Has Pay TV ruined everything?

One More Toy

I'd rather much be watching Liverpool play right now but instead I'm watching masterfúcking chef. Never see f1 any more, was a fanatic when it was free to watch on BBC and ITV.

Fcuk $ky and Virgin and eir

a very cool kid

If you like so much just pay for it...you can get all the sports channels for 30 quid a month - you'd spend twice that down the pub watching one match....

Allinall

Just pay for it.

Why should you be able to watch it for free?

super_furry

But the thing is, before pay TV came along, there was very little football on TV. It's why the FA Cup was such a big deal.

lleti

a very cool kid wrote: »

If you like so much just pay for it...you can get all the sports channels for 30 quid a month - you'd spend twice that down the pub watching one match....

That's just untrue. Sky is probably 40ish a month for skysports, you gotta pay for BT for CL

Allinall

By the way... it’s 3-1 to Liverpool.

Cracking match.

UrbanFret

£8 a year for whats left on astra 28.2e. Bt sport Both racing channels and a few others.

NIMAN

I have iptv, costs 25 a year.

And I still rarely watch stuff. Maybe a handful of EPL games per season, and don't worry about CL until the knockouts in March.

Don't think I will ever pay for sky or other providers. Simply don't care enough about football any more to justify the outlay.

Montage of Feck

The World Athletics championship is free on BBC right now. Proper athletes not your ridicously overpayed <<fools>> who play soccerball.:cool:

One More Toy

a very cool kid wrote: »

If you like so much just pay for it...you can get all the sports channels for 30 quid a month - you'd spend twice that down the pub watching one match....

That's bullshít, 30 for basic package and 30 more for sport

Allinall

One More Toy wrote: »

That's bullshít, 30 for basic package and 30 more for sport

That’s great value.

Even if you were to watch three matches a week, that’s €5 per match. About the price of a pint for two hours entertainment.

And that’s not including all the other channels you get.

NIMAN

Montage of Feck wrote: »

The World Athletics championship is free on BBC right now. Proper athletes not your ridicously overpayed <<fools>> who play soccerball.:cool:

You're joking, right?

Proper athletes.......doped to the eyeballs.

Deebles McBeebles

One More Toy wrote: »

That's bullshít, 30 for basic package and 30 more for sport

Now tv is 30 a month for the sky sports channels.

Canis Lupus

Masterchef > football.

lleti

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Now tv is 30 a month for the sky sports channels.

Is that good? I can watch in browser? Cancel anytime? It's got all the skysports?

el_gaucho

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Now tv is 30 a month for the sky sports channels.

€39 per month.

One More Toy

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Now tv is 30 a month for the sky sports channels.

Don't have broadband - too expensive

elperello

Yes, it's a zero sum game.
Big business putting a pay wall around sporting events that built their following on the back of voluntary effort.

Yer Da sells Avon

Allinall wrote: »

Just pay for it.

Why should you be able to watch it for free?

Formula One, for example, is not worth paying extra for. It's not even worth the time it takes for find a decent quality stream. It was never 'free' anyway, being funded through either the television licence or advertising. I gradually stopped watching it when they stopped showing all races free-to-air. I'm certain that millions of others did the same. A big pile of cash for the owners of the 'sport' in the short-term, but at some point in the future, the sums will no longer add up.

Iptv, every sports channel in the world for 10 euro a month.

Deebles McBeebles

lleti wrote: »

Is that good? I can watch in browser? Cancel anytime? It's got all the skysports?

Yeah it's great. You can just get a month/week pass. And you watch it in a browser.

Deebles McBeebles

el_gaucho wrote: »

€39 per month.

Ah that must be the new user price, didn't realise. I got the first 3 months of the football season for 30. Usually 30 per month for me.

If you cancel your pass they sometimes offer a better deal.

AMKC

One More Toy wrote: »

I'd rather much be watching Liverpool play right now but instead I'm watching masterfúcking chef. Never see f1 any more, was a fanatic when it was free to watch on BBC and ITV.

Fcuk $ky and Virgin and eir

Don't forget Amazon and Netfliks.

You can still watch F1 on Channel 4.

super_furry wrote: »

But the thing is, before pay TV came along, there was very little football on TV. It's why the FA Cup was such a big deal.

Good was better off that way. I agree with he OP that pay T.V has ruined everything.

NIMAN wrote: »

I have iptv, costs 25 a year.

And I still rarely watch stuff. Maybe a handful of EPL games per season, and don't worry about CL until the knockouts in March.

Don't think I will ever pay for sky or other providers. Simply don't care enough about football any more to justify the outlay.

Your better off without. I think anyone paying to watch overpaid spoilt kids basically run around a field kicking a ball needs to have there head examined.

el_gaucho

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Yeah it's great. You can just get a month/week pass. And you watch it in a browser.

Quality is good as well. Much better than live streaming on Virgin Media or the dreaded RTÉ player. It can go blurry for a few seconds every now and then but generally very good.

Deebles McBeebles

sugarman wrote: »

It's atrocious, only 720p. Looks terrible on anything bigger than a laptop.

Have it on a 32 inch HD TV and it looks perfect to me.

A2LUE42

lleti wrote: »

Is that good? I can watch in browser? Cancel anytime? It's got all the skysports?

58 for 3 months at the moment for Now TV. Cast from phone to Chromecast or buy nowtv stick.

Eirsport had tonight's match on virgin sport channel, free with broadband on green eir app, again cast to Chromecast on TV.

Bobblehats

I just “keep up with the scores” on footybite it’s “ace”

M.T. Cranium

No, Mars and the Moon seem unaffected.

Bobblehats

I won’t be paying audebameyang’s goals/assists bonus anyway. His “loyalty bonus” is more than enough

el_gaucho

sugarman wrote: »

It wouldn't look too bad on a 32" 1080p TV.

But 4k 50"+ is the norm these days. A 720p stream looks ridiculous on it.

The quality is perfectly fine on my humble 42” screen.

Badly Drunk Boy

One More Toy wrote: »

Don't have broadband - too expensive

Your username is One More Toy, but it sounds like you don't have any toys to play with (especially if they cost money). Break out your Communion money and live a little!!

Tony EH

In some ways yes and in other ways no.

I think the standard of TV shows have risen considerably, compared to the 70's, 80's and 90's. Seriously, people need to go back and look at the TV shows that they used to think were great. Often times their not as good as we "remember" them.

However, a lot of modern TV shows are pretty poor too, and are often just fillers or "holding pattern" TV as someone on here called it once.

But, what I hate is this habit of "exclusive" TV shows to a new "channel". Show X is only on Blah Channel and Show Y is only Blah blah Channel, meaning you've got to dish out the readies for separate "stations" if you want to see the latest show everyone says is great.

This is only going to get worse as new "stations" see to outdo Netflix. In a few years, it'll cost a small fortune just to have the "stations" or "channels" that are showing that one show you want to see.

Of course, there are always other ways to get stuff, if you really want to see that show that everyone is talking about. But, I reckon that in the next few years that avenue will become harder and harder to do, as big companies continue to crack down on those type of "free" providers.

twowheelsonly

sugarman wrote: »

But 4k 50"+ is the norm these days.

Relatively popular but 'The Norm' ??? Definitely not.

In answer to the OP, I'd agree that it's ruined sports for a lot of people but I'd also think that at some stage it's going to come crashing down for both the TV companies and the likes of the EPL.

Fr Tod Umptious

twowheelsonly wrote: »

Relatively popular but 'The Norm' ??? Definitely not.

In answer to the OP, I'd agree that it's ruined sports for a lot of people but I'd also think that at some stage it's going to come crashing down for both the TV companies and the likes of the EPL.

Already the price paid for EPL rights has gone down in the last sale.
And one set of rights took a long time to sell.

You also see that Sky have split their channels in the UK, you can now just get Sky Football if you wish.
They have come to the conclusion that people are not as willing to pay for the stuff they have no im with the op on this one.

I'm not a huge fan of soccer but on a night like last night I would have sat down and watched Liverpool because it was Liverpool had it been on, but I had no interest in watching Napoli v Genk, which was the VM free offering, two teams I know nothing about.

JohnnyFlash

I’m loaded, and refuse to pay for Sky TV. Absolutely shocking waste of money. A seemingly endless list of channels showing reruns of the Chase, Top Gear, and the Great British Bake-off. 100 quid a month if you want all the sports channels. Bollocks to that.

Steve F

Allinall wrote: »

That’s great value.

Even if you were to watch three matches a week, that’s €5 per match. About the price of a pint for two hours entertainment.

And that’s not including all the other channels you get.

^^^ Sky employee?
That's nearly word for word what I was told on the phone last time they rang me trying to sell me more packages

Ohmeha

I've dumped Sky, Virgin and even now IPTV over recent years to save money, down the line if I get a decent wage bump I may return to Sky

There are completely free websites out there where you can stream decent quality football and F1 via Chromecast to your TV

I'm happy enough at the moment with my Freesat box, cheap Turkish Netflix subscription and only really paying any decent money towards an unlimited NFL subscription

Wanderer78

One More Toy wrote:

Fcuk $ky and Virgin and eir

Rob it back from them, plenty of methods out there

fryup

is this age of FTA telly don't see the need for pay TV, unless you're big into cross channel football

Allinall

Steve F wrote: »

^^^ Sky employee?
That's nearly word for word what I was told on the phone last time they rang me trying to sell me more packages

I've been accused of being a lot of things over the years, but that's a first!

Reasonably happy customer. have switched to Virgin once or twice to avail of offers, but their service it shoite, so back to Sky I go.

Love most sports, so for me it's great value.

namloc1980

Pay TV like Sky is scandalously expensive. FTA and Saorview supplemented with Netflix, free eir sports app for Champs League and Gamepass for NFL. Cheap and covers everything I want.

weldoninhio

fryup wrote: »

is this age of FTA telly don't see the need for pay TV, unless you're big into cross channel football

What if you are into non cross channel football?? You need pay tv (Eir) to watch that.

BalcombeSt4

"The only reason they have not monopolized the daylight and the air is that it is not possible to do it. If it were possible to construct huge gasometers and to draw together and compress within them the whole of the atmosphere, it would have been done long ago, and we should have been compelled to work for them in order to get money to buy air to breathe. And if that seemingly impossible thing were accomplished tomorrow, you would see thousands of people dying for want of air - or of the money to buy it..."

normanoffside

One More Toy wrote: »

That's bullshít, 30 for basic package and 30 more for sport

If you tell Sky you are cancelling because it’s too dear, they offer an immediate 40% discount (after you are off the phone cancelling)

I’ve heard if you hold out to the end of the month notice period they eventually offer 60%+ discount to keep you but I have never gotten that far, I always take the 40%

heffo500

Hopefully DAZN will change things...

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/may/14/streaming-service-dazn-netflix-sport-us-boxing-eddie-hearn

grogi

One More Toy wrote: »

I'd rather much be watching Liverpool play right now but instead I'm watching masterfúcking chef. Never see f1 any more, was a fanatic when it was free to watch on BBC and ITV.

Fcuk $ky and Virgin and eir

Fcuk sports on TV. I hate it and refuse for public TV pay the license fees with money from taxes and TV license.

Free TV should be for news, arts/high culture and education TV for kids. Stuff that doesn't sell, but is important. Liverpool game? Pay for it if you want.

Feisar

grogi wrote: »

Fcuk sports on TV. I hate it and refuse for public TV pay the license fees with money from taxes and TV license.

Free TV should be for news, arts/high culture and education TV for kids. Stuff that doesn't sell, but is important. Liverpool game? Pay for it if you want.

See the arts/culture are entertainment, same as football.

fryup

weldoninhio wrote: »

What if you are into non cross channel football?? You need pay tv (Eir) to watch that.

plenty of non-cross channel football on FTA, portuguese, spanish and USA leagues featured

riclad

Thats how capitalism works, sport gets most of its, income by selling tv right,s ,and merch .Say you are a liverpool fan just go to the pub when theres, a match on . At least you can still watch gaa on rte and tg 4 .
the problem is if certain sports are just on pay tv, in 10 years time
the no of fans of a certain sport will decrease .
Young people without pay tv will never see the sport on tv .
If a sport is not on tv it may as well not exist .
The standard of tv drama is much higher than it was 10 years ago.
Companys like amazon and netflix are spending billions on making new
programs to attract customers .
There may be free sports channels on free to air satellite ,like eurosport.

http://en.satexpat.com/tv/uk/fta/

weldoninhio

fryup wrote: »

plenty of non-cross channel football on FTA, portuguese, spanish and USA leagues featured

I meant IRISH football.

fryup

sure doesn't RTE cover irish football, LoI