Dublin is Not a Kip

MrAbyss

Following on from the 'According to Leo' thread, amazed how so many people think Dublin is a kip. I worked in a hotel once and I - 100% serious - used to get complaints from tourists disappointed it was not a kip. They were actually shocked at how nice, clean and safe Dublin is. Yes really!

This 'kip' assumption came from two identifiable sources. Retarded culchies with a chip on their shoulders, and Skanger Dubs who would be human waste regardless of where they would live or reside.

Dublin may have the worst public transport system in Europe - thanks to governments not wanting to build underground rail systems - and the high rents - due to governments not building above a few floors high - but a kip it is not.

sadie1502

Is. Big kip.

Salary Negotiator

If I’d never left Dublin I’d probably think it wasn’t a kip too.

Woke Hogan

“Skangers” only come from Dublin, there’s no such thing as a “skanger” anywhere else in the world. That should tell you how great Dublin is.

Hal3000

MrAbyss wrote: »

Following on from the 'According to Leo' thread, amazed how so many people think Dublin is a kip. I worked in a hotel once and I - 100% serious - used to get complaints from tourists disappointed it was not a kip. They were actually shocked at how nice, clean and safe Dublin is. Yes really!

This 'kip' assumption came from two identifiable sources. Retarded culchies with a chip on their shoulders, and Skanger Dubs who would be human waste regardless of where they would live or reside.

Dublin may have the worst public transport system in Europe - thanks to governments not wanting to build underground rail systems - and the high rents - due to governments not building above a few floors high - but a kip it is not.

Then why is our area being plagued by scumbags on mopeds stealing cars and checking house doors for the past few months? I don’t care what tourists thinks. I live here and was born a bred in this town. It’s going down hill fast. This never happened before but our new revolving door justice system means these fellas couldn’t give a rats about getting caught.

MrAbyss

Woke Hogan wrote: »

“Skangers” only come from Dublin, there’s no such thing as a “skanger” anywhere else in the world. That should tell you how great Dublin is.

There are 'skangers' EVERYWHERE. Scallies, Chavs,'Corner Boys' in rural Ireland, etc etc...

MrAbyss

Hal3000 wrote: »

Then why is our area being plagued by scumbags on mopeds stealing cars and checking house doors for the past few months? I don’t care what tourists thinks. I live here and was born a bred in this town. It’s going down hill fast. This never happened before but our new revolving door justice system means these fellas couldn’t give a rats about getting caught.

Because 'your area' is not every area.

Hal3000

MrAbyss wrote: »

There are 'skangers' EVERYWHERE. Scallies, Chavs,'Corner Boys' in rural Ireland, etc etc...

Dublin has a very high skobie population. Even I know that and I’m from here.

Thelonious Monk

Hal3000 wrote: »

Dublin has a very high skobie population. Even I know that and I’m from here.

Do you say words like "skobie" out loud around other people?

EmmetSpiceland

The northside of the city, bar a strip up from the Ha’penny Bridge to Henry St, is a hellhole.

The area around the top of O’Connell St is probably the worst part of the city. Gets worse as the sun goes down.

Don’t get me wrong, I love Dublin but you can’t escape that parts of it are complete ****holes.

Hal3000

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Do you say words like "skobie" out loud around other people?

Yes I do actually

Thelonious Monk

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

The northside of the city, bar a strip up from the Ha’penny Bridge to Henry St, is a hellhole.

The area around the top of O’Connell St is probably the worst part of the city. Gets worse as the sun goes down.

Don’t get me wrong, I love Dublin but you can’t escape that parts of it are complete ****holes.

Capel St is great. My mate used to have a place on Parnell st, the Chinese end, and I loved it around there. All kinds of folks. Smithfield and Stoneybatter have some good stuff going on too. Hellhole is a stretch.

Thelonious Monk

Hal3000 wrote: »

Yes I do actually

Poor you

road_high

It’s not a kip as such (some areas are though) but I think it’s a vastly overrated city for tourists. I don’t think it’s particularly cultured or well endowed with amazing architecture or places to visit. And it’s not easy get around either. I love to pop up for an occasional day trip but living there or staying for days? No thanks

MrAbyss

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

The northside of the city, bar a strip up from the Ha’penny Bridge to Henry St, is a hellhole.

The area around the top of O’Connell St is probably the worst part of the city. Gets worse as the sun goes down.

Don’t get me wrong, I love Dublin but you can’t escape that parts of it are complete ****holes.

but all cities have parts like this. Look at entire segments of Saint Denis in Paris, but nobody claims that is all of Paris.

Thelonious Monk

MrAbyss wrote: »

but all cities have parts like this. Look at entire segments of Saint Denis in Paris, but nobody claims that is all of Paris.

That's nowhere near the centre in fairness

Hal3000

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Poor you

Quite the opposite actually

corner of hells

road_high wrote: »

It’s not a kip as such (some areas are though) but I think it’s a vastly overrated city for tourists. I don’t think it’s particularly cultured or well endowed with amazing architecture or places to visit. And it’s not easy get around either. I love to pop up for an occasional day trip but living there or staying for days? No thanks

Really has nothing much going for it ?
No Phoenix Park , no museums , no Chester Beatty library in Dublin Castle ,no Basin in Blessington Street , no Trinity College , no Kilmanhaim Jail nothing at all.

Spanish Eyes

There's no doubt that certain areas are dodgy, like every city.

And because of chip n pin or tap and go, no one EVER has change for a hostel anymore. Sorry now, but the same applies to the charity bag packers in supermarkets too now.

So let's see what changes.

DCC need to spruce up the pavements and surroundings and make it better. But they don't really care much anymore, which is a total shame.

Earthhorse

It's not a kip but there are kippy areas. This comes as a shock to some and they never recover from it.

Thelonious Monk

corner of hells wrote: »

Really has nothing much going for it ?
No Phoenix Park , no museums , no Chester Beatty library in Dublin Castle ,no Basin in Blessington Street , no Trinity College , no Kilmanhaim Jail nothing at all.

The Phoenix park is mostly just a load of grass in fairness, it's not the type of place I'd ever go for a stroll.

John_Rambo

Yeah, I work on various culturural projects in the city and have yet to meet a tourists that doesn't like the city. In fairness, these tourists would do more cool stuff in a weekend than your Irish visitor to the city will do in a year.

Hal3000

Earthhorse wrote: »

It's not a kip but there are kippy areas. This comes as a shock to some and they never recover from it.

Let’s call a kip a kip here. The place is a kip. It’s a kip with a few nice areas.

theteal

It is a kip but it's OUR kip so leaveirouh. . . .






. . . .says the bloke who now lives in England

Jonybgud

no, it's still a kip....

Likeabossboss

It’s an overpriced, smelly, full of scumbags, traffic congested Kip. Lived there for three years and would never go back.

I don't understand how people like living there

riclad

Every city in europe has rough area,s , every small town in ireland has skangers .
Dublin is going thru a boom in hotel building and office building.
Meanwhile some clubs have closed down,we are going through a cultural brain drain .Artists and creative people are leaving, rent costs are too high.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/02/dublin-booming-rich-city-housing-crisis-rent-inequality
quote ;

According to a cost of living study by the pay and pensions specialist, Mercer, Dublin is the most expensive city to live in the eurozone, ahead of Milan and Paris.
Dublin is becoming a city for tourists and big corporations ,
i feel in the 90,s it was much better in regard to arts, music, clubs.
i have read there,s plenty of rough area,s of paris .
Every large city has posh middle class area,s and working class area,s .
We have the luas ,a good bus service, we are in a boom now,
so of course traffic is very slow at peak time.

Spanish Eyes

It most certainly is NOT a kip but parts of it are.

I think investment in the North City is zero, and it has so much potential, (well leaving aside Docklands Dollars let us say, that is ok now and full of funding).

The area around Mountjoy Square is just as good as Merrion Square regarding Georgian architecture, but has never had any investment.

Merrion Square on the other hand, a mirror image of Mountjoy Square and surrounding areas is the creme de la creme. Georgian North Dublin is amazing, but neglected.

Just need to google map the areas around Belvedere College. Amazing but underrated.

I wonder why that is?

smurgen

One of the most depressing capitals in the 1st world.

Greyfox

Earthhorse wrote: »

It's not a kip but there are kippy areas. This comes as a shock to some and they never recover from it.

True and every other big city has kippy areas too and sure there's plenty of Irish places outside Dublin that are really boring. Overall Dublin is a superb place to live, boredom is impossible with a vast amount of things to do and the friendliest people in the world. I wouldn't want to live anywhere else in the world.

road_high

corner of hells wrote: »

Really has nothing much going for it ?
No Phoenix Park , no museums , no Chester Beatty library in Dublin Castle ,no Basin in Blessington Street , no Trinity College , no Kilmanhaim Jail nothing at all.

See for me none of these are anything particularly standout or must see.

Hal3000

smurgen wrote: »

One of the most depressing capitals in the 1st world.

Our transport - hospitals - schools - infrastructure are definitely not 1st world. 2nd at best.

Spanish Eyes

smurgen wrote: »

One of the most depressing capitals in the 1st world.

Parts of it only. Like every other city.

There is a problem with beggars and that, but that happens everywhere.

The area around Georges, Camden Streets, and over to S William Street are magic.

There is not the same vibe from North of the Liffey though, that is for sure, but it could be great though not much is happening there really. Seems to be migrant heaven. Sorry but that's what is visible in those lovely Georgian streets North of the river now and sadly that gives out a message to potential investors. And on we go.

Plumbthedepths

Best view of Dublin is either from the air as you depart or the rearview mirror.

Spanish Eyes

Greyfox wrote: »

True and every other big city has kippy areas too and sure there's plenty of Irish places outside Dublin that are really boring. Overall Dublin is a superb place to live, boredom is impossible with a vast amount of things to do and the friendliest people in the world. I wouldn't want to live anywhere else in the world.

Great to hear someone who has a similar view on Dublin as myself.

But I am very disheartened about the Northside Georgian enclave. It is amazing but is totally off the map and neglected. I don't know why that is, it could be so much better. An untapped treasure IMV.

Incentives are now needed for the North Side. DCC don't care so I won't be holding my breath.

jay1988

Likeabossboss wrote: »

It’s an overpriced, smelly, full of scumbags, traffic congested Kip. Lived there for three years and would never go back.

I don't understand how people like living there

I'm sure its still 10 times the place whatever little ****hole town you came from is.

Church on Tuesday

Any of the big industrial cities in England are far bigger kips than Dublin ever will be.

And yes, I'm from the country. 'Hup' and all that jazz. I guess.

hynesie08

I love London, I love New York, and places like Prague and Budapest are some of the most beautiful places I've ever had the privilege of seeing.


But Dublin is the greatest place on earth and all the bitter corkonians and galwegians who will never understand what living in a city is like will never understand that investment will not create what they lack can go back to their parochial bitterness.......

Belfast is OK though, if I couldn't live in Dublin I'd gladly live there....

riclad

theres a new hotel being built about 20 yards from o,connell street,
the old clearys building is being turned into a building with new retail units and restaurants ,
So saying there is no investment on the north side is simply wrong.

Royale with Cheese

I drove through the city recently instead of taking the M50 and couldn't get over how much of a kip most of the city centre is, and I've lived here my entire life. I'm mid 30s now and avoid the city when possible, I work outside it so that's most of the time.

tonycascarino

Likeabossboss wrote: »

It’s an overpriced, smelly, full of scumbags, traffic congested Kip. Lived there for three years and would never go back.

I don't understand how people like living there

I'd agree. Lived there for about 8 years. Complete kip now, overpriced for what it offers, full of walking zombies and absolutely no soul to the city. If most of the jobs weren't in Dublin then very few people would actually want to go and live there.

hynesie08

riclad wrote: »

theres a new hotel being built about 20 yards from o,connell street,
the old clearys building is being turned into a building with new retail units and restaurants ,
So saying there is no investment on the north side is simply wrong.

It needs the northside to fight back though, Dublins biggest earner right now is tourism, and what is there on the north side? The people on the northside need to promote it better. I'm a northsider working on the southside and I try hard to push cafes/bars/attractions on the northside, but tourists only care about the storehouse/the castle/the gaol/the 2 cathedrals etc...... How does the northside fight that???

Spanish Eyes

riclad wrote: »

theres a new hotel being built about 20 yards from o,connell street,
the old clearys building is being turned into a building with new retail units and restaurants ,
So saying there is no investment on the north side is simply wrong.

What about Mountjoy Square and surrounds though?

O'Connell Street is not great either really in fairness

Northside Inner City is not on the radar of DCC. Discuss!

Dublin is a much better place than Cork, Limerick or Galway.

I did security in for just over 10 years mainly Dublin but also worked in Cork and Glasgow and I had far more trouble in both than in Dublin

Dublin has the night life and other attractions such as museums, libraries etc that the others don't.

Nearly fecking impossible to get a drink after 1am in Galway when I was there, was lucky enough to have an in law working as a barman in the Victoria so could get one there when they were working. No museums etc worth taking about.
Could get served till 3 or 4am in Dublin in a number of places with theatre licences when I was bothered heading out, or get a lock in at a couple of pubs.

Limerick had some nice spots but their O'Connell street was mainly fast food places and a good few vacant stores the last time I was there. The castle is about the only place worth visiting

Cork most of the people down there are grand, but never liked any of the places we used to end up in when down there when friends were in ucc and when working there briefly.
The old gaol is ok and ucc is good for a visit.
As for driving in it pain in the arse, Dublin is worse due to just numbers.

theguzman

The real pity was the Ireland did not partake in World War II Dublin would have most likely been flattened by the Luftwaffe and with Marshall Aid Plan money it would have been rebuilt as something proper and nice, Ireland would have been reunited as Churchill had basically told De Valera join the Allies and our cause and you will get the 6 counties back after WWII when we beat the Germans. Not only would Dublin have benefited but the rest of the country also.

hynesie08

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

What about Mountjoy Square and surrounds though?

O'Connell Street is not great either really in fairness

Northside Inner City is not on the radar of DCC. Discuss!

The Gregory deal, while a fantastic thing for the families who were housed by it (my own included) has basically put the North inner city at the bottom of the list for DCC. They won't care for about 10 years till another inner city politician holds the swing vote...

Spanish Eyes

hynesie08 wrote: »

It needs the northside to fight back though, Dublins biggest earner right now is tourism, and what is there on the north side? The people on the northside need to promote it better. I'm a northsider working on the southside and I try hard to push cafes/bars/attractions on the northside, but tourists only care about the storehouse/the castle/the gaol/the 2 cathedrals etc...... How does the northside fight that???

You have the Blessington Basin such a hidden gem that many have never heard about really, and the Georgian buildings around Mountjoy Square and that. And I am sure many other delights. What happened to the Northside of the City? Who are your councillors?

Annoy them pronto. But in reality they should see the potential themselves. Keep at it. Best of luck.

thehamo

Typical s*ite different day from people who just want to belittle everything positive.

I've been to Cork City. First thing I saw was a lad getting his phone snatched from a little gourier on a bike. Also full if junkies and scum begging.

Been to Galway. Couldn't move for the amount of traffic. Literally the worst I've ever seen.

Limerick, let's not go there.

WexFord Town, falling to pieces.

Tipp Town not worth a sh*t full of scum

Drogheda. Again let's not go there

Cavan Town, full of scum. ( granted a fair few ex pat dubs in that one?)

Athlone, second highest heroine usage after Dublin in the country. Some very dodgy placed.

Longford. Avoid at all costs.

Kilkenny: nice spot in the day time. Turns to sh1t in the night.

Just a small list of the MANY places in Ireland that *could qualify as a"kip" based on the criteria laid out for Dublin by some folk.

Likeabossboss

jay1988 wrote: »

I'm sure its still 10 times the place whatever little ****hole town you came from is.

Kilkenny - a great place!!

theguzman

theguzman wrote: »

The real pity was the Ireland did not partake in World War II Dublin would have most likely been flattened by the Luftwaffe and with Marshall Aid Plan money it would have been rebuilt as something proper and nice, Ireland would have been reunited as Churchill had basically told De Valera join the Allies and our cause and you will get the 6 counties back after WWII when we beat the Germans. Not only would Dublin have benefited but the rest of the country also.

Yeah right, Churchill could be trusted as far as he could have been thrown.

Mad_maxx

theguzman wrote: »

The real pity was the Ireland did not partake in World War II Dublin would have most likely been flattened by the Luftwaffe and with Marshall Aid Plan money it would have been rebuilt as something proper and nice, Ireland would have been reunited as Churchill had basically told De Valera join the Allies and our cause and you will get the 6 counties back after WWII when we beat the Germans. Not only would Dublin have benefited but the rest of the country also.

A Bonar law type would no doubt have emerged in 1945