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Beware the man who tells you he likes brains over beauty

  • 25-09-2019 12:06PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,845 ✭✭✭


    So it looks like friend to all men Tanya Sweeney is at it again today. She is clearly right about men, because she has two masters degrees don't you know.

    Anyway this time she has issues with men who claim to be attracted to intelligent women or attracted to funny women. We have ulterior motives you see.

    Her issue seems to stem from English musician and producer Mark Ronson who recently self identified as 'sapiosexual', which Tanya says is 'a term that describes people who date across the gender spectrum and find brains and intellect the most attractive trait in a potential partner.' Who, incidentally, would would find Tanya 'irresistible'.
    Any time a man says openly, 'I love curvy women', he often means he likes curvy women, albeit only up to a point, and usually within the parameters of 'socially accepted' curves. As in, Christina Hendricks, hourglass, huge-boobs-and-tiny-waist curves. Similarly, I've heard many men say time and time again that they love, like are really turned on by, funny women. This too, is absolute bunkum. They don't like women to be too funny, or (heaven forfend) funnier than they are. What they usually mean is, 'I like a woman to laugh at my jokes and will be sound and not uptight enough that they will put up with my sh**'.

    Likewise, 'I'm attracted to nerdy women' can be loosely translated into 'I want a hot girl who also knows about Doctor Who, so I won't bore them half to death when I go on about it'.

    In fairness, she does make the effort at the end to point out that even though she says 'men' she doesn't mean all men and gives us the lovely hashtag #NotAllMen
    Incidentally, I feel the need to add a massive #NOT ALL MEN addendum here, as there are several guys who take serious umbrage at being tarred with a great big misandrist brush when I describe some of the men I've encountered.

    These guys are especially annoyed given that they are perfectly woke, feminist citizens who've never done wrong by a single woman at all, ever. In my experience though, the men who shout #NotAllMen the loudest can often be misogyny's worst offenders. A real male feminist knows full well what women have had to put up with from some men, and wouldn't dream of getting in our way if we call out such bad behaviour. Trust me when I say, we hear your #NotAllMen bleating. Don't think we don't see you.

    Charming!

    Sounds like we have another Una Mullally or Louise O'Neil on our hands.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,638 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I only make passes at girls with glasses.

    She probably should have just stopped the article at "Beware the man" ... everything after that is just pretext.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Opinion piece writer in talking bollocks shocker!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    How long before this is the fault of the feminists?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭Wayne Jarvis


    How long before this is the fault of the feminists?
    Less than 2 minutes.


    This is the fault of feminists.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 31,263 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    The Indo are desperate for clicks again. You know what to do, folks - just ignore them and they'll go away.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,016 ✭✭✭tylercheribini


    All men are bastards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    All men are bastards.

    #NotAllMenAreBastards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭Mundo7976


    All men are bastards.

    Shouldn’t have tried them all then!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,016 ✭✭✭tylercheribini


    #NotAllMenAreBastards

    #bastardstimesup #mebastard


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,722 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    My favourite part of the story was when she stared talking about men.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,016 ✭✭✭tylercheribini


    I only identify as a male when we are sound.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 272 ✭✭begsbyOnaTrain


    Damn men. Having sexual preferences to which I don't agree.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭Woke Hogan


    She sounds like one of those incels.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 772 ✭✭✭the dark phantom


    Men need to man up, its what hot women like.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭Wayne Jarvis


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    I only make passes at girls with glasses...
    I only make passes at girls with big asses..... which are large masses....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    I've been trying to get my head around #notallmen

    I thought tall men would be sought after :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭Woke Hogan


    If you reversed every single one of the pronouns she used in that article, including the ones referring to the author, it would come across as the most incendiary hate-piece about women ever written by a man.

    Some people seriously need to realise that the opposite of mysogyny is not misandry. And she needs to cop on to herself and stop blaming men because she's a minger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭randd1


    I once had the choice of two girls to go to at the counter of a shop for help.

    One I noticed was very helpful to other customers and very friendly. The other I noticed was very knowledgeable about the products on show, and gave great advice.

    So naturally, I went to the one with the biggest tits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭randd1


    Woke Hogan wrote: »
    She sounds like one of those incels.

    Infemcels


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭Wayne Jarvis


    randd1 wrote: »
    I once had the choice of two girls to go to at the counter of a shop for help.

    One I noticed was very helpful to other customers and very friendly. The other I noticed was very knowledgeable about the products on show, and gave great advice.

    So naturally, I went to the one with the biggest tits.
    #ALLMEN


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  • Posts: 6,045 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    All men are bastards.

    #MeToo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,845 ✭✭✭py2006


    Woke Hogan wrote: »
    If you reversed every single one of the pronouns she used in that article, including the ones referring to the author, it would come across as the most incendiary hate-piece about women ever written by a man.

    Some people seriously need to realise that the opposite of mysogyny is not misandry. And she needs to cop on to herself and stop blaming men because she's a minger.

    No?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    randd1 wrote: »
    I once had the choice of two girls to go to at the counter of a shop for help.

    One I noticed was very helpful to other customers and very friendly. The other I noticed was very knowledgeable about the products on show, and gave great advice.

    So naturally, I went to the one with the biggest tits.

    Summarising Proust walt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭Woke Hogan


    py2006 wrote: »
    No?
    No. They're two different things.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus


    In fairness most newspaper opinion writers of any political stripe are gobby attention seeking morons who carve out an audience of the like minded with rubbish like this.

    I'm old enough to remember when it was people like Kevin Myers successfully doing it on the other side of the spectrum with his "hilarious" dismissals of imaginary feminists he named "Phyllopia Whinge".

    There are exceptions like Lucy Kellaway in the Financial Times. But they're increasingly rare and you're unlikely to get them on some click chasing rag circling the drain like the Indo.

    Ms Sweeney's just another in a long line of talentless chancers spewing out whatever bileful prose is currently acceptable to the zeitgeist. Just like the rest of them I'm sure she sees herself as "telling it like it is".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭nkl12xtw5goz70


    py2006 wrote: »
    Anyway this time she has issues with men who claim to be attracted to intelligent women or attracted to funny women. We have ulterior motives you see.

    Sadly, most intelligent men who appreciate intelligent women will be unlikely to read her trenchant analysis, given that she chose to publish it in the Indo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,783 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    CrankyHaus wrote: »
    In fairness most newspaper opinion writers of any political stripe are gobby attention seeking morons who carve out an audience of the like minded with rubbish like this.

    I'm old enough to remember when it was people like Kevin Myers successfully doing it on the other side of the spectrum with his "hilarious" dismissals of imaginary feminists he named "Phyllopia Whinge".

    There are exceptions like Lucy Kellaway in the Financial Times. But they're increasingly rare and you're unlikely to get them on some click chasing rag circling the drain like the Indo.

    Ms Sweeney's just another in a long line of talentless chancers spewing out whatever bileful prose is currently acceptable to the zeitgeist. Just like the rest of them I'm sure she sees herself as "telling it like it is".

    Just leave out the "In fairness" bit at the start, and let other people decided if you are being fair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    I like girls....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,377 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Likewise, 'I'm attracted to nerdy women' can be loosely translated into 'I want a hot girl who also knows about Doctor Who, so I won't bore them half to death when I go on about it'.

    Men in "I'd like a partner I share something in common with so we can have conversations" shocker.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Woke Hogan wrote: »
    She sounds like one of those incels.

    She has a kid so not an incel.

    But if you flipped this article and a man wrote that women, #notallwomen mind, talk bollocks about wanting a nice, kind man that respects them but really want either a rich CEO type that looks like Brad Pitt or a Bad Boy that treats them like **** all the time but they still "can't get enough", you'd be labelled every pejorative under the sun.


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