The Dominance of Dublin GAA *Mod warning post#1*

Trey13

RugbyLover123 wrote: »

Not one GAA county has any of that on the level of Dublin. And even if they do they have to travel to get it. Chris Barrett said 8/9 Mayo players travel twice a week to and from Mayo for training by bus from Lucan. Getting back at like 1am. Hardly top class recovery.

And I agree with the poster above. The funding that’s been put in place has produced coaching that these players that are coming into their peak have benefited greatly from. And I turn turning them into greats.

I would be surprised if Kerry don’t have S&C or nutrition cosches. I trained with a Dublin underage and it was genuinely nothing special as some people make it out to be. I got better training playing schools rugby to be honest in fact. I honestly think that line is just a narrative created out of nothing.

beggars_bush

Trey13 wrote: »

However, I think this particular team winning 5 in a row has little to do with finances

There aren’t many lads from 17-21 coming through though at the level of some players not even in the current panel in my opinon so the dominance will eventually end.



The money certainly helps in terms of top class facilities where the lads train and access to gear, recovery and nutrition but that’s something the top intercounty teams also have.


This Dublin team is a once in a generation team and that is down to this particular crop of players and manager.

A lot of counties don't

Dublin have had a full time S & C coach when some counties don't even have a gym to train in

Why isn't matching funding available for counties and clubs outside Dublin to employ full time coaches, the same as clubs in Dublin get?

irishguitarlad

irishguitarlad wrote: »

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Do you think its inevitable they'll eventually surpass Kerry's all time record of 37 within a couple of decades?

Decades? They'll do It much earlier than that, but no one will care as the sport will be dead.

God willing.

ThunbergsAreGo

RugbyLover123 wrote: »

Trey13 wrote: »

The money certainly helps in terms of top class facilities where the lads train and access to gear, recovery and nutrition but that’s something the top intercounty teams also have.

Not one GAA county has any of that on the level of Dublin. And even if they do they have to travel to get it. Chris Barrett said 8/9 Mayo players travel twice a week to and from Mayo for training by bus from Lucan. Getting back at like 1am. Hardly top class recovery.

And I agree with the poster above. The funding that’s been put in place has produced coaching that these players that are coming into their peak have benefited greatly from. And I turn turning them into greats.

Funding doesn't make Barrett have to do that

riemann

There is a mod on this forum deleting any comments relating to testing for performance enhancing substances in the GAA.

One wonders why?

TrueGael

The amount of propagandists on here defending the funding rather than being out on a Saturday night celebrating their 'victory' says it all

Padre_Pio

riemann wrote: »

There is a mod on this forum deleting any comments relating to testing for performance enhancing substances in the GAA.

One wonders why?

Because it's conspiracy theory level stuff.

riemann

Padre_Pio wrote: »

Because it's conspiracy theory level stuff.

In what way?

ThunbergsAreGo

riemann wrote: »

There is a mod on this forum deleting any comments relating to testing for performance enhancing substances in the GAA.

One wonders why?

Cos it's potentially slander?

Trey13

TrueGael wrote: »

The amount of propagandists on here defending the funding rather than being out on a Saturday night celebrating their 'victory' says it all

Is this aimed at me? Dublin Championship resumes next week and I take my football seriously, if that’s means missing a night on the drink a week before the game so be it. Maybe Dublin football just has a better mentality towards towards the game afterall

riemann

naughtb4 wrote: »

Cos it's potentially slander?

Against whom?

Fann Linn

This is great.
Enjoy the lemons.

Augme

If the €15m made no difference why were they given it in the first place? And, also, surely spending €15m and that having zero impact on the quality is a scandalous waste of money? But we all know that isn't the case.

RugbyLover123

naughtb4 wrote: »

Funding doesn't make Barrett have to do that

If Barrett wants to play for Mayo and take advantage of this supposed top class training, facilities and gear they provide then he has to do that.

If a Dublin fan can’t admit they have clear advantages over every other county in terms of population size, funding, home advantage and location then they are deluded. It’s about time they started dominating the game with the advantages they have.

cj maxx

Dr. Bre wrote: »

How did Man City do today? beaten . No matter what advantages you have you still have to turn up and perform . That’s what makes this dubs team special

There is no comparison between Dublin and man city

Fann Linn

Hope the wimmin wrap up a great weekend tomorrow.
COYGIB.

TrueGael

Trey13 wrote: »

Is this aimed at me? Dublin Championship resumes next week and I take my football seriously, if that’s means missing a night on the drink a week before the game so be it. Maybe Dublin football just has a better mentality towards towards the game afterall

Oh don't worry I am in no way personalising it towards you, I was making a general statement, any other county would be delirious on the night/week after winning an AI and would be far from social media caring about what anybody else has to say.

The financial doping has made the ''winning'' so inevitable, it's become hollow and numbed any feeling or meaning to the special feeling winning an AI does anymore that was my point, thanks GAA

Fann Linn

Nah

riemann

Fann Linn wrote: »

Hope the wimmin wrap up a great weekend tomorrow.
COYGIB.

Do you support Liverpool as well?
To complete the trifecta

Fann Linn

riemann wrote: »

Do you support Liverpool as well?
To complete the trifecta

..

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
This is great.

TrueGael

cjmc wrote: »

There is no comparison between Dublin and man city

Yeah, Man City dont get every game at home from the PL authorities and are competing against fellow professionals

ClanofLams

The answers from Dublin supporters on here are indicative of how weak their line of argument is. ‘Begrudgers’ etc, once in a generation team ( that has half changed since 2015!).

The game has been professionalised. Dublin winning the All Ireland is now expected. It’s not an achievement really, not winning it will be more of a failure. Barring changes, this will lead to the decline of Gaelic football. As this domination continues, top prospects from Galway/Cork will choose hurling, others will choose rugby, David Clifford turned down AFL but in ten years time a similar talent will likely make another decision.

TrueGael

Dr. Bre wrote: »

How did Man City do today? beaten . No matter what advantages you have you still have to turn up and perform . That’s what makes this dubs team special

198 points the last 2 seasons but the money has had no impact on that either

Fann Linn

TrueGael wrote: »

Yeah, Man City dont get every game at home from the PL authorities and are competing against fellow professionals

Wwll the other counties could change that.

But THEY wont.

TrueGael

LiamoSail wrote: »

I wonder were people this bitter back when Kerry were doing 4 in a row, or is it a construct of today’s culture that the success of one county can give rise to a level of whining so bitter, that they wish for the destruction of the game as a whole

Is there a precedent for this, in any team sport ever? Is there a single example anywhere of opposing fans being so bitter at the victory of a rival that they’d wish for the demise of the sport as a whole?

It’s absolutely bizarre.

The sport is in demise beyond repair, crowds and TV viewers show this , its not as if we have somehow ''wished'' the demise into existence. You can thank the GAA and their decision to dope the golden child to their eyeballs

rafatoni

Here we go.. 10 in a row ... COYBIB

cj maxx

Trey13 wrote: »

From someone who has played Dublin club football at Division 1 for my whole life, I can see where the people from outside of Dublin are coming from in their opinion towards the inequality the inter county team have.

However, I think this particular team winning 5 in a row has little to do with finances. I grew up playing against the likes of Kilkenny, Mannion, McCaffrey, Scully, Costello etc. The elite lads aged 24-26 are a once in a lifetime generation crop of players. There are lads like Colm McHugh, Conor Mullaly, Lowndes, Ross McGowan who would start for most inter county sides and they can’t even get near the panel. (Lowndes aside). Added to that you have the likes of Cluxton, Rock, McCarthy who are among the games greats.

There aren’t many lads from 17-21 coming through though at the level of some players not even in the current panel in my opinon so the dominance will eventually end.

Dublin club football is in a strong place due to population and a huge influx of high level country players playing club football in Dublin. This is increasing the standard of club football in Dublin to a level it has never been at.

The money certainly helps in terms of top class facilities where the lads train and access to gear, recovery and nutrition but that’s something the top intercounty teams also have.

It’s worth noting that most of the Dublin squad were on holiday until the middle of January. They’ve a bigger squad than most counties but they give their players rest. I get the feeling that other intercounty sides could take a leaf out of Dublin’s book in that respect. Mayo looked wrecked by the end of the league campaign.

This Dublin team is a once in a generation team and that is down to this particular crop of players and manager.

Dublin have the pick of 1/3 the population. The other 2/3 is divided among 31 counties.
Of course this is a good bunch of players and they have earned the AI but the advantages in population they have mean they should be winning every year.
. The death of competitive inter county football

TrueGael

odyssey06 wrote: »

It is where a team receives funding external to the sport that is not tied to population, actual marketing potential etc.

Dublin getting more sponsorship money as they are the biggest market - not financial doping.
Grass roots funding going to Dublin through the GAA or sports development - not financial doping.
Dublin playing in Croke Park paying market rent and thereby paying off the debt on it - not financial doping.

If some Leitrim guy who made billions pays Leitrim more for sponsorship than AIG pay Dublin, thats financial doping.

So you don't want a level playing field? Fine, but don't go crying for praise and worship from the rest of us then

Road-Hog

TrueGael wrote: »

So you don't want a level playing field? Fine, but don't go crying for praise and worship from the rest of us then

Paul Galvin May be able to ignite things down I. Wexford. One of the counties that has previously done a 4 in a row

Trey13

ClanofLams wrote: »

The answers from Dublin supporters on here are indicative of how weak their line of argument is. ‘Begrudgers’ etc, once in a generation team ( that has half changed since 2015!).

The game has been professionalised. Dublin winning the All Ireland is now expected. It’s not an achievement really, not winning it will be more of a failure. Barring changes, this will lead to the decline of Gaelic football. As this domination continues, top prospects from Galway/Cork will choose hurling, others will choose rugby, David Clifford turned down AFL but in ten years time a similar talent will likely make another decision.

Dublin’s team from the 2015 final was Cluxton,
Cooper, O’Carroll, McMahon, McCarthy, O Sullivan, McCafrrey, Bastic, Fenton, Flynn, Kilkenny, Connolly, Brogan, Andrews, Rock. Everyone Bar Bastic and Flynn has played in the all Ireland this year so you when people say once in a lifetime team this is what they might mean. 7 of that team started today with a handful coming on and others left on the bench.

There is no disputing Dublin’s advantage in population and playing games at home. They are real advantages and more tangible than ‘financial doping’.