The Dominance of Dublin GAA *Mod warning post#1*

riemann wrote: »

All I see is a team who are fitter than their opponents and pull away in any close games towards the end.

Its easy to kick a point when you've the energy levels to gain a yard on a tired opponent.

I wonder is this due to the amount of physios / dietitians / conditioning coaches etc...

Not a GAA head, think the dubs are financially doped, population has a synergistic effect with the money however fitness?!? Russian block training etc there isn’t any secret knowledge on getting in shape!

Trey13 wrote: »

Dublin’s team from the 2015 final was Cluxton,
Cooper, O’Carroll, McMahon, McCarthy, O Sullivan, McCafrrey, Bastic, Fenton, Flynn, Kilkenny, Connolly, Brogan, Andrews, Rock. Everyone Bar Bastic and Flynn has played in the all Ireland this year so you when people say once in a lifetime team this is what they might mean. 7 of that team started today with a handful coming on and others left on the bench.

There is no disputing Dublin’s advantage in population and playing games at home. They are real advantages and more tangible than ‘financial doping’.

Why don't the other counties, especially in Leinster, stop Dublin playing at 'home'?

Please explain.

Fann Linn wrote: »

Why don't the other counties, especially in Leinster, stop Dublin playing at 'home'?

Please explain.

I don’t know what you’re asking here. To be honest I would love if Dublin played the Leinster championship games ‘away’. Playing at Croke Park is 100% home advantage and I agree it’s not fair.

I would love if we played Leinster championship games around the province and I do think it would make games more competitive.

Trey13 wrote: »

I don’t know what you’re asking here. To be honest I would love if Dublin played the Leinster championship games ‘away’. Playing at Croke Park is 100% home advantage and I agree it’s not fair.

I would love if we played Leinster championship games around the province and I do think it would make games more competitive.

I'd ask why don't the other counties mandate that Dublin play away.

After all, Dublin only have one vote.

Is it an advantage to have a pick of 8 times your opponent?
Is it an advantage to play your games at home?
Is it an advantage to have your players based close to your training centre?
Is it an advantage to have huge financial resources over your opponent?

Trey13 wrote: »

Finances do have an impact, I never said they didn’t. I just don’t think they’re main reason for this particular team’s dominance.

Look, Iv seen the underage sides play several times over the last two years and while they’re good, they aren’t on a level of this crop when they were underage. I agree the structure does need to change.

The impact is hard to quantify in terms of finances but when you look at how Dublin hurlers have improved from getting beaten by 15 points by Westmeath to their current standing of being a legitimate top tier side, who whilst not quite all Ireland contenders yet are capable of beating any side on their day, I would think they have a substantial impact in Gaelic games, as they have been shown to do in pretty much every study in other sports.


I wouldn’t have your knowledge on the underage sides but Dublin have no massive immediate needs anyway. They still made the u20 final and Archer is apparent one of the best prospects in the country so I doubt the production line will suddenly grind to a halt.

Anyway I think we broadly agree leaving aside the impact of funding, enjoy the celebrations.

Hawkeye9212 wrote: »

Changing the ground won't fix Leinster. Most of the games are competitive. Dublin are the outlier.

Say the same about Munster.

Some do in Dublin on Monday if the girls do it also. College Green or Smithfield?
Its great to see the city get behind these fabulous teams.

Not very often in the history of GAA has Dublin been so dominant.
Great to see.
Lets hope there's more to come.

Fann Linn wrote: »

Some do in Dublin on Monday if the girls do it also. College Green or Smithfield?
Its great to see the city get behind these fabulous teams.

Not very often in the history of GAA has Dublin been so dominant.
Great to see.
Lets hope there's more to come.

There will be loads and loads more. The only danger to Dublin winning 7/8 all Irelands a decade for the long term is themselves or more likely, interest waning, crowds dwindling viewership falling and the GAA taking action as they can’t withstand the income drop. If Dublin fans want domination to last all they need to do is fill Croker or even have sixty thousand for all championship game.

This Dublin team is unbelievable, some of the finest footballers ever but in terms of sporting achievements five in a row isn’t especially impressive. With the advantages of population, financial, every game at home etc it’s roughly equivalent to Celtic winning five in a row. Not that Dublin are to blame for those advantages obviously.

cjmc wrote: »

Road-Hog wrote: »

Paul Galvin May be able to ignite things down I. Wexford. One of the counties that has previously done a 4 in a row

They did it when the rest of the country was busy fighting a war !!!

I'd advise you to brush up on your history.

brendanwalsh wrote: »

I think today is the death knell for Gaelic football unfortunately

Fans of 31 other counties are sick of it , players of rival teams are sick of it, even dublinfans are sick of it as shown by inability to sell out Croke Farce for majority of their championship games

All it has been reduced to now is a piss up every September for the yuppies

There won’t even be a big crowd at the homecoming , oh wait that’s cause they win it at home every year

Gaa won’t stop this till the coffers are hits feel sorry for the likes of mayo and Kerry who both deserved one of the cups and should have ended this farce by now

Have a look at how many Munster titles KY won and continue to win plus the number of all Ireland’s they won in the 1970’s / 80’s......were there calls to split KY into north and south / east and west or some other non geographic division during the ‘pit spillane’ Era......too young to remember but I would guess there wasn’t. Dublin will eventually get caught some day in next year or two......will they decline / Win duck all Sam McGuire’s like the periods 1983 to 1995 and 1995 to 2011.......probably not but there will be other winners, can’t say when but all domination in sport eventually comes to an end. Look at ‘Saw-ker’ examples......Liverpool in 70/80’s they have gone 30 years without their prized ‘title’ less so Man U......total Dublin style domination for almost 20 years, now would many of the top tiers teams fear them....have they come close to wining a league in the last 5/6 years? It’s another example too of how massive resources and the player population of the whole world being available to pick from doesn’t always mean Total domination

brendanwalsh wrote: »

I think today is the death knell for Gaelic football unfortunately

Fans of 31 other counties are sick of it , players of rival teams are sick of it, even dublinfans are sick of it as shown by inability to sell out Croke Farce for majority of their championship games

All it has been reduced to now is a piss up every September for the yuppies

There won’t even be a big crowd at the homecoming , oh wait that’s cause they win it at home every year

Gaa won’t stop this till the coffers are hits feel sorry for the likes of mayo and Kerry who both deserved one of the cups and should have ended this farce by now

If they deserved it or were good enough they would have won one, they didn't because they weren't, bitterness in this thread is unbelievable.

0127647 wrote: »

The real key is participation numbers and cash being spent per player. There was an article a few years back which was eye watering

Dublin spent nearly 4/5 times per player than the nearest county and had nearly 4 times the number of players to select from than the average of the rest of the country.

IMHO theres only one solution and that is to split Dublin into 3 (NSW). This would even up the numbers and split the money being spent more rarely per inter county team. This would allow the GAA to retain the provincial system and maintain spending in Dublin as is.

There are still some ridiculous advantages.....Players have little or no distance to travel to training, all games played at home, best facilities.

It is simply not a level playing field.

I'd happily see a limit put on training sessions as well to allow players more personal time and to ensure players are not being pressured into acting "Full Time Professional". Professionalism is not a good thing imho and this should be enforced at all levels of the GAA

Dublin can train at 7am on a weekday
What other county can do that?

Ive heard it all now , Jesus wept