Dublin is Not a Kip

Hal3000 · 02-10-2019 10:11PM

smurgen wrote: »

One of the most depressing capitals in the 1st world.

Our transport - hospitals - schools - infrastructure are definitely not 1st world. 2nd at best.

Spanish Eyes · 02-10-2019 10:15PM

smurgen wrote: »

One of the most depressing capitals in the 1st world.

Parts of it only. Like every other city.

There is a problem with beggars and that, but that happens everywhere.

The area around Georges, Camden Streets, and over to S William Street are magic.

There is not the same vibe from North of the Liffey though, that is for sure, but it could be great though not much is happening there really. Seems to be migrant heaven. Sorry but that's what is visible in those lovely Georgian streets North of the river now and sadly that gives out a message to potential investors. And on we go.

Plumbthedepths · 02-10-2019 10:20PM

Best view of Dublin is either from the air as you depart or the rearview mirror.

Spanish Eyes · 02-10-2019 10:21PM

Greyfox wrote: »

True and every other big city has kippy areas too and sure there's plenty of Irish places outside Dublin that are really boring. Overall Dublin is a superb place to live, boredom is impossible with a vast amount of things to do and the friendliest people in the world. I wouldn't want to live anywhere else in the world.

Great to hear someone who has a similar view on Dublin as myself.

But I am very disheartened about the Northside Georgian enclave. It is amazing but is totally off the map and neglected. I don't know why that is, it could be so much better. An untapped treasure IMV.

Incentives are now needed for the North Side. DCC don't care so I won't be holding my breath.

jay1988 · 02-10-2019 10:25PM

Likeabossboss wrote: »

It’s an overpriced, smelly, full of scumbags, traffic congested Kip. Lived there for three years and would never go back.

I don't understand how people like living there

I'm sure its still 10 times the place whatever little ****hole town you came from is.

Church on Tuesday · 02-10-2019 10:32PM

Any of the big industrial cities in England are far bigger kips than Dublin ever will be.

And yes, I'm from the country. 'Hup' and all that jazz. I guess.

hynesie08 · 02-10-2019 10:40PM

I love London, I love New York, and places like Prague and Budapest are some of the most beautiful places I've ever had the privilege of seeing.

But Dublin is the greatest place on earth and all the bitter corkonians and galwegians who will never understand what living in a city is like will never understand that investment will not create what they lack can go back to their parochial bitterness.......

Belfast is OK though, if I couldn't live in Dublin I'd gladly live there....

riclad · 02-10-2019 10:41PM

theres a new hotel being built about 20 yards from o,connell street,
the old clearys building is being turned into a building with new retail units and restaurants ,
So saying there is no investment on the north side is simply wrong.

Royale with Cheese · 02-10-2019 10:43PM

I drove through the city recently instead of taking the M50 and couldn't get over how much of a kip most of the city centre is, and I've lived here my entire life. I'm mid 30s now and avoid the city when possible, I work outside it so that's most of the time.

tonycascarino · 02-10-2019 10:46PM

Likeabossboss wrote: »

It’s an overpriced, smelly, full of scumbags, traffic congested Kip. Lived there for three years and would never go back.

I don't understand how people like living there

I'd agree. Lived there for about 8 years. Complete kip now, overpriced for what it offers, full of walking zombies and absolutely no soul to the city. If most of the jobs weren't in Dublin then very few people would actually want to go and live there.

hynesie08 · 02-10-2019 10:47PM

riclad wrote: »

theres a new hotel being built about 20 yards from o,connell street,
the old clearys building is being turned into a building with new retail units and restaurants ,
So saying there is no investment on the north side is simply wrong.

It needs the northside to fight back though, Dublins biggest earner right now is tourism, and what is there on the north side? The people on the northside need to promote it better. I'm a northsider working on the southside and I try hard to push cafes/bars/attractions on the northside, but tourists only care about the storehouse/the castle/the gaol/the 2 cathedrals etc...... How does the northside fight that???

Spanish Eyes · 02-10-2019 11:00PM

riclad wrote: »

theres a new hotel being built about 20 yards from o,connell street,
the old clearys building is being turned into a building with new retail units and restaurants ,
So saying there is no investment on the north side is simply wrong.

What about Mountjoy Square and surrounds though?

O'Connell Street is not great either really in fairness

Northside Inner City is not on the radar of DCC. Discuss!

02-10-2019 11:02PM

Dublin is a much better place than Cork, Limerick or Galway.

I did security in for just over 10 years mainly Dublin but also worked in Cork and Glasgow and I had far more trouble in both than in Dublin

Dublin has the night life and other attractions such as museums, libraries etc that the others don't.

Nearly fecking impossible to get a drink after 1am in Galway when I was there, was lucky enough to have an in law working as a barman in the Victoria so could get one there when they were working. No museums etc worth taking about.
Could get served till 3 or 4am in Dublin in a number of places with theatre licences when I was bothered heading out, or get a lock in at a couple of pubs.

Limerick had some nice spots but their O'Connell street was mainly fast food places and a good few vacant stores the last time I was there. The castle is about the only place worth visiting

Cork most of the people down there are grand, but never liked any of the places we used to end up in when down there when friends were in ucc and when working there briefly.
The old gaol is ok and ucc is good for a visit.
As for driving in it pain in the arse, Dublin is worse due to just numbers.

theguzman · 02-10-2019 11:05PM

The real pity was the Ireland did not partake in World War II Dublin would have most likely been flattened by the Luftwaffe and with Marshall Aid Plan money it would have been rebuilt as something proper and nice, Ireland would have been reunited as Churchill had basically told De Valera join the Allies and our cause and you will get the 6 counties back after WWII when we beat the Germans. Not only would Dublin have benefited but the rest of the country also.

hynesie08 · 02-10-2019 11:05PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

What about Mountjoy Square and surrounds though?

O'Connell Street is not great either really in fairness

Northside Inner City is not on the radar of DCC. Discuss!

The Gregory deal, while a fantastic thing for the families who were housed by it (my own included) has basically put the North inner city at the bottom of the list for DCC. They won't care for about 10 years till another inner city politician holds the swing vote...

Spanish Eyes · 02-10-2019 11:06PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

It needs the northside to fight back though, Dublins biggest earner right now is tourism, and what is there on the north side? The people on the northside need to promote it better. I'm a northsider working on the southside and I try hard to push cafes/bars/attractions on the northside, but tourists only care about the storehouse/the castle/the gaol/the 2 cathedrals etc...... How does the northside fight that???

You have the Blessington Basin such a hidden gem that many have never heard about really, and the Georgian buildings around Mountjoy Square and that. And I am sure many other delights. What happened to the Northside of the City? Who are your councillors?

Annoy them pronto. But in reality they should see the potential themselves. Keep at it. Best of luck.

thehamo · 02-10-2019 11:07PM

Typical s*ite different day from people who just want to belittle everything positive.

I've been to Cork City. First thing I saw was a lad getting his phone snatched from a little gourier on a bike. Also full if junkies and scum begging.

Been to Galway. Couldn't move for the amount of traffic. Literally the worst I've ever seen.

Limerick, let's not go there.

WexFord Town, falling to pieces.

Tipp Town not worth a sh*t full of scum

Drogheda. Again let's not go there

Cavan Town, full of scum. ( granted a fair few ex pat dubs in that one?)

Athlone, second highest heroine usage after Dublin in the country. Some very dodgy placed.

Longford. Avoid at all costs.

Kilkenny: nice spot in the day time. Turns to sh1t in the night.

Just a small list of the MANY places in Ireland that *could qualify as a"kip" based on the criteria laid out for Dublin by some folk.

Likeabossboss · 02-10-2019 11:09PM

jay1988 wrote: »

I'm sure its still 10 times the place whatever little ****hole town you came from is.

Kilkenny - a great place!!

02-10-2019 11:11PM

theguzman wrote: »

The real pity was the Ireland did not partake in World War II Dublin would have most likely been flattened by the Luftwaffe and with Marshall Aid Plan money it would have been rebuilt as something proper and nice, Ireland would have been reunited as Churchill had basically told De Valera join the Allies and our cause and you will get the 6 counties back after WWII when we beat the Germans. Not only would Dublin have benefited but the rest of the country also.

Yeah right, Churchill could be trusted as far as he could have been thrown.

Mad_maxx · 02-10-2019 11:11PM

theguzman wrote: »

The real pity was the Ireland did not partake in World War II Dublin would have most likely been flattened by the Luftwaffe and with Marshall Aid Plan money it would have been rebuilt as something proper and nice, Ireland would have been reunited as Churchill had basically told De Valera join the Allies and our cause and you will get the 6 counties back after WWII when we beat the Germans. Not only would Dublin have benefited but the rest of the country also.

A Bonar law type would no doubt have emerged in 1945

Spanish Eyes · 02-10-2019 11:14PM

tonycascarino wrote: »

I'd agree. Lived there for about 8 years. Complete kip now, overpriced for what it offers, full of walking zombies and absolutely no soul to the city. If most of the jobs weren't in Dublin then very few people would actually want to go and live there.

Ah you would, as do many, the craic is great and South of the river it is great.

North of the river has had no investment whatsoever sadly, apart from the IFSC etc. There is so much potential North of the river, it is baffling to me why it has been so neglected and left to rot really. I wouldn't visit after dark for sure.

hynesie08 · 02-10-2019 11:15PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

You have the Blessington Basin such a hidden gem that many have never heard about really, and the Georgian buildings around Mountjoy Square and that. And I am sure many other delights. What happened to the Northside of the City? Who are your councillors?

Annoy them pronto. But in reality they should see the potential themselves. Keep at it. Best of luck.

And the Hugh Lane gallery, and glasnevin cemetery and the Old vaughn Hotel on parnell Square and Moore Street (massively important to the rising) ****ing hell, seismology was discovered (albeit accidentally) by a lad from phibsboro.... We've got the best bars and restaurants in the city, but for some reason failte ireland think the Northside starts and ends at the GPO and the phoenix Park exists on it's own compass point and have no interest in fixing it, believe me I've tried....

Spanish Eyes · 02-10-2019 11:24PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

And the Hugh Lane gallery, and glasnevin cemetery and the Old vaughn Hotel on parnell Square and Moore Street (massively important to the rising) ****ing hell, seismology was discovered (albeit accidentally) by a lad from phibsboro.... We've got the best bars and restaurants in the city, but for some reason failte ireland think the Northside starts and ends at the GPO and the phoenix Park exists on it's own compass point and have no interest in fixing it, believe me I've tried....

Exactly. What the F happened? There is so much out there Northside.

I cannot understand it myself. Any other Capital city would have re energised it pronto. But it is seen as a no go area right now sadly.

So much potential wasted.

Greyfox · 02-10-2019 11:25PM

theguzman wrote: »

The real pity was the Ireland did not partake in World War II Dublin would have most likely been flattened by the Luftwaffe

Thank God that didn't happen. Dublin would of lost its rich history, soul and beauty

Sagats_knee · 02-10-2019 11:30PM

Dublin is a really beautiful modern city with a rich history filled with warm friendly people that unfortunately occupies the same spacetime continuum as a dystopian antisocial hellhole.

kyote00 · 02-10-2019 11:36PM

I grew in northside of Dublin in the 70s and 80s- car stealing was major pastime in finglas, cabra, ballymun and ballyfermot back then also....

Hal3000 wrote: »

This never happened before but our new revolving door justice system means these fellas couldn’t give a rats about getting caught.

Sagats_knee · 02-10-2019 11:42PM

kyote00 wrote: »

I grew in northside of Dublin in the 70s and 80s- car stealing was major pastime in finglas, cabra, ballymun and ballyfermot back then also....

Grew up in Coolock, can confirm. I remember some nights we’d have 3 robbed cars in a row doing handbrakes around the estate before being burnt out in front of someone house. I tell people about what went on there and they don’t believe me.

Bobblehats · 02-10-2019 11:45PM

The culchie next to me had a bit of a mare, woke up one night to the sound of his kids crying and drew back the curtain to find his car in flames it was like something out of mitsubishi burning. A case of mistaken identity I think but it didn’t take long for the prestige properties signpost to be go up and him back to mayo

Church on Tuesday · 02-10-2019 11:58PM

theguzman wrote: »

The real pity was the Ireland did not partake in World War II Dublin would have most likely been flattened by the Luftwaffe and with Marshall Aid Plan money it would have been rebuilt as something proper and nice, Ireland would have been reunited as Churchill had basically told De Valera join the Allies and our cause and you will get the 6 counties back after WWII when we beat the Germans. Not only would Dublin have benefited but the rest of the country also.

Yes, that would have been great craic alright.

whisky_galore · 03-10-2019 12:05AM

corner of hells wrote: »

Really has nothing much going for it ?
No Phoenix Park , no museums , no Chester Beatty library in Dublin Castle ,no Basin in Blessington Street , no Trinity College , no Kilmanhaim Jail nothing at all.

It's got a brewery tour where you can't see anything of the actual brewery.
Kind of defeats the purpose. A tour of a building nearby that's not actually the factory floor.

Dublin is Not a Kip

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