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MOST HATED PERSON IN IRISH HISTORY?

  • 24-09-2019 08:19PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭


    Who is it?

    Diarmuid Mac Murrough

    He invited the English to Ireland in 1169 after losing his throne as King of Leinster. King Henry II took him up on it and the Irish have been trying to get rid of the British ever since.

    Oliver Cromwell

    He decided to use Ireland as his own killing field to advance his political career in Britain. Murdered and deported tens of thousands of Irish as slaves.



    Charles Trevelyan

    Britain’s overseer of Ireland during the Great Hunger. He decided that economic policy and ‘not coddling the poor’ was more important than millions starving.



    Lord Lucan

    The worst landlord in Ireland during the Great Hunger. He turned 10,000 people out of their homes in Ballinrobe in Mayo alone. Thousands starved to death as he ruthlessly cleared the land.


    Captain William O’Shea

    He decided to divorce Kitty O’Shea despite knowing it would bring down Charles Stewart Parnell, who was on the verge of achieving Home Rule. He was egged on by British interests to do so. Despite the fact that O’Shea and Kitty were separated when she met Parnell, the resulting Victorian era scandal took down Ireland’s "Uncrowned King."

    David Lloyd George

    Also known as ‘the Welsh Wizard,’ this British Prime Minister split the Irish delegation during the treaty talks and insisted on Irish partition and keeping his unionist backers happy at all costs.



    Winston Churchill
    A young Winston Churchill, responsible for the Black and Tans.

    A young Winston Churchill, responsible for the Black and Tans.

    He invented the Black and Tans and was responsible for sending them to Ireland to force the Irish rebellion into surrender.


    General Eoin O’Duffy

    In the 1930s, he started the Blueshirts, which was the Irish equivalent of the Nazis. He raised a brigade to fight with Franco in the Spanish Civil War and was an admirer of Hitler.


    Margaret Thatcher

    She allowed ten IRA prisoners, led by Bobby Sands, to starve to death in 1981. The bloody-handed move backfired when Sands was elected as MP and kick-started the Sinn Fein political rise a month before his death.


    Colonel Derek Wilford

    He was Parachute Regiment commander in Derry in 1972 when he unleashed the paras to fire on unarmed civilians on 'Bloody Sunday.' 26 were shot and 14 died. Subsequently known as “the Butcher of the Bogside.”


    I copied this from below link but it was lacking an after hours poll!

    https://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/most-hated-people-irish-history

    The most hated person in Irish history 452 votes

    Diarmuid Mac Murrough
    65% 297 votes
    Oliver Cromwell
    0% 4 votes
    Charles Trevelyan
    25% 113 votes
    Lord Lucan
    1% 9 votes
    Captain William O’Shea
    0% 2 votes
    David Lloyd George
    0% 0 votes
    Winston Churchill
    0% 1 vote
    General Eoin O’Duffy
    0% 1 vote
    Margaret Thatcher
    0% 2 votes
    Colonel Derek Wilford
    5% 23 votes


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,786 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Ahh, the League of Basterds



    No poll?


    I'd vote Cromwell.



    Edit : cheers for the poll

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Ruraldweller56


    Al Porter. Hozier. Conor mcgregor. Jennifer from Jennifer and Eamonn. Alison Spittle.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭Wayne Jarvis


    My "hilarious" After Hours answer is me, Guy Person. A total fúcking wánker.




    My serious actual answer is the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,801 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    It's the ones you never heard of were the real villains.


  • Posts: 14,242 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Jacob Rees Mogg should be on that list. He would probably come a close second to Cromwell these days. Many of the others can probably be excused in different ways, eg the Normans or their successors would eventually have come here anyway, and would have colonised us more comprehensively.

    If anything, the Normans helped to modernise the country and then swiftly assimilated. I personally have no hard feelings towards Diarmuid McMurrough for that reason.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,396 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Larry Murphy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Finally, another Brit bashing thread! Its been a week at least some must have been getting twitchy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Lottie Ryan

    Close the thread :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,801 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Lottie Ryan

    Close the thread :-)

    We needed that for a bit of gender balance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,143 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    img_7500.jpg?w=922&h=1024


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Cromwell was a proud republican


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Ehm... It was the Normans, not English in 1169.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,801 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Cromwell was a proud republican

    Some unkind Dundalk person said his biggest mistake was leaving a man and woman alive in Drogheda.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    McMurrough being the worse is laughable, Gaelic Ireland was very fragmented. After the Spanish invasion of Kinsale it took the O’Neills about six weeks to march down (and during that six weeks they plundered neighbouring chieftans) and when the O’Donnels marched down they plundered so much on their way that their survivors of the battle were attacked on the march home.
    Then there were the locals who sold horses to the Spanish at high prices and then stole them back.
    I’d vote for the people who bailed out Anglo and the muppets who thought we could buy and sell over inflated sh1t houses to each other for infinity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭Panthro


    Charles Trevelyan, complete pr!ck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Ehm... It was the Normans, not English in 1169.

    Shirn what’s the difference, they were all prods anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭Wayne Jarvis


    Ehm... It was the Normans, not English in 1169.
    People who start off correcting someone by saying Ehm... were definitely prefects in secondary school.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Ipso wrote: »
    Shirn what’s the difference, they were all prods anyway.

    Protestant Religion wasn't formed until nearly 500 years later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭Sheeps


    Thierry Henry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,289 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Bono


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    John Connors should be a contender.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Guy Person wrote: »
    People who start off correcting someone by saying Ehm... were definitely prefects in secondary school.

    Hope you dont feel bad about being wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,202 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    I'm sorry but Wim Kieft has to be right up there.

    And Pascal Pape for trying to finger SOB in 2015.


  • Posts: 14,242 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ehm... It was the Normans, not English in 1169.

    Pretty sure Strongbow was second or third generation English-born. They were Normans, but they were also English by then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,801 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    I'm sorry but Wim Kieft has to be right up there.

    Him and King Billy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Ehm... It was the Normans, not English in 1169.

    Pretty sure Strongbow was second or third generation English-born. They were Normans, but they were also English by then.

    I think they still considered themselves a class separate from the native Ingerlish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,779 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Was in London there two weeks ago. Statue of Oliver Cromwell outside the Houses of Parliament. Bit like having a statue of Hitler in central Berlin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    I'm sorry but Wim Kieft has to be right up there.

    And Pascal Pape for trying to finger SOB in 2015.

    Was he the guy SOB pissed on in the pub?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,202 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    Him and King Billy.


    Indeed both Orange bastards.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    Ipso wrote: »
    Shirn what’s the difference, they were all prods anyway.

    Someone needs to go back to school I think.

    Protestantism did not even exist for another 400 years.


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