Dublin is Not a Kip

johnnyskeleton · 03-10-2019 12:49AM

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

The northside of the city, bar a strip up from the Ha’penny Bridge to Henry St, is a hellhole.

Liffey street? Haha. That used to be where you get fireworks and counterfeit jeans. Then marks and spencers moved in and arnotts did up their cafe and suddenly its got notions

wakka12 · 03-10-2019 01:38AM

smurgen wrote: »

One of the most depressing capitals in the 1st world.

Not the worst title is it. Most first world capitals are really nice. Dublin is fine

kyote00 · 03-10-2019 01:52AM

Hector Gray's and the Bamba

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

Liffey street? Haha. That used to be where you get fireworks and counterfeit jeans. Then marks and spencers moved in and arnotts did up their cafe and suddenly its got notions

Your Face · 03-10-2019 03:18AM

I don't think its a kip but its infrastructure is lacking.
Same could be said of the rest of the country.

VayNiice · 03-10-2019 05:46AM

I've lived in Dublin, Cork, Galway and Waterford. Dublin is no more of a kip than anywhere else in Ireland. Yes there are ****ty parts in the North inner city but there are also lovely parts of Dublin too. I lived in Dun Laoghaire and absolutely loved it.
There are bad areas in every county in Ireland and no end of ****ty towns all over the place.

Skangers are absolutely not unique to Dublin. You can barely throw a rock in Ireland without hitting a shell suit no matter where you go.

ThunbergsAreGo · 03-10-2019 06:38AM

VayNiice wrote: »

I've lived in Dublin, Cork, Galway and Waterford. Dublin is no more of a kip than anywhere else in Ireland. Yes there are ****ty parts in the North inner city but there are also lovely parts of Dublin too. I lived in Dun Laoghaire and absolutely loved it.
There are bad areas in every county in Ireland and no end of ****ty towns all over the place.

Skangers are absolutely not unique to Dublin. You can barely throw a rock in Ireland without hitting a shell suit no matter where you go.

Or any large European city. Most of the v train stations in central and southern Europe are in horrible rundown locations.

Feel like those saying it's a kip compared to other cities are looking through tourist lens at other places.

virginmediapls · 03-10-2019 07:44AM

MrAbyss wrote: »

Following on from the 'According to Leo' thread, amazed how so many people think Dublin is a kip. I worked in a hotel once and I - 100% serious - used to get complaints from tourists disappointed it was not a kip. They were actually shocked at how nice, clean and safe Dublin is. Yes really!

This 'kip' assumption came from two identifiable sources. Retarded culchies with a chip on their shoulders, and Skanger Dubs who would be human waste regardless of where they would live or reside.

Dublin may have the worst public transport system in Europe - thanks to governments not wanting to build underground rail systems - and the high rents - due to governments not building above a few floors high - but a kip it is not.

Lived here for five years, nice part of Dublin. House frequently robbed. Skangers everywhere.

It is a complete and total ****hole, objectively.

bangkok · 03-10-2019 07:48AM

I would also say it is a kip. Zombie junkies riddle the city centre, the luas is full of scum, not a noce feel to the city centre

The Inpatient · 03-10-2019 07:50AM

Grew up there to the age of 32, you can follow a line around the city of 'Kips'

Crumlin, Tallaght, Clondalkin, Ballyfermot, Blanchardstown, Cabra, Finglas, Darndale, Coolock

Not to mention some of the inner city kips, Dolphins barn, Inchicore etc

Sorry to say, large swathes of Dublin are Kips, but also large swathes are affluent.

Wealth distribution being the culprit i say, which goes for most cities.

hardybuck · 03-10-2019 08:01AM

hynesie08 wrote: »

It needs the northside to fight back though, Dublins biggest earner right now is tourism, and what is there on the north side? The people on the northside need to promote it better. I'm a northsider working on the southside and I try hard to push cafes/bars/attractions on the northside, but tourists only care about the storehouse/the castle/the gaol/the 2 cathedrals etc...... How does the northside fight that???

Didn't the DCC councillors block the redevelopment of the old laundry site on Sean McDermott St?

skooterblue2 · 03-10-2019 08:09AM

Likeabossboss wrote: »

It’s an overpriced, smelly, full of scumbags, traffic congested Kip. Lived there for three years and would never go back.

I don't understand how people like living there

Agreed but the investments are designated for Dublin. Look at development. Dublin 15 has far too many pharmaceutical plants while there are towns in the midlands like Tipperary who are dying to to get one to sustain the population.

As for Dublin full of skangers, lower end working class men with unskilled jobs are most in danger of slipping off the edge of society and into poverty, drug addiction and homelessness.

JohnnyFlash · 03-10-2019 08:11AM

Dublin is a great spot. I’m a culchie and love living here. Most of the shade thrown at the place is from bitter mucksavages living in depressing rural towns as they count down the years until the merciful release of death takes them. The types of town where the opening of a Eurogiant is a major event.

skooterblue2 · 03-10-2019 08:15AM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Dublin is a great spot. I’m a culchie and love living here. Most of the shade thrown at the place is from bitter mucksavages living in depressing rural towns as they count down the years until the merciful release of death takes them. The types of town where the opening of a Eurogiant is a major event.

Just arrived off the train from Ballyhaunis? Give it a few years and the long commutes, the zombie army (Junkies) and cultural diversity will wear you out like a fluffy slipper after being ran in a marathon.

03-10-2019 08:28AM

The number of bog-warriors who stick their heads up out of their piles of turf to knock our fair city will never cease to amaze me. The same sort of clowns who are still registered and vote in their home parish, get their post sent home to their parents place and expect to be taken seriously when you drift in with that chip on your shoulder.

Dublin is a great place, with great people and so much to do it would make a muck savage's head spin. You eejits should stop projecting your disappointments in your own life and bogball/mass centred origins onto Dublin and its people. The millions of muck savages who came to Dublin to study, work and have something else to do aside from drink pints and play cards or darts or go to mass (again), while still knocking the place that provides you that opportunity are derisible.

You're like internally displaced migrants, taking what you can/like and thumbing your noses at the place and people who make it possible for you to get somewhere, anywhere other than the hick town full of rednecks who couldn't provide a communal pot to piss in. I've known a lot of ye over the years and with few exceptions you're all the same. Typical culchie mindset, feeling like the Dubs have robbed you of something that was never yours in the first place. 5 in a row, look at the lot of you going mental about how 'unfair' it is. Entitled fools.

From traffic to rent, you create the problem for yourselves and for us Dublin natives alike, landing in like a pile of impoverished country bumpkins looking for crap bedsits/flats/house-shares as students and then hanging around for a few years while you take advantage of the chance to start your working lives. Poxy moany misers with SFA interest in actually making a life in Dublin, looking to make some money on property before slinking off to the bog when it's time to start a family.

You feed into the pressures on traffic and infrastucture, house prices and all of that, before you stick it to some other distant relative when it's their time to come to Dublin for their start in life while you retreat to the comfort of life close to mammy and the nattering old bores in the local petrol station or pub. You came to Dublin to get a life. Remember that and be grateful you had that chance.

So shut your traps, roll up your sleeves and get on with it and kill that bogger mentality. Or take the roads home and leave the rest of us to get on with life in one of the best places in Ireland. Love it or leave it and if you can't do that, just STFU and do what you're here to do without complaining.

Up the Dubs.

rgmmg · 03-10-2019 08:59AM

theguzman wrote: »

The real pity was the Ireland did not partake in World War II Dublin would have most likely been flattened by the Luftwaffe and with Marshall Aid Plan money it would have been rebuilt as something proper and nice, Ireland would have been reunited as Churchill had basically told De Valera join the Allies and our cause and you will get the 6 counties back after WWII when we beat the Germans. Not only would Dublin have benefited but the rest of the country also.

We were hardly going to fall for that one twice :rolleyes:

Raconteuse · 03-10-2019 08:59AM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Poor you

Because they say a word?

Anyway, I am not saying this in agreement with the more stupid blanket statements against Dublin, but while I don't think the city overall is a kip (obviously it isn't - some of it is beautiful) I do think the city centre has deteriorated in terms of anti social behaviour. Lived there for a while, loved it, felt perfectly safe... but that was about 10 years ago, and it is less welcoming imo now. Frightening the way some of the junkies and "ne'er do wells" are.

And I'm not one of those "Cork is the real capital boy!" eejits but comments about Cork being dangerous are laughable. Cork is phenomenally safe.

Raconteuse · 03-10-2019 09:04AM

JayZeus wrote: »

The number of bog-warriors who stick their heads up out of their piles of turf to knock our fair city will never cease to amaze me. The same sort of clowns who are still registered and vote in their home parish, get their post sent home to their parents place and expect to be taken seriously when you drift in with that chip on your shoulder.

Dublin is a great place, with great people and so much to do it would make a muck savage's head spin. You eejits should stop projecting your disappointments in your own life and bogball/mass centred origins onto Dublin and its people. The millions of muck savages who came to Dublin to study, work and have something else to do aside from drink pints and play cards or darts or go to mass (again), while still knocking the place that provides you that opportunity are derisible.

You're like internally displaced migrants, taking what you can/like and thumbing your noses at the place and people who make it possible for you to get somewhere, anywhere other than the hick town full of rednecks who couldn't provide a communal pot to piss in. I've known a lot of ye over the years and with few exceptions you're all the same. Typical culchie mindset, feeling like the Dubs have robbed you of something that was never yours in the first place. 5 in a row, look at the lot of you going mental about how 'unfair' it is. Entitled fools.

From traffic to rent, you create the problem for yourselves and for us Dublin natives alike, landing in like a pile of impoverished country bumpkins looking for crap bedsits/flats/house-shares as students and then hanging around for a few years while you take advantage of the chance to start your working lives. Poxy moany misers with SFA interest in actually making a life in Dublin, looking to make some money on property before slinking off to the bog when it's time to start a family.

You feed into the pressures on traffic and infrastucture, house prices and all of that, before you stick it to some other distant relative when it's their time to come to Dublin for their start in life while you retreat to the comfort of life close to mammy and the nattering old bores in the local petrol station or pub. You came to Dublin to get a life. Remember that and be grateful you had that chance.

So shut your traps, roll up your sleeves and get on with it and kill that bogger mentality. Or take the roads home and leave the rest of us to get on with life in one of the best places in Ireland. Love it or leave it and if you can't do that, just STFU and do what you're here to do without complaining.

Up the Dubs.

I agree with a lot of that but "insults and generalisations are terrible - I'm going to fire out a load of insults and generalisations now to express my objection to insults and generalisations" is an approach I do not get (and it's very common here of late).

Feisar · 03-10-2019 09:12AM

North side city center is kippy but other than that she's a nice city.

Imagine if Connolly Station was around Trinity College, I think people would have a different view. Amien's St. is often the first and last impressions of Dublin people have.

mondeo · 03-10-2019 09:12AM

Parts of Dublin is a kip, what makes it a kip is the people that live in those parts. All the social housing areas are generally kips, high unemployment makes areas a kip to. People too busy standing around shouting and screaming outside the pub at 4pm in their tracksuit when they should have a job.. Little iffy young lads running around at night acting the sh!te when they should be doing their homework or something else useful. The recent spawn of African heritage young lads making trouble around parts of Dublin when they should be thankful their mammy and daddy were granted asylum here instead of threatening pregnant mothers with broken glass bottles. Dangerous little pr!cks !

Dublin is a kip in many places, it's the peoples attitude that make it that way. Dublin needs more Gardai with more powers.

Simms · 03-10-2019 09:23AM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Dublin is a great spot. I’m a culchie and love living here. Most of the shade thrown at the place is from bitter mucksavages living in depressing rural towns as they count down the years until the merciful release of death takes them. The types of town where the opening of a Eurogiant is a major event.

Agree with you. A culchie myself, I've lived in Stoneybatter for 20 years and love the place. Apparently, according to a piece in the Irish Times recently, it's in the top fifty trendiest places to live on the planet. What ever they say...it'll do wonders for my equity.
We're lucky enough to have a holiday house in Clifden and spend a lot of time there but my wife is hinting about a permanent move in a couple of years.
Now don't get me wrong, I never tire of Connemara, it's stunning and peaceful but after the city I think that I'd miss the sheer convenience of the options Dublin has to offer. Bit of a ying and yang conundrum.

Ona side note, I've fogotten how cute the culchies are. They'd have your life history out of you before you know it....lol I've found the Dubs are a bit less conniving and generally more upfront.

topper75 · 03-10-2019 09:26AM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Georgian North Dublin is amazing, but neglected.

True.

However, funnily enough, it was actually the Georgians themselves who first started neglecting it.
The Duke of Leinster lad jumped over the river to build Leinster House, and he was so trendy - the other grandees followed him.
By Victorian times, the old fancy townhouses on the north side of the Liffey were just overcrowded tenements housing the poorest of the poor.

Edgware · 03-10-2019 09:34AM

Dublin is a great city. Of course there are dirtbirds but check out the weekly court reports in the provincial papers and you will see similar. Smithfield Stoneybatter Arbour Hill are up and coming areas on the Northside with the section pubs coffee shops etc getting better.
Go to the Phoenix Park any Saturday and you can go cycling, walking, visit Farmleigh, the zoo, Aras an Uachtarain. Similar south of the river. Just do a bit of research.
Maybe if there was a greater police presence on the street something could be done about the junkies etc but that is mainly a city centre issue. Visit the big suburban parks like Marley, St Annes Malahide and you can have a great day out.

Woke Hogan · 03-10-2019 09:37AM

Dublin is absolutely a kip and its defenders have laughably feeble excuses.

"it's only a bleedin' kip on de north soide,"

"it's the bleedin' africans, up de dubz!"

"yizzers're just jealous wizzers wons de foive in a row-ih"

angel eyes 2012 · 03-10-2019 09:41AM

Edgware wrote: »

Dublin is a great city. Of course there are dirtbirds but check out the weekly court reports in the provincial papers and you will see similar. Smithfield Stoneybatter Arbour Hill are up and coming areas on the Northside with the section pubs coffee shops etc getting better.
Go to the Phoenix Park any Saturday and you can go cycling, walking, visit Farmleigh, the zoo, Aras an Uachtarain. Similar south of the river. Just do a bit of research.
Maybe if there was a greater police presence on the street something could be done about the junkies etc but that is mainly a city centre issue. Visit the big suburban parks like Marley, St Annes Malahide and you can have a great day out.

Heavy policing has never and will never solve drug dependency. It is a health and social issue, moving the drug takers on does not solve any problem. And anyway this country has a greater problem with alcohol abuse and also an increase in cocaine use.

Peatys · 03-10-2019 09:42AM

theguzman wrote: »

The real pity was the Ireland did not partake in World War II Dublin would have most likely been flattened by the Luftwaffe and with Marshall Aid Plan money it would have been rebuilt as something proper and nice, Ireland would have been reunited as Churchill had basically told De Valera join the Allies and our cause and you will get the 6 counties back after WWII when we beat the Germans. Not only would Dublin have benefited but the rest of the country also.

How many would have died in this fantasy of yours?

Earthhorse · 03-10-2019 09:44AM

Raconteuse wrote: »

I agree with a lot of that but "insults and generalisations are terrible - I'm going to fire out a load of insults and generalisations now to express my objection to insults and generalisations" is an approach I do not get (and it's very common here of late).

I get it a bit. A lot of the same topics coming up again and again (particularly impersonal ones like this). People get annoyed at it.

Greyfox · 03-10-2019 09:47AM

virginmediapls wrote: »

Lived here for five years, nice part of Dublin. House frequently robbed. Skangers everywhere.

It is a complete and total ****hole, objectively.

You were unlucky. myself and my family and friends in Dublin never had there house robbed, these things happen everywhere. Most Skangers can easily be ignored. Objectively what you see in Dublin you see it lots of other places

bangkok wrote: »

I would also say it is a kip. Zombie junkies riddle the city centre, the luas is full of scum, not a noce feel to the city centre

There is a junkie problem in the city centre but every city has its negative points. The luas is full of mostly hard working people and a few junkies who obviously never pay. There's actually a very nice vibe to the city as most people are very friendly.

The Inpatient wrote: »

Grew up there to the age of 32, you can follow a line around the city of 'Kips'

Crumlin, Tallaght, Clondalkin, Ballyfermot, Blanchardstown, Cabra, Finglas, Darndale, Coolock

Not to mention some of the inner city kips, Dolphins barn, Inchicore etc

You have a silly criteria for a kip, at this rate there's about 300 places in Ireland that are kips. Crumlin, Blanchardstown and Inchicore are grand, very little trouble. The other area's have nice parts and kippy parts of the area and don't qualify as kips. Maybe Finglas, Darndale and Coolock but I don't know these 3 areas that well

jam_mac_jam · 03-10-2019 09:56AM

I really like Dublin, its nice and compact with loads to do and nice restaurants, bars and shops. Yes there are some run down areas around the place and they are getting better but I dont really get why people don't like it or have a chip on their shoulder about it. Just don't come here.

A kip is a bit far fetched. I love Georgian Dublin, the squares and the parks, I love the sea is so near like areas like Clontarf and Sandymount, where you are so near the city but walk out to the sea. I love the hills that we like to call mountains. I love the Phoenix park right beside the city. I love Howth, I love Kiliney hill.

I wish people would stop moaning and whinging and put a bit of energy or thought into making things better instead of just running down Ireland all the time. We have lovely towns and cities and Dublin is one of them.

Utter Consternation · 03-10-2019 09:59AM

It's a pure sh1thole. You'd want your wits about you walking around O'Connell Street or anywhere in the vicinity of Gardiner Street.

There's an awful lot of people living in Dublin who have never been outside their locale or would ever consider moving outside it. They think that whatever area they're from is the centre of the world. It's bizarre.

evil_seed · 03-10-2019 10:00AM

MrAbyss wrote: »

There are 'skangers' EVERYWHERE. Scallies, Chavs,'Corner Boys' in rural Ireland, etc etc...

Only time I've heard of "Corner boys" was from watching the wire. And that wasn't rural Ireland. Must be a Dublin thing

Dublin is Not a Kip

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