This Kitesurfer?

Brendan Bendar · 04-10-2019 08:36AM #1

Seems like a kitesurfer had to be rescued yesterday, involving helicopters and lifeboats and personnel.

All this despite numerous warnings and advice of dangerous or extremely dangerous conditions.

Who would be stiffed for the cost involved in this,one wonders.

What is the ‘protocol’ in these particular situations, in situations like this.

Should those ignoring these warnings and advice bear some of the cost?

Interesting.

Raconteuse · 04-10-2019 08:38AM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Should those ignoring these warnings and advice bear some of the cost?.

Seems fair to me.

ted1 · 04-10-2019 08:40AM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Seems like a kitesurfer had to be rescued yesterday, involving helicopters and lifeboats and personnel.

All this despite numerous warnings and advice of dangerous or extremely dangerous conditions.

Who would be stiffed for the cost involved in this,one wonders.

What is the ‘protocol’ in these particular situations, in situations like this.

Should those ignoring these warnings and advice bear some of the cost?

Interesting.

It was only 25 knots at the lake. The kite surfer has won both the Irish and British national titles.
The previous week the weather didn’t have a name and was blown 35 knots and no one cared

It was also only a yellow warning= Yellow Not unusual weather. Localised danger.

BDI · 04-10-2019 08:40AM

The pianist was much better. Really felt sorry for yer man.

whisky_galore · 04-10-2019 08:46AM

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

EmmetSpiceland · 04-10-2019 08:48AM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Seems like a kitesurfer had to be rescued yesterday, involving helicopters and lifeboats and personnel.

All this despite numerous warnings and advice of dangerous or extremely dangerous conditions.

Who would be stiffed for the cost involved in this,one wonders.

What is the ‘protocol’ in these particular situations, in situations like this.

Should those ignoring these warnings and advice bear some of the cost?

Interesting.

If I’d been surfing all my life and a storm like that one brought in the best waves there’s no way I’d been letting a “red flag” or some life guards telling me I can’t surf them.

Obviously, it’s my call and if anything happens it’s on me. Wouldn’t be looking for any RNLI or Coast Guard rescue.

Not sure who should foot the bill really, until the state puts in provisions to deal, more strictly, with reckless behaviour and alcohol related injuries then we’ll be paying, B.

kneemos · 04-10-2019 08:48AM

ted1 wrote: »

It was only 25 knots at the lake. The kite surfer has won both the Irish and British national titles.
The previous week the weather didn’t have a name and was blown 35 knots and no one cared

It was also only a yellow warning= Yellow Not unusual weather. Localised danger.

Yeah there wasn't any wind to talk of yesterday. The "storm"wasn't forecast to come anyway near the south east.

Brendan Bendar · 04-10-2019 08:57AM

ted1 wrote: »

It was only 25 knots at the lake. The kite surfer has won both the Irish and British national titles.
The previous week the weather didn’t have a name and was blown 35 knots and no one cared

It was also only a yellow warning= Yellow Not unusual weather. Localised danger.

Yes, but there were wall to wall ‘storm warnings’ over every platform, surely common sense would tell someone to heed of these,given the fact that the emergency services might be overworked with ‘real emergencies’?

The weather warnings cannot by default cover every square yard of the country, so perhaps maybe some ‘ big picture’ thinking might have been employed here?

kneemos · 04-10-2019 09:08AM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Yes, but there were wall to wall ‘storm warnings’ over every platform, surely common sense would tell someone to heed of these,given the fact that the emergency services might be overworked with ‘real emergencies’?

The weather warnings cannot by default cover every square yard of the country, so perhaps maybe some ‘ big picture’ thinking might have been employed here?

There was a yellow warning for later on in the evening for the east.

This is in no way related to the non storm. More like the media desperate for some sort of weather related tragedy.

Hector Savage · 04-10-2019 09:13AM

DON'T TAKE ANY UNNECESSARY JOURNEYS, DON'T GO INTO THE WATER!!

INCREDIBLY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SEEN ACTUALLY IN THE WATER!!!!!

Sky King · 04-10-2019 09:18AM

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Obviously, it’s my call and if anything happens it’s on me. Wouldn’t be looking for any RNLI or Coast Guard rescue.

Yeah. Sure.

AulWan · 04-10-2019 09:21AM

There is always someone who thinks they can beat the odds. There were videos of eejits jumping into the sea during Ophelia.

I think they should foot the bill yes, not for risking their own lives, but for unnecessarily risking the lives of the emergency personnel who have to come get them out of difficulty.

Plumbthedepths · 04-10-2019 09:25AM

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

If I’d been surfing all my life and a storm like that one brought in the best waves there’s no way I’d been letting a “red flag” or some life guards telling me I can’t surf them.

Obviously, it’s my call and if anything happens it’s on me. Wouldn’t be looking for any RNLI or Coast Guard rescue.

Not sure who should foot the bill really, until the state puts in provisions to deal, more strictly, with reckless behaviour and alcohol related injuries then we’ll be paying, B.

That's not how the emergency services work, they receive a call that someone is in trouble they don't wait to hear has the victim sought help. The person yesterday not only put their life in danger for an adrenaline rush but also the lives of first responders. The person in question is a selfish a**hole.

CalamariFritti · 04-10-2019 09:32AM

AulWan wrote: »

There is always someone who thinks they can beat the odds. There were videos of eejits jumping into the sea during Ophelia.

And there is also any amount of hand wringers who have never in their life been in the vicinity of a surfboard but yet know exactly when and when not to go into the water.

KaneToad · 04-10-2019 09:33AM

ted1 wrote: »

It was only 25 knots at the lake. The kite surfer has won both the Irish and British national titles.
The previous week the weather didn’t have a name and was blown 35 knots and no one cared

It was also only a yellow warning= Yellow Not unusual weather. Localised danger.

Pfffttt....facts and rational points.

Plumbthedepths · 04-10-2019 09:40AM

KaneToad wrote: »

Pfffttt....facts and rational points.

According to RTE news a kitesurfer and windsurfer were rescued off Wexford and the Kerry coast no mention of lake.

04-10-2019 09:44AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

According to RTE news a kitesurfer and windsurfer were rescued off Wexford and the Kerry coast no mention of lake.

Lady's island lake is the kite surfing spot.

fryup · 04-10-2019 09:49AM

name & shame them

ted1 · 04-10-2019 09:51AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

According to RTE news a kitesurfer and windsurfer were rescued off Wexford and the Kerry coast no mention of lake.

So people here are clearly forming an opinion based on limited knowledge.

the beer revolu · 04-10-2019 09:53AM

We need to ban all sports that involve risk.
Oh.
It seems we need to ban all sports and pastimes.

nthclare · 04-10-2019 09:55AM

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

If I’d been surfing all my life and a storm like that one brought in the best waves there’s no way I’d been letting a “red flag” or some life guards telling me I can’t surf them.

Obviously, it’s my call and if anything happens it’s on me. Wouldn’t be looking for any RNLI or Coast Guard rescue.

Not sure who should foot the bill really, until the state puts in provisions to deal, more strictly, with reckless behaviour and alcohol related injuries then we’ll be paying, B.

I remember being caught up in the rip in Doughmore beach in county Clare...

I was there for at least two hours, sitting it out on my bodyboard meanwhile the sets were building and building...
duck diving for my life lol
That place closes out over 4 ft no matter what swell direction or offshore wind.

So finally it jacked up I'd say 18 ft on the face....
Only one choice, bodyboard it on the whitewater in because it was nearly dark...

Frightening stuff all the same

Plumbthedepths · 04-10-2019 09:55AM

ted1 wrote: »

So people here are clearly forming an opinion based on limited knowledge.

I speak for me not others. As I said someone that goes out in a weather warning has a disregard for their own safety that's fine but that same disregard threatens the safety of others needlessly and in my opinion makes them selfish a**holes that need to face some form of sanction.

kneemos · 04-10-2019 09:57AM

nthclare wrote: »

I remember being caught up in the rip in Doughmore beach in county Clare...

I was there for at least two hours, sitting it out on my bodyboard meanwhile the sets were building and building...
duck diving for my life lol
That place closes out over 4 ft no matter what swell direction or offshore wind.

So finally it jacked up I'd say 18 ft on the face....
Only one choice, bodyboard it on the whitewater in because it was nearly dark...

Frightening stuff all the same

Knarly dude.

Sardonicat · 04-10-2019 09:59AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I speak for me not others. As I said someone that goes out in a weather warning has a disregard for their own safety that's fine but that same disregard threatens the safety of others needlessly and in my opinion makes them selfish a**holes that need to face some form of sanction.

Except this particular individual didn't go out in a weather warning. There was no warning in place where he was.

nthclare · 04-10-2019 09:59AM

kneemos wrote: »

Knarly dude.

it was knarly alright, because I only meant to head out for an hour and it was around 3ft but rising.
There's a nice wave on the turf bank at mid tide, and when it's working right you will get barreled on the bodyboard...

kneemos · 04-10-2019 09:59AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I speak for me not others. As I said someone that goes out in a weather warning has a disregard for their own safety that's fine but that same disregard threatens the safety of others needlessly and in my opinion makes them selfish a**holes that need to face some form of sanction.

Don't think there even was a weather warning for the south east yesterday afternoon.
Maybe a small craft warning or something.

the beer revolu · 04-10-2019 10:00AM

kneemos wrote: »

Knarly dude.

Bodyboard?
Hardly!

Brendan Bendar · 04-10-2019 10:01AM

kneemos wrote: »

There was a yellow warning for later on in the evening for the east.

This is in no way related to the non storm. More like the media desperate for some sort of weather related tragedy.

With respect that’s not really the point I am trying to make.

There were numerous warnings on radio and other platforms advising people to take care.

I am looking at the big picture, I presume the Waterford Heli covers a big area so I would have thought that despite the fact that conditions did not quite match forecast in the area that people would understand the bigger picture, and not use that day to go windsurfing.

The fact that the incident was not as said ‘weather related’ is irrelevant the real fact is that this occupied the emergency services for some time, when warnings has been issued ad nauseam,that extreme weather was forecast.

the beer revolu · 04-10-2019 10:02AM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

With respect that’s not really the point I am trying to make.

There were numerous warnings on radio and other platforms advising people to take care.

I am looking at the big picture, I presume the Waterford Heli covers a big area so I would have thought that despite the fact that conditions did not quite match forecast in the area that people would understand the bigger picture, and not use that day to go windsurfing.

The fact that the incident was not as said ‘weather related’ is irrelevant the real fact is that this occupied the emergency services for some time, when warnings has been issued ad nauseam,that extreme weather was forecast.

Did you drive anywhere yesterday?

Brendan Bendar · 04-10-2019 10:04AM

the beer revolu wrote: »

We need to ban all sports that involve risk.
Oh.
It seems we need to ban all sports and pastimes.

No just make participants more responsible for their own actions and the risks of others.

In the pocket is probably the best way.

Levels out the thinking.

Brendan Bendar · 04-10-2019 10:04AM

the beer revolu wrote: »

Did you drive anywhere yesterday?

No.

This Kitesurfer?

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