunning.

Purple Mountain · 06-10-2019 10:37PM

I agree with her on the slats.
It would look too Scandinavian but the fence didn't give them enough privacy so don't know what the compromise should be.
The tennis courts ruin the site for me.

klose · 06-10-2019 10:38PM

I wonder did your man research any actual costs for what he was looking for? He was miles off the mark each time.

griffinlee · 06-10-2019 10:39PM

I see Dermot is being Co sued for another build, was in the Times today

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/room-to-improve-star-dermot-bannon-sued-over-home-defects-bw3knk69x

naughto · 06-10-2019 10:45PM

griffinlee wrote: »

I see Dermot is being Co sued for another build, was in the Times today

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/room-to-improve-star-dermot-bannon-sued-over-home-defects-bw3knk69x

It’s behind a pay wall

siblers · 06-10-2019 10:45PM

How in the **** was the shed coming in at 120k? Was that including wood work/metal equipment? Seems crazy

I assume they can just walk onto the roof from the bedroom?

griffinlee · 06-10-2019 10:46PM

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Any details on that as I can't view it.

ROOM TO IMPROVE: Series 5, Programme 4

LirW · 06-10-2019 10:46PM

griffinlee wrote: »

I see Dermot is being Co sued for another build, was in the Times today

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/room-to-improve-star-dermot-bannon-sued-over-home-defects-bw3knk69x

Paywall, what's it about exactly?

LirW · 06-10-2019 10:47PM

siblers wrote: »

How in the **** was the shed coming in at 120k? Was that including wood work/metal equipment? Seems crazy

I assume they can just walk onto the roof from the bedroom?

He basically wanted another small house, double stories, fully kitted out.

AndrewJRenko · 06-10-2019 10:49PM

Once again, a very predictable issue - roof in 100 year old house not up to scratch - comes as a complete surprise to Dermot. He really should have planned for that outcome from the start, regardless of what they said about cost savings. It would have been much better for the builder, and would have saved money in the long run by not having to go for planning twice.

freshpopcorn · 06-10-2019 10:50PM

This is the episode!(RTE Player is nightmare tough)

https://www.rte.ie/player/series/room-to-improve/SI0000001450?epguid=IP000055376

Muahahaha · 06-10-2019 10:52PM

LirW wrote: »

But why? She said they bought it blind too. The views trade off for a lot and the end result is really nice but basically paying 320k for a narrow Seaview site in Tramore is sore.

Yeah I thought the same, they bought it in 2012 so right at the bottom of the house price crash. Not a direct comparison but a mate bought a modern 2 bed apartment in Waterford city centre in 2012 for €45,000 so €320k for that seemed excessive.

siblers wrote: »

How in the **** was the shed coming in at 120k? Was that including wood work/metal equipment? Seems crazy

I assume they can just walk onto the roof from the bedroom?

What he was calling a 'shed' was really another house, he wanted it 2 storey, wired and plumbed. And he wanted it done for €30k, totally unrealistic

AndrewJRenko · 06-10-2019 10:54PM

donkeykong5 wrote: »

That house in rathfarnhm is an eyesore.

Is that the one in Landscape in Churchtown?

PARlance · 06-10-2019 11:10PM

klose wrote: »

I wonder did your man research any actual costs for what he was looking for? He was miles off the mark each time.

I think he did a fairly good job at managing Dermot/the costs. Seemed to be a bit of a ploy to push down the costs at times.

Big question for me is, if the re-roofing / changing the bedroom only cost an extra 12k, then why didn't Dermot / QS explore that option at the start? It would have saved the builder a lot of grief.

Despite expecting a second house for 30k and all the fengwhatevery... I didn't mind the couple at all. She was as mad as a bag of cats, and she knows it, but I warmed to her after she performed the exorcism on the concrete. He was fairly chilled with a dry sense of humour, I thought.

ShamoBuc · 06-10-2019 11:13PM

PARlance wrote: »

Big question for me is, if the re-roofing / changing the bedroom only cost an extra 12k, then why didn't Dermot / QS explore that option at the start? It would have saved the builder a lot of grief.

I presume because thay went with what they had planning for.

seannash · 06-10-2019 11:14PM

Not exactly a loveable couple but he was dead right to low ball everything and challenge the budget. In the end they got what they wanted at a decent price.

120k for the high spec shed was insane by the QS
Interior was okay, no warmth to it to be honest. Great view though.

harr · 06-10-2019 11:17PM

ShamoBuc wrote: »

I presume because thay went with what they had planning for.

Yep the planing permission had be resubmitted with the new layout that why the builder had to **** off for a few months. The couple even seemed shocked they had to get planing for a lot of stuff.

Calhoun · 06-10-2019 11:17PM

He must be a **** pilot as he has no money and obviously didn't make much in his career.

Like if you want to build something and cannot afford it , though **** you don't get it.

I don't think the QS would lie or make up figures, it all comes down the the spec wanted.

AndrewJRenko · 06-10-2019 11:18PM

ShamoBuc wrote: »

I presume because thay went with what they had planning for.

So why did they go for planning with a design that relied on a 100 year old roof being sound?

Sharp MZ700 · 06-10-2019 11:19PM

Wonder how many walked away from that job happy.

Calhoun · 06-10-2019 11:20PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

So why did they go for planning with a design that relied on a 100 year old roof being sound?

I would assume for the same reason they couldn't make the boys room bigger. They couldn't afford it.

I would say he built it on a best chance that it be ok because without forcing it to have to be fixed I'd say the couple wouldn't.

seannash · 06-10-2019 11:21PM

Calhoun wrote: »

He must be a **** pilot as he has no money and obviously didn't make much in his career.

Like if you want to build something and cannot afford it , though **** you don't get it.

I don't think the QS would lie or make up figures, it all comes down the the spec wanted.

I think he showed that the figures they were throwing out weren't realistic. They got what they wanted for a reasonable price.
I'm pretty sure if the couple last week built that house it would have been closer to 400k

PARlance · 06-10-2019 11:24PM

ShamoBuc wrote: »

I presume because thay went with what they had planning for.

Hence the "at the start" part, i.e before planning.

The enforced change (new roof and stunning bedroom) only cost 12k. My point was, why didn't Dermot and the QS explore the cost before planning. Dermot said it had been due to budget but I don't think they really costed it out while preparing the plans... because for 12k, it was a no brainer.

Calhoun · 06-10-2019 11:26PM

seannash wrote: »

I think he showed that the figures they were throwing out weren't realistic. They got what they wanted for a reasonable price.
I'm pretty sure if the couple last week built that house it would have been closer to 400k

Well I don't know what the original designs look like but I don't think a professional QS or architect/ building team are going to over inflate the budget on national television.

If they knew it all why engage with an architect. Especially when you have very specific ideology on how the build should go based upon Japanese principles.

harr · 06-10-2019 11:26PM

seannash wrote: »

Not exactly a loveable couple but he was dead right to low ball everything and challenge the budget. In the end they got what they wanted at a decent price.

120k for the high spec shed was insane by the QS
Interior was okay, no warmth to it to be honest. Great view though.

It was more of a granny flat he was looking for full plumbing, wired and insulated and I presume he wanted it two storey with the intention of a bedroom, games room or office with a workshop on ground floor.

Rockbeast2 · 06-10-2019 11:29PM

I could imagine your one spinning the kids around on the floor as they try to build their Lego sets on Christmas morning: "No, you must face this way to build it!" :-)

Calhoun · 06-10-2019 11:32PM

PARlance wrote: »

Hence the "at the start" part, i.e before planning.

The enforced change (new roof and stunning bedroom) only cost 12k. My point was, why didn't Dermot and the QS explore the cost before planning. Dermot said it had been due to budget but I don't think they really costed it out while preparing the plans... because for 12k, it was a no brainer.

They seem like a couple who unless forced into a change would not have been open to it.

I would also say that the original design and view he had in mind changed as they kept pushing the design.

adam88 · 06-10-2019 11:34PM

He was well able to find the money for the bits and pieces extra. Prob worked in the Middle East for years getting big bucks tax free

ShamoBuc · 06-10-2019 11:35PM

PARlance wrote: »

Hence the "at the start" part, i.e before planning.

The enforced change (new roof and stunning bedroom) only cost 12k. My point was, why didn't Dermot and the QS explore the cost before planning. Dermot said it had been due to budget but I don't think they really costed it out while preparing the plans... because for 12k, it was a no brainer.

12k was a no brainer. They didnt know the roof had to be done though. That only came up during the build. I would gave thought that the original planning would have had the main bedroom up there with the view, seems like common sense.

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