Has Pay TV ruined everything?

Tony EH · 03-10-2019 08:50AM

In some ways yes and in other ways no.

I think the standard of TV shows have risen considerably, compared to the 70's, 80's and 90's. Seriously, people need to go back and look at the TV shows that they used to think were great. Often times their not as good as we "remember" them.

However, a lot of modern TV shows are pretty poor too, and are often just fillers or "holding pattern" TV as someone on here called it once.

But, what I hate is this habit of "exclusive" TV shows to a new "channel". Show X is only on Blah Channel and Show Y is only Blah blah Channel, meaning you've got to dish out the readies for separate "stations" if you want to see the latest show everyone says is great.

This is only going to get worse as new "stations" see to outdo Netflix. In a few years, it'll cost a small fortune just to have the "stations" or "channels" that are showing that one show you want to see.

Of course, there are always other ways to get stuff, if you really want to see that show that everyone is talking about. But, I reckon that in the next few years that avenue will become harder and harder to do, as big companies continue to crack down on those type of "free" providers.

twowheelsonly · 03-10-2019 09:03AM

sugarman wrote: »

But 4k 50"+ is the norm these days.

Relatively popular but 'The Norm' ??? Definitely not.

In answer to the OP, I'd agree that it's ruined sports for a lot of people but I'd also think that at some stage it's going to come crashing down for both the TV companies and the likes of the EPL.

03-10-2019 09:09AM

twowheelsonly wrote: »

Relatively popular but 'The Norm' ??? Definitely not.

In answer to the OP, I'd agree that it's ruined sports for a lot of people but I'd also think that at some stage it's going to come crashing down for both the TV companies and the likes of the EPL.

Already the price paid for EPL rights has gone down in the last sale.
And one set of rights took a long time to sell.

You also see that Sky have split their channels in the UK, you can now just get Sky Football if you wish.
They have come to the conclusion that people are not as willing to pay for the stuff they have no im with the op on this one.

I'm not a huge fan of soccer but on a night like last night I would have sat down and watched Liverpool because it was Liverpool had it been on, but I had no interest in watching Napoli v Genk, which was the VM free offering, two teams I know nothing about.

JohnnyFlash · 03-10-2019 09:14AM

I’m loaded, and refuse to pay for Sky TV. Absolutely shocking waste of money. A seemingly endless list of channels showing reruns of the Chase, Top Gear, and the Great British Bake-off. 100 quid a month if you want all the sports channels. Bollocks to that.

Steve F · 03-10-2019 09:39AM

Allinall wrote: »

That’s great value.

Even if you were to watch three matches a week, that’s €5 per match. About the price of a pint for two hours entertainment.

And that’s not including all the other channels you get.

^^^ Sky employee?
That's nearly word for word what I was told on the phone last time they rang me trying to sell me more packages

Ohmeha · 03-10-2019 09:53AM

I've dumped Sky, Virgin and even now IPTV over recent years to save money, down the line if I get a decent wage bump I may return to Sky

There are completely free websites out there where you can stream decent quality football and F1 via Chromecast to your TV

I'm happy enough at the moment with my Freesat box, cheap Turkish Netflix subscription and only really paying any decent money towards an unlimited NFL subscription

Wanderer78 · 03-10-2019 09:59AM

One More Toy wrote:

Fcuk $ky and Virgin and eir

Rob it back from them, plenty of methods out there

fryup · 03-10-2019 10:01AM

is this age of FTA telly don't see the need for pay TV, unless you're big into cross channel football

Allinall · 03-10-2019 10:02AM

Steve F wrote: »

^^^ Sky employee?
That's nearly word for word what I was told on the phone last time they rang me trying to sell me more packages

I've been accused of being a lot of things over the years, but that's a first!

Reasonably happy customer. have switched to Virgin once or twice to avail of offers, but their service it shoite, so back to Sky I go.

Love most sports, so for me it's great value.

namloc1980 · 03-10-2019 10:29AM

Pay TV like Sky is scandalously expensive. FTA and Saorview supplemented with Netflix, free eir sports app for Champs League and Gamepass for NFL. Cheap and covers everything I want.

weldoninhio · 03-10-2019 10:36AM

fryup wrote: »

is this age of FTA telly don't see the need for pay TV, unless you're big into cross channel football

What if you are into non cross channel football?? You need pay tv (Eir) to watch that.

BalcombeSt4 · 03-10-2019 11:02AM

"The only reason they have not monopolized the daylight and the air is that it is not possible to do it. If it were possible to construct huge gasometers and to draw together and compress within them the whole of the atmosphere, it would have been done long ago, and we should have been compelled to work for them in order to get money to buy air to breathe. And if that seemingly impossible thing were accomplished tomorrow, you would see thousands of people dying for want of air - or of the money to buy it..."

normanoffside · 03-10-2019 11:07AM

One More Toy wrote: »

That's bullshít, 30 for basic package and 30 more for sport

If you tell Sky you are cancelling because it’s too dear, they offer an immediate 40% discount (after you are off the phone cancelling)

I’ve heard if you hold out to the end of the month notice period they eventually offer 60%+ discount to keep you but I have never gotten that far, I always take the 40%

heffo500 · 03-10-2019 11:08AM

Hopefully DAZN will change things...

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/may/14/streaming-service-dazn-netflix-sport-us-boxing-eddie-hearn

grogi · 03-10-2019 11:10AM

One More Toy wrote: »

I'd rather much be watching Liverpool play right now but instead I'm watching masterfúcking chef. Never see f1 any more, was a fanatic when it was free to watch on BBC and ITV.

Fcuk $ky and Virgin and eir

Fcuk sports on TV. I hate it and refuse for public TV pay the license fees with money from taxes and TV license.

Free TV should be for news, arts/high culture and education TV for kids. Stuff that doesn't sell, but is important. Liverpool game? Pay for it if you want.

Feisar · 03-10-2019 11:15AM

grogi wrote: »

Fcuk sports on TV. I hate it and refuse for public TV pay the license fees with money from taxes and TV license.

Free TV should be for news, arts/high culture and education TV for kids. Stuff that doesn't sell, but is important. Liverpool game? Pay for it if you want.

See the arts/culture are entertainment, same as football.

fryup · 03-10-2019 01:07PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

What if you are into non cross channel football?? You need pay tv (Eir) to watch that.

plenty of non-cross channel football on FTA, portuguese, spanish and USA leagues featured

riclad · 03-10-2019 01:52PM

Thats how capitalism works, sport gets most of its, income by selling tv right,s ,and merch .Say you are a liverpool fan just go to the pub when theres, a match on . At least you can still watch gaa on rte and tg 4 .
the problem is if certain sports are just on pay tv, in 10 years time
the no of fans of a certain sport will decrease .
Young people without pay tv will never see the sport on tv .
If a sport is not on tv it may as well not exist .
The standard of tv drama is much higher than it was 10 years ago.
Companys like amazon and netflix are spending billions on making new
programs to attract customers .
There may be free sports channels on free to air satellite ,like eurosport.

http://en.satexpat.com/tv/uk/fta/

weldoninhio · 04-10-2019 09:33AM

fryup wrote: »

plenty of non-cross channel football on FTA, portuguese, spanish and USA leagues featured

I meant IRISH football.

fryup · 04-10-2019 09:47AM

sure doesn't RTE cover irish football, LoI

weldoninhio · 04-10-2019 02:52PM

fryup wrote: »

sure doesn't RTE cover irish football, LoI

No. Eir show them even though RTE are the LOI's broadcasting partners. I think RTE have shown 3 games so far this season, and 2 of them were cup from memory.

Bobblehats · 04-10-2019 04:25PM

fryup wrote: »

plenty of non-cross channel football on FTA, portuguese, spanish and USA leagues featured

FTA indeed I watched a Peruvian league match the other week, they were in the middle of the atacama with just a couple of small stands set up you could see the Andes in the background and what looked like mining vehicles parked up all around

Quality stream and yeah the football wasn’t bad either but there really is a world of football out there if you look beyond the subscription channels.

04-10-2019 04:30PM

Bobblehats wrote: »

FTA indeed I watched a Peruvian league match the other week, they were in the middle of the atacama with just a couple of small stands set up you could see the Andes in the background and what looked like mining vehicles parked up all around

Quality stream and yeah the football wasn’t bad either but there really is a world of football out there if you look beyond the subscription channels.

How many people have an interest in watching random teams in random unknown leagues playing though. They want to watch mostly the premier league and possibly bits of the other big leagues around Europe.

Bobblehats · 04-10-2019 04:34PM

Well I don’t mean to come off all football hipster but it’s nice to be able to break out of the confines of the same stadiums once in a while and get a bit of sightseeing in. Whatever tickles your footballing fancy my friend

el_gaucho · 04-10-2019 05:32PM

What FTA service do you use?

Also, what IPTV service do people use?

Bobblehats · 04-10-2019 05:51PM

el_gaucho wrote: »

What FTA service do you use?

Also, what IPTV service do people use?

I’ll just bookmark an ace source for streams and cast to tv. Am sure those boys out in the desert would appreciate that viewing figures were up

04-10-2019 08:07PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

I meant IRISH football.

Well you are in luck tonight.

There is League of Ireland on RTE 2 and Irish League on BBC 2.

BalcombeSt4 · 06-10-2019 01:45AM

riclad wrote: »

Thats how capitalism works, sport gets most of its, income by selling tv right,s ,and merch .Say you are a liverpool fan just go to the pub when theres, a match on . At least you can still watch gaa on rte and tg 4 .
the problem is if certain sports are just on pay tv, in 10 years time
the no of fans of a certain sport will decrease .
Young people without pay tv will never see the sport on tv .
If a sport is not on tv it may as well not exist .
The standard of tv drama is much higher than it was 10 years ago.
Companys like amazon and netflix are spending billions on making new
programs to attract customers .
There may be free sports channels on free to air satellite ,like eurosport.

http://en.satexpat.com/tv/uk/fta/

There's a good sports channel on the Sky Satellite (Astra 28E) called "Free Sports", it shows at least one La Liga match & one Serie A match a week and also has weekly highlight shows of all games in each of the those two leagues. For example tonight it showed the AC Milan vs Genoa match.

I got Sky Sports years ago around the late 90's, one of the biggest plus's for me was they showed every Barca & Real match from La Liga & the Copa Del Rey, but last season they lost the rights to La Liga matches, and also lost some big Premier League games as well to BT. So now if you want to see all these matches you have to get Sky Sports, BT & Setanta. That's just taking the piss out of people, not a wonder so many people are buying "Black Boxes", don't blame them.

Has Pay TV ruined everything?

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