Ryan Tubridy comments about Greta Thunberg

megaten · 26-09-2019 5:26pm

Nermal wrote: »

Media: repeatedly shoves megalomaniac opinionated child in your face

Same media: what is everyone's problem with this child?

There's a million headlines every day, what set you off about this one though. Even the whole child thing isn't that unique. Wasn't that whole climate strike thing a week ago started by some teens. There was a march by primary school kids last year too. The strength of emotion is unatural for something that is fairly common.

KathleenGrant · 26-09-2019 5:39pm

grassroot1 wrote: »

People are taking what they want from this and we all see different things.
No fan of Tubridy but he saw her through the eyes of a dad and she was upset and needed comfort.
A 16 year old girl should not have to cross the world to tell us we need to change NOW
This girl has a form of autism it has nothing to do with her campaining but it must be taken into consideration when dealing with her QUOTE]

Just because she is 16 and has autism doesn't make her message any less valid.
A 16 year old girl probably should not have to but she will get a lot more attention because of her age. Countless environmentalists giving the same message have not made the impact she has.

santana75 · 26-09-2019 5:44pm

He's spot on. This "You've stolen my dreams" melodrama makes absolutely no sense. The world isnt going to end in her lifetime so she has ample time to go and live and have a fulfilling life.

megaten · 26-09-2019 5:58pm

santana75 wrote: »

He's spot on. This "You've stolen my dreams" melodrama makes absolutely no sense. The world isnt going to end in her lifetime so she has ample time to go and live and have a fulfilling life.

So what kind of speech would you prefer her to give?

James Brown · 26-09-2019 6:08pm

lola85 wrote: »

Of course they are.

But he shouldn’t be asked to apologize.

He's paid to interview Louis Walsh and Twink while asking people how they felt after great tragedy.

gormdubhgorm · 26-09-2019 6:38pm

nails1 wrote: »

I think she’s great and quite intelligent. Doubt she’ll ever have to work a minimum wage now. Nearly all the comments I’ve read on the journal and Irish websites make her out to be a drama queen and attention seeker. While every other international media site are singing her praises and encouraging her. Just shows what Irish people have become. Too afraid to stand up on our own and speak up . And whoever does is an idiot or cringeworthy. We only have the balls to do things in groups. Thanks a lot Catholic Church.

I think that post is a little misleading.
I have seen a lot of the following narrative -

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/why-is-greta-thunberg-so-triggering-for-certain-men-1.4002264

Which I find odd as it seeks to make it into a gender issue. Note this comes from the Irish Times - the paper of record!

is_that_so · 26-09-2019 7:03pm

megaten wrote: »

So what kind of speech would you prefer her to give?

This is a pretty decent example of another 16 year old at the UN.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/schoolgirl-shot-by-taliban-gives-powerful-speech-to-un-1.1461835

Edgware · 26-09-2019 7:49pm

If you were driving a car out from a driveway on to a busy road would you have total confidence in asking a 16 year old " Anything coming from the left ?"

This child has read a few books and websites but that is the level of her knowledge and expertise, which is above the average knowledge of the Green Party members in Ireland.
Turbridy is a gob****e but right on this. The people jumping on the Greta bandwagon are the same who thought Gemma Doherty would be a great President, in other words the usual populist goofballs. Some flute in Paris wears a yellow jacket and next thing our own goofballs starts wearing them at protests. F.F.S.

James Brown · 26-09-2019 8:03pm

Edgware wrote: »

If you were driving a car out from a driveway on to a busy road would you have total confidence in asking a 16 year old " Anything coming from the left ?"

This child has read a few books and websites but that is the level of her knowledge and expertise, which is above the average knowledge of the Green Party members in Ireland.
Turbridy is a gob****e but right on this. The people jumping on the Greta bandwagon are the same who thought Gemma Doherty would be a great President, in other words the usual populist goofballs. Some flute in Paris wears a yellow jacket and next thing our own goofballs starts wearing them at protests. F.F.S.

It's a kid raising climate awareness and people commending her for the effort. Nobody is asking her for tips on how to run the planet.

crossman47 · 26-09-2019 8:22pm

Matt Barrett wrote: »

It's a kid raising climate awareness .

All very commendable but at what cost to herself? That's all Tubridy was asking and I agree with him. I was horrified at the pained look on her face. A child feeling like that should be comforted and not used as a campaigner.

Rubberchikken · 26-09-2019 8:29pm

if people want to start change then put away your phones, tablets, pcs, cars, jobs, holidays, food etc.

go and live off the land foraging and hunting.

not too many eh?

and please stop this crap of her asking for her childhood back. shes 16. her childhood isnt that far back. hyperbolic nonsense.

Podge_irl · 26-09-2019 8:47pm

Edgware wrote: »

If you were driving a car out from a driveway on to a busy road would you have total confidence in asking a 16 year old " Anything coming from the left ?"

This child has read a few books and websites but that is the level of her knowledge and expertise, which is above the average knowledge of the Green Party members in Ireland.

That is her entire point. She neither claims to fully understand the science nor claims to have the solutions. What she is asking is that the overwhelming majority of climate scientists who state that this is a problem are actually listened to. She has explicitly stated that no one should ask her for details or solutions - she is trying to direct attention to the people who we should be paying attention to. Because she sees it as fundamentally quite clear that when there is an overwhelming scientific consensus on something, maybe we should listen to the scientists rather than saying "Newton was full of ****e" and jumping out a window.

nthclare · 26-09-2019 9:45pm

megaten wrote: »

Why suggest she's going to have a nervous breakdown then? I don't understand why some kid is inspiring such viciousness.

People are concerned about the kid getting too attached to what she has no control over.

I myself wouldn't like my 18 year old son to become a lefty sjw or alt right looney.
Of if he did I'd give him moral support and respect his conviction etc
But would have preferred him to be more moderate and have common sense.

Thankfully he's moderate like myself and has common sense, his class mate's slag the **** out of alt right and sjws...

megaten · 26-09-2019 10:18pm

nthclare wrote: »

People are concerned about the kid getting too attached to what she has no control over.

I myself wouldn't like my 18 year old son to become a lefty sjw or alt right looney.
Of if he did I'd give him moral support and respect his conviction etc
But would have preferred him to be more moderate and have common sense.

Thankfully he's moderate like myself and has common sense, his class mate's slag the **** out of alt right and sjws...

I find that impossible to believe to be honest.

Also your son is probably just indulging you.

nthclare · 26-09-2019 10:25pm

megaten wrote: »

I find that impossible to believe to be honest.

Well anything a possible megaten.

You see you've different parents, some are responsible and others are just plain mad.

My parents wouldn't have let me cross the lake in a safe raft in order to make a statement and miss school for the sake of fame or notoriety, let alone cross the ocean...at 16

What if a huge swell built up with an onshore hurricane, would you think it's responsible then ?

26-09-2019 10:29pm

nthclare wrote: »

People are concerned about the kid getting too attached to what she has no control over.

I myself wouldn't like my 18 year old son to become a lefty sjw or alt right looney.
Of if he did I'd give him moral support and respect his conviction etc
But would have preferred him to be more moderate and have common sense.

Thankfully he's moderate like myself and has common sense, his class mate's slag the **** out of alt right and sjws...

The ones who stole Greta’s childhood are the ones who are feeding her fears. She’s too vulnerable to be used in this shameful shameful way.

nthclare · 26-09-2019 10:38pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The ones who stole Greta’s childhood are the ones who are feeding her fears. She’s too vulnerable to be used in this shameful shameful way.

I can see where you're coming from, I've an open mind.
But the kid should be out enjoying herself and doing what kid's do.

In my day it was the Russians are going to wipe us out, the ozone layer will open up and fry us...

Listening to some guy in a dress telling us we'll burn in hell if we have a ****, or telling us there's a sky fairy watching our every move, and hears every thing.

We were made to believe some holy picture was alive and our parents filling our heads about polytheism and lying about spirit's and demon's etc

I spent half my life worrying about some dude with a pitch fork ramming it up my arse for all eternity....
I'd probably enjoy it now tbh as long as it's turned around...

Oh and the Gulf war and Nostradamus was another fear...

nthclare · 26-09-2019 10:42pm

megaten wrote: »

I find that impossible to believe to be honest.

Also your son is probably just indulging you.

can you explain the second sentence in layman's terms, oh sorry laypersons terms ?

megaten · 27-09-2019 11:02am

nthclare wrote: »

can you explain the second sentence in layman's terms, oh sorry laypersons terms ?

I mean he's probably just saying it for the sake of it? I wouldn't worry about it though.

nthclare · 27-09-2019 11:09am

megaten wrote: »

I mean he's probably just saying it for the sake of it? I wouldn't worry about it though.

i don't think so because I brought himself and his philosophy student friend on s fishing trip during the summer and they're big into the whole sociology and social sciences subject matter.
Big fan's of Jordan Peterson.

It's ok you don't have to be doing my son's thinking for him.

I know him well enough

ancapailldorcha · 29-09-2019 5:20pm

Serious discussion only please. Posts deleted.

James Brown · 30-09-2019 3:06pm

crossman47 wrote: »

All very commendable but at what cost to herself? That's all Tubridy was asking and I agree with him. I was horrified at the pained look on her face. A child feeling like that should be comforted and not used as a campaigner.

She seems to be loving it. What Tubbs said was dismissive and condescending.
He wouldn't have the neck to say same about malala yousafzai.

Mango Joe · 30-09-2019 3:11pm

SNIP. No insults please.

30-09-2019 3:38pm

Matt Barrett wrote: »

She seems to be loving it. What Tubbs said was dismissive and condescending.
He wouldn't have the neck to say same about malala yousafzai.

I beg to disagree. He spoke as a parent. I fear for that poor girl. Such fear and despair shouldn’t be played on. She’s very vulnerable and needs caring for.

James Brown · 30-09-2019 3:57pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I beg to disagree. He spoke as a parent. I fear for that poor girl. Such fear and despair shouldn’t be played on. She’s very vulnerable and needs caring for.

I don't believe he did. I think he was trying to get beyond the trend. He's an old curmudgeon since he began broadcasting. I think he's looking to be noticed.
Did he say the same about malala yousafzai? I think it's more the topic and current trend than her age. It's cool to knock the kid.

30-09-2019 4:13pm

Matt Barrett wrote: »

I don't believe he did. I think he was trying to get beyond the trend. He's an old curmudgeon since he began broadcasting. I think he's looking to be noticed.
Did he say the same about malala yousafzai? I think it's more the topic and current trend than her age. It's cool to knock the kid.

There is NO comparison between Greta and Malala. Malala doesn’t have Asperger’s syndrome. Malala was the victim of an attempted murder.

I don’t think Ryan was in the least concerned with the topic, more with a vulnerable child being exploited and visibly upset when talking about her fears for the future.

James Brown · 30-09-2019 4:26pm

Deleted User wrote: »

There is NO comparison between Greta and Malala. Malala doesn’t have Asperger’s syndrome. Malala was the victim of an attempted murder.

I don’t think Ryan was in the least concerned with the topic, more with a vulnerable child being exploited and visibly upset when talking about her fears for the future.

So people with Asperger's shouldn't be treated like others?
Malala was a kid doing the rounds. The only difference was one was talking about education, the other environment.

seamus · 01-10-2019 8:24am

Deleted User wrote: »

There is NO comparison between Greta and Malala. Malala doesn’t have Asperger’s syndrome.

Right, there you go. The difference is the Asperger's.

So Ryan was just being insanely ignorant. Case closed.

You're displaying the same ignorance. Feigning concern for her welfare. Calling her vulnerable and exploited. You don't know that. You have no idea if she is. You're making assumptions that you absolutely cannot verify. Having Asperger's doesn't make one vulnerable, or disabled or ill.

Ryan Tubridy comments about Greta Thunberg

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