Brownface racist?

normanoffside · 22-09-2019 01:05AM

antiskeptic wrote: »

Its just I saw Trudeau grovelling in 'save my reelection chances' mode and my initial reaction was 'there's a spineless git'

Yeah he’s a Neo-liberal pussie. He’s pathetic, he just cares about power and the family dynasty. Everything else is optics.

20Wheel · 22-09-2019 01:08AM

love a bit of whiteface comedy.

its funny cause its true.

Hangdogroad · 22-09-2019 01:09AM

SlowBlowin wrote: »

Go as a black Hitler, not sure what this form of racism is called ?

Atlantic Dawn · 22-09-2019 01:15AM

If an Oirish fella wanted to dress up as Robin Hood would it be racist?

windy shepard henderson · 22-09-2019 01:21AM

Rodin wrote: »

Persecution of the white male is de rigeur these days

yep first stage of the evolution chart we all become mixed race give it 2 or 3 thousand years and we as humans will all start bending our backs again in the evolution charts again until we are reversed as apes :rolleyes:

the world is just gone bonkers in pc land

a few years ago a float / act in our local parade depicted a traveler wedding , i am sure pave point would object , but then again i could show you 20000 videos on youtube that back up the satire

as it stands its okay for a man to get a sex change to a woman , but not ok for a white person to turn up at a fancy dress party as huggy bear from starsky and hutch or denzil from only fools and horses because its racist ???

windy shepard henderson · 22-09-2019 01:22AM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

If an Oirish fella wanted to dress up as Robin Hood would it be racist?

what about all them leprechauns on paddys day

22-09-2019 01:33AM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

yep first stage of the evolution chart we all become mixed race give it 2 or 3 thousand years and we as humans will all start bending our backs again in the evolution charts again until we are reversed as apes :rolleyes:

But we are great apes.

And we are no worse nor better evolved than our hominid cousins, nor indeed than any primate. All species and varieties adapt as to their needs, not in accordance with some inherent level of intelligence

The whole basis of your approach is fundamentally wrong. Apes are our cousins, not our ancestors. This is junior cert science, man.

Junkyard Tom · 22-09-2019 01:33AM

It's either dumb, racist, or some combination of the two.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C45g3YP7JOk

Danzy · 22-09-2019 01:36AM

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

It's either dumb, racist, or some combination of the two.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C45g3YP7JOk

His lordship has given the pronouncement from the pulpit.

Close the thread mods.

Your Face · 22-09-2019 01:43AM

Danzy wrote: »

His lordship has given the pronouncement from the pulpit.

Close the thread mods.

Atlantic Dawn · 22-09-2019 02:00AM

Whoy do very few women dress/confess as men?

windy shepard henderson · 22-09-2019 02:01AM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

But we are great apes.

And we are no worse nor better evolved than our hominid cousins, nor indeed than any primate. All species and varieties adapt as to their needs, not in accordance with some inherent level of intelligence

The whole basis of your approach is fundamentally wrong. Apes are our cousins, not our ancestors. This is junior cert science, man.

i am not one for bad langauge but.......Bul****!!! :rolleyes:

franglan · 22-09-2019 02:04AM

This is a huge question, I don't see what's racist about it. People are black, people are white. That's fantastic! If I want to tan up or lessen the tan for dramatic effect whats the problem???

Junkyard Tom · 22-09-2019 02:10AM

Danzy wrote: »

His lordship has given the pronouncement from the pulpit.

Close the thread mods.

It's not like you'd ever go to a fancy dress party in blackface anyway. You can still imagine dressing up in Blackface and get outraged on the internet that you can't.

No one can ever take that away.

Mickeroo · 22-09-2019 02:15AM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

But we are great apes.

And we are no worse nor better evolved than our hominid cousins, nor indeed than any primate. All species and varieties adapt as to their needs, not in accordance with some inherent level of intelligence

The whole basis of your approach is fundamentally wrong. Apes are our cousins, not our ancestors. This is junior cert science, man.

Ah we're only grand apes at best.

windy shepard henderson · 22-09-2019 02:27AM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Whoy do very few women dress/confess as men?

i imagine it comes down to bad habits , for example what woman wants to get up at 3 in the morning and steel a pair of knickers from the next door neighbours closeline ........woops !!:o

StupidLikeAFox · 22-09-2019 02:37AM

franglan wrote: »

This is a huge question, I don't see what's racist about it. People are black, people are white. That's fantastic! If I want to tan up or lessen the tan for dramatic effect whats the problem???

For some people they will see no issue like yourself. However "blacking up" has historically been used to caricature black people so other people will interpret your blackface as taking the piss out of black people.

windy shepard henderson · 22-09-2019 02:42AM

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

For some people they will see no issue like yourself. However "blacking up" has historically been used to caricature black people so other people will interpret your blackface as taking the piss out of black people.

nonsense it was a ****ing party like most of us he listened to rnb music he was a nerd future politician trying to be cool where do people get off its no more racist then i am rubbish argument in fact its a laughable argument at this stage

JackieChang · 22-09-2019 07:14AM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

But we are great apes.

And we are no worse nor better evolved than our hominid cousins, nor indeed than any primate. All species and varieties adapt as to their needs, not in accordance with some inherent level of intelligence

The whole basis of your approach is fundamentally wrong. Apes are our cousins, not our ancestors. This is junior cert science, man.

You must be fun at parties.

Allinall · 22-09-2019 07:23AM

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

For some people they will see no issue like yourself. However "blacking up" has historically been used to caricature black people so other people will interpret your blackface as taking the piss out of black people.

I don’t think Lyons Tea were racists.

Orderofchaos · 22-09-2019 11:04AM

Blackface originally done to redicule/mock black people so yes blackface is racist.

Orderofchaos · 22-09-2019 11:06AM

If I dress up as a famine victims to mock Irish people am I racist?

mr_fegelien · 22-09-2019 11:06AM

Didn't we come from an ancestor called homo erection....lol..I mean erectus?

All racist this and racist that, just go as what you want. I'm black and don't find it racist at all.

Danzy · 22-09-2019 11:07AM

Orderofchaos wrote: »

Blackface originally done to redicule/mock black people so yes blackface is racist.

Is everything in your life defined by a narrow period of U.S. history?

Orderofchaos · 22-09-2019 11:08AM

Danzy wrote: »

Is everything in your life defined by a narrow period of U.S. history?

Nope, just pointing out why blackface is generally considered racist.

the beer revolu · 22-09-2019 11:10AM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

yep first stage of the evolution chart we all become mixed race give it 2 or 3 thousand years and we as humans will all start bending our backs again in the evolution charts again until we are reversed as apes :rolleyes:
??

Amongst that ignorance and stupidity is some deep, disturbing racism.

Unless I'm reading you incorrectly, you are actually saying that by becoming a more homogenous population, humans would be regressing in evolutionary terms?

Or to put it in more simple terms that you might be able to understand, it seems like you believe that black people are more closely related to apes than white people are - ie less evolved.

SJW Lover · 22-09-2019 11:12AM

I'm loving this new debate as to whether brown/black face is now actually even racist now that one of the darlings has been caught redhanded

Orderofchaos · 22-09-2019 11:13AM

SJW Lover wrote: »

I'm loving this new debate as to whether brown/black face is now racist now that one of the darlings has been caught redhanded

Delighted for the silly twat.

22-09-2019 11:22AM

antiskeptic wrote:

I'm white. I'm invited to a fancy dress. I decide to go as Martin Luther King (who I admire), Mohammed Ali (who my folks admired) or Aladdin (recalling the magic of Arabian Nights during childhood)

This argument has been done to death. Over the years I have seen well known racist members post this argument. Everyone knows that they don't admire any Black man or woman.

antiskeptic wrote:

I'm a racist?

If you truly admire this Black person why would you want to risk degrading or insulting their community? If you admire Martin Luther King or Ali you will already know that they would take your blackface or brownface as an insult.

It's a nonsense argument hiding behind the pretence of admiration when you know that the person you "claim" to admire would be offended by the brownface. You just wouldn't do this if you admired them in the first place.

Yamanoto · 22-09-2019 11:34AM

Orderofchaos wrote: »

Blackface originally done to redicule/mock black people so yes blackface is racist.

So you're removing context altogether?

If a black man wishes to go to a party as the Pogues lead singer for Halloween, then bad teeth, slurred speech and white face paint would help in carrying it off successfully. To attend a party as Mr.T would require a similar change of skin tone and an adherence to behaviours and catchphrases associated with that characters persona.

Were someone to dress as a generic black man and act out an ill-judged series of traits and characteristics which they believe captures the essence of an entire race, that would be cause for taking exception.

Brownface racist?

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