Beware the man who tells you he likes brains over beauty

py2006

So it looks like friend to all men Tanya Sweeney is at it again today. She is clearly right about men, because she has two masters degrees don't you know.

Anyway this time she has issues with men who claim to be attracted to intelligent women or attracted to funny women. We have ulterior motives you see.

Her issue seems to stem from English musician and producer Mark Ronson who recently self identified as 'sapiosexual', which Tanya says is 'a term that describes people who date across the gender spectrum and find brains and intellect the most attractive trait in a potential partner.' Who, incidentally, would would find Tanya 'irresistible'.

Any time a man says openly, 'I love curvy women', he often means he likes curvy women, albeit only up to a point, and usually within the parameters of 'socially accepted' curves. As in, Christina Hendricks, hourglass, huge-boobs-and-tiny-waist curves. Similarly, I've heard many men say time and time again that they love, like are really turned on by, funny women. This too, is absolute bunkum. They don't like women to be too funny, or (heaven forfend) funnier than they are. What they usually mean is, 'I like a woman to laugh at my jokes and will be sound and not uptight enough that they will put up with my sh**'.

Likewise, 'I'm attracted to nerdy women' can be loosely translated into 'I want a hot girl who also knows about Doctor Who, so I won't bore them half to death when I go on about it'.

In fairness, she does make the effort at the end to point out that even though she says 'men' she doesn't mean all men and gives us the lovely hashtag #NotAllMen

Incidentally, I feel the need to add a massive #NOT ALL MEN addendum here, as there are several guys who take serious umbrage at being tarred with a great big misandrist brush when I describe some of the men I've encountered.

These guys are especially annoyed given that they are perfectly woke, feminist citizens who've never done wrong by a single woman at all, ever. In my experience though, the men who shout #NotAllMen the loudest can often be misogyny's worst offenders. A real male feminist knows full well what women have had to put up with from some men, and wouldn't dream of getting in our way if we call out such bad behaviour. Trust me when I say, we hear your #NotAllMen bleating. Don't think we don't see you.

Charming!

Sounds like we have another Una Mullally or Louise O'Neil on our hands.

odyssey06

I only make passes at girls with glasses.

She probably should have just stopped the article at "Beware the man" ... everything after that is just pretext.

ohnonotgmail

Opinion piece writer in talking bollocks shocker!

jam_mac_jam

How long before this is the fault of the feminists?

Wayne Jarvis

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

How long before this is the fault of the feminists?

Less than 2 minutes.


This is the fault of feminists.

Insect Overlord

The Indo are desperate for clicks again. You know what to do, folks - just ignore them and they'll go away.

tylercheribini

All men are bastards.

Ulysses Gaze

tylercheribini wrote: »

All men are bastards.

#NotAllMenAreBastards

Mundo7976

tylercheribini wrote: »

All men are bastards.

Shouldn’t have tried them all then!

tylercheribini

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

#NotAllMenAreBastards

#bastardstimesup #mebastard

antodeco

My favourite part of the story was when she stared talking about men.

tylercheribini

I only identify as a male when we are sound.

begsbyOnaTrain

Damn men. Having sexual preferences to which I don't agree.

Woke Hogan

She sounds like one of those incels.

the dark phantom

Men need to man up, its what hot women like.

Wayne Jarvis

odyssey06 wrote: »

I only make passes at girls with glasses...

I only make passes at girls with big asses..... which are large masses....

Sky King

I've been trying to get my head around #notallmen

I thought tall men would be sought after

Woke Hogan

If you reversed every single one of the pronouns she used in that article, including the ones referring to the author, it would come across as the most incendiary hate-piece about women ever written by a man.

Some people seriously need to realise that the opposite of mysogyny is not misandry. And she needs to cop on to herself and stop blaming men because she's a minger.

randd1

I once had the choice of two girls to go to at the counter of a shop for help.

One I noticed was very helpful to other customers and very friendly. The other I noticed was very knowledgeable about the products on show, and gave great advice.

So naturally, I went to the one with the biggest tits.

randd1

Woke Hogan wrote: »

She sounds like one of those incels.

Infemcels

Wayne Jarvis

randd1 wrote: »

I once had the choice of two girls to go to at the counter of a shop for help.

One I noticed was very helpful to other customers and very friendly. The other I noticed was very knowledgeable about the products on show, and gave great advice.

So naturally, I went to the one with the biggest tits.

#ALLMEN

tylercheribini

tylercheribini wrote: »

All men are bastards.

#MeToo

py2006

Woke Hogan wrote: »

If you reversed every single one of the pronouns she used in that article, including the ones referring to the author, it would come across as the most incendiary hate-piece about women ever written by a man.

Some people seriously need to realise that the opposite of mysogyny is not misandry. And she needs to cop on to herself and stop blaming men because she's a minger.

No?

ohnonotgmail

randd1 wrote: »

I once had the choice of two girls to go to at the counter of a shop for help.

One I noticed was very helpful to other customers and very friendly. The other I noticed was very knowledgeable about the products on show, and gave great advice.

So naturally, I went to the one with the biggest tits.

Summarising Proust walt.

Woke Hogan

py2006 wrote: »

No?

No. They're two different things.

CrankyHaus

In fairness most newspaper opinion writers of any political stripe are gobby attention seeking morons who carve out an audience of the like minded with rubbish like this.

I'm old enough to remember when it was people like Kevin Myers successfully doing it on the other side of the spectrum with his "hilarious" dismissals of imaginary feminists he named "Phyllopia Whinge".

There are exceptions like Lucy Kellaway in the Financial Times. But they're increasingly rare and you're unlikely to get them on some click chasing rag circling the drain like the Indo.

Ms Sweeney's just another in a long line of talentless chancers spewing out whatever bileful prose is currently acceptable to the zeitgeist. Just like the rest of them I'm sure she sees herself as "telling it like it is".

nkl12xtw5goz70

py2006 wrote: »

Anyway this time she has issues with men who claim to be attracted to intelligent women or attracted to funny women. We have ulterior motives you see.

Sadly, most intelligent men who appreciate intelligent women will be unlikely to read her trenchant analysis, given that she chose to publish it in the Indo.

dxhound2005

CrankyHaus wrote: »

In fairness most newspaper opinion writers of any political stripe are gobby attention seeking morons who carve out an audience of the like minded with rubbish like this.

I'm old enough to remember when it was people like Kevin Myers successfully doing it on the other side of the spectrum with his "hilarious" dismissals of imaginary feminists he named "Phyllopia Whinge".

There are exceptions like Lucy Kellaway in the Financial Times. But they're increasingly rare and you're unlikely to get them on some click chasing rag circling the drain like the Indo.

Ms Sweeney's just another in a long line of talentless chancers spewing out whatever bileful prose is currently acceptable to the zeitgeist. Just like the rest of them I'm sure she sees herself as "telling it like it is".

Just leave out the "In fairness" bit at the start, and let other people decided if you are being fair.

punisher5112

I like girls....

Stark

Likewise, 'I'm attracted to nerdy women' can be loosely translated into 'I want a hot girl who also knows about Doctor Who, so I won't bore them half to death when I go on about it'.

Men in "I'd like a partner I share something in common with so we can have conversations" shocker.

Ulysses Gaze

Woke Hogan wrote: »

She sounds like one of those incels.

She has a kid so not an incel.

But if you flipped this article and a man wrote that women, #notallwomen mind, talk bollocks about wanting a nice, kind man that respects them but really want either a rich CEO type that looks like Brad Pitt or a Bad Boy that treats them like **** all the time but they still "can't get enough", you'd be labelled every pejorative under the sun.

riffmongous

I can half see what she is trying to get at (although it's hardly a shocker that if someone would want a partner who is intelligent they'd want them to be attractive too), but it's really written in a hackle raising way, to really try and be offensive to men in general. And then the bit at the end is a classic, if you don't like what I said you must be a mysoginist.. awful ****. The type of guys who are like she describes are a tiny minority of men as far as I can see, if she's meeting them more often the she's the one doing something wrong

TNETENNBA

It's cute when a genuinely laughs at one of my jokes and his face lights up. But I'm afraid to tell a man he's cute in case I come across as a creep. #struggleofanaveragelookingwoman

JohnnyFlash

A chick with huge norks and plenty of brains is a class combination.

odyssey06

'I want a hot girl who also knows about Doctor Who, so I won't bore them half to death when I go on about it'.

Also, important that the girl agrees that Doctor Who is best played by a male actor, and girls should stick to their proper place as companions in distress.

mikhail

Woke Hogan wrote: »

She sounds like one of those incels.

She really does.

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

She has a kid so not an incel.

Sounds like doesn't mean is. If the article is her opinion (and not some cynical click bait - which is almost worse), she has exactly the sort of chip on her shoulder as the MGTOW crowd.

But if you flipped this article and a man wrote that women, #notallwomen mind, talk bollocks about wanting a nice, kind man that respects them but really want either a rich CEO type that looks like Brad Pitt or a Bad Boy that treats them like **** all the time but they still "can't get enough", you'd be labelled every pejorative under the sun.

And rightly so.

EmmetSpiceland

odyssey06 wrote: »

'I want a hot girl who also knows about Doctor Who, so I won't bore them half to death when I go on about it'.

Also, important that the girl agrees that Doctor Who is best played by a male actor, and girls should stick to their proper place as companions in distress.

I, personally, wouldn’t mind being a “companion in distress” for Jodie Whittaker.

Earthhorse

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

I, personally, wouldn’t mind being a “companion in distress” for Jodie Whittaker.

A woman doctor and a woman assistant?

Dunno, sounds a bit sexist to me.

TheValeyard

I'm pretty sure reading those kinds of opinion pieces will give you brain damage.

banie01

odyssey06 wrote: »

I only make passes at girls with glasses.

FYP

Earthhorse

TheValeyard wrote: »

I'm pretty sure reading those kinds of opinion pieces will give you brain damage.

At which point, you can turn your hand to writing them.

EmmetSpiceland

Earthhorse wrote: »

A woman doctor and a woman assistant?

Dunno, sounds a bit sexist to me.

I am not a woman, E.

Earthhorse

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

I am not a woman, E.

Sure you're not, Emmet, sure you're not.

jam_mac_jam

This is such bollox of course there are men that like brains. A lot of intelligent men like intelligent women, its nice to have something to talk about.

You also can have brains and be good looking as well. Stupid woman.

odyssey06

Ok so we know that Tanya Sweeney was out and about, and some guy tried it on with the "I prefer brains over beauty" line... then what happened?

I demand closure on this anecdote.

Reviews and Books Galore

1. EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

   I am not a woman, E.

I am quite shocked tbh.

randd1

odyssey06 wrote: »

Ok so we know that Tanya Sweeney was out and about, and some guy tried it on with the "I prefer brains over beauty" line... then what happened?

I demand closure on this anecdote.

If she's really ugly it might work.

Dr. Bre

All men are from Mars so Mars bastards

banie01

odyssey06 wrote: »

Ok so we know that Tanya Sweeney was out and about, and some guy tried it on with the "I prefer brains over beauty" line... then what happened?

I demand closure on this anecdote.

Obviously he moved on when she was too clever for him and then he rode the arse off her pretty friend with a terrible leaving cert and great tits

Wayne Jarvis

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

This is such bollox of course there are men that like brains. A lot of intelligent men like intelligent women, its nice to have something to talk about.

You also can have brains and be good looking as well. Stupid woman.

She is not stupid. She said herself she has two master's (sic) degrees and she has read Ulysses.

odyssey06

Guy Person wrote: »

She is not stupid. She said herself she has two master's (sic) degrees and she has read Ulysses.

In the original Latin, no doubt.