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MOST HATED PERSON IN IRISH HISTORY?

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  • #32
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    Ipso wrote: »
    Shirn what’s the difference, they were all prods anyway.

    Some one needs to go back to school I think.

    Protestantism did not even exist for another 400 years.

    Ah here. It was an attempt at humour. Mods, can we have comic sans font for special purposes?


  • #33
    partyguinness
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,202 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    Ipso wrote: »
    I think they still considered themselves a class separate from the native Ingerlish.


    Yeah but you see the vast vast majority of Brits honest to God could not tell you the first thing about Oliver Cromwell let alone his connection with Ireland.

    You see when your history is full of murderous fcukers that went all around the world, where do start in teaching it? Answer: you just don't bother in the first place.

    Living here I genuinely mean that.

    Don't forget Frances Drake- he was another bad ****er.


  • #34
    yosser hughes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,064 ✭✭✭yosser hughes


    Eamon de Valera or Charlie Haughey. We're still living with the culture of corruption they created and propagated.
    After them, Gerry Adams


  • #35
    Gregor Samsa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


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  • #36
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    yosser hughes wrote: »
    Eamon de Valera or Charlie Haughey. We're still living with the culture of corruption they created and propagated.
    After them, Gerry Adams

    Adams was a freedom fighter. Much like Collins or Pearse.


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  • #37
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    partyguinness wrote: »
    Ipso wrote: »
    I think they still considered themselves a class separate from the native Ingerlish.


    Yeah but you see the vast vast majority of Brits honest to God could not tell you the first thing about Oliver Cromwell let alone his connection with Ireland.

    You see when your history is full of murderous fcukers that went all around the world, where do start in teaching it? Answer: you just don't bother in the first place.

    Living here I genuinely mean that.

    Don't forget Frances Drake- he was another bad ****er.

    I find it hilarious how people fawn over the royal family. Their ancestors slaughtered each other to control land, glorified Milwall hooligans with fancy titles.


  • #38
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    Ipso wrote: »
    Ah here. It was an attempt at humour. Mods, can we have comic sans font for special purposes?

    Only if you can tell me who Richard De Clare was without googling it?

    He was Catholic btw , non British and his burial ground is open to spurious debate.


  • #39
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Wayne O'Donoghue . The man who killed little Robert Holohan in Cork.


  • #40
    Wayne Jarvis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭Wayne Jarvis


    Dravokivich wrote: »
    Hope you dont feel bad about being wrong.
    I don't, sure why would anyone? :)


  • #41
    Gregor Samsa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    Only if you can tell me who Richard De Clare was without googling it?

    He’s the guy who invented twoies of cider.


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  • #42
    MayoSalmon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,691 ✭✭✭MayoSalmon


    smelly sock wrote:
    Adams was a freedom fighter. Much like Collins or Pearse.

    Lol


  • #43
    partyguinness
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,202 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    Only if you can tell me who Richard De Clare was without googling it?

    He was Catholic btw , non British and his burial ground is open to spurious debate.


    Oh I remember this from a tour of Christchruch. Connected with Strongbow I think- I was hungover.


  • #44
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    Ipso wrote: »
    Ah here. It was an attempt at humour. Mods, can we have comic sans font for special purposes?

    Only if you can tell me who Richard De Clare was without googling it?

    He was Catholic btw , non British and his burial ground is open to spurious debate.

    Norman lord (descended for the victors at hastings who had some connection to the English throne based a possible promise made by Edward the confessor to William the bastid).
    Got invited to help with an internal gaelic struggle, married into Leister gaelicdom, became more Irish than the Irish themselves etc
    More came after, Burkes, Joyces etc
    I confess I have little knowledge on the detail of the period. I welcome recommendations for any good books on the subject/time period.


  • #45
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 14,242 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ipso wrote: »
    I think they still considered themselves a class separate from the native Ingerlish.

    But William Marshal 1st Earl of Pembroke, son in law of Strongbow, definitely considered himself English. And the Normans werent even a cohesive group of people in thr first place, so that's no surprise.


  • #46
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    Ipso wrote: »
    I think they still considered themselves a class separate from the native Ingerlish.

    But William Marshal 1st Earl of Pembroke, son in law of Strongbow, definitely considered himself English. And the Normans werent even a cohesive group of people in thr first place, so that's no surprise.

    Was this time frame also post the White Ship, so the Normans were in their last legs?


  • #47
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    Ipso wrote: »
    I think they still considered themselves a class separate from the native Ingerlish.

    But William Marshal 1st Earl of Pembroke, son in law of Strongbow, definitely considered himself English. And the Normans werent even a cohesive group of people in thr first place, so that's no surprise.

    Was this time frame also post the White Ship, so the Normans were on their last legs?


  • #48
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    Gregor Samsa wrote: »
    He’s the guy who invented twoies of cider.

    That was his cousin I reckon. They all drank ale then anyway, unless you were in Clonmel.


  • #49
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,801 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Ipso wrote: »
    Norman lord (descended for the victors at hastings who had some connection to the English throne based a possible promise made by Edward the confessor to William the bastid).
    Got invited to help with an internal gaelic struggle, married into Leister gaelicdom, became more Irish than the Irish themselves etc
    More came after, Burkes, Joyces etc
    I confess I have little knowledge on the detail of the period. I welcome recommendations for any good books on the subject/time period.

    Is he any relation of Thierry Henri?


  • #50
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,454 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Brian Cowan


  • #51
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    I can't believe no one mentioned Ryan Tubridy yet, what is wrong everyone these days?


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  • #52
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,801 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    I can't believe no one mentioned Ryan Tubridy yet, what is wrong everyone these days?

    Are you putting him ahead of Bono?


  • #53
    razorblunt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Brian Ormonde.

    Brian McFadden.


  • #54
    hynesie08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    Michael collins, tan loving bastard who had several ofhis own men killed under his determination of "treason" and sold out the 6 counties because he had no workable plan. Best thing de valera ever did was have a bullet put between his eyes......... (allegedly)


  • #55
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    razorblunt wrote: »
    Brian Ormonde.

    Brian McFadden.

    Yesssss , now we are really starting.

    More! More! More!


  • #56
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,801 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    Yesssss , now we are really starting.

    More! More! More!

    Brian Boru.


  • #57
    thefasteriwalk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 565 ✭✭✭thefasteriwalk


    de Valera. William Martin Murphy.


  • #58
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    Brian Boru.

    Brian Lenihan.


  • #59
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Seanie fitz
    David drumm


  • #60
    Gregor Samsa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    Yesssss , now we are really starting.

    More! More! More!

    Brian Dobson
    Brian Kerr
    Brian Dennehy
    Brian from Family Guy
    The Life of Brian

    Jesus, I hate Brians!


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  • #61
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,801 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Denis O'Brien.


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