Fire in Douglas - See Mod note in post #506

Heckler · 12-09-2019 11:33PM

snotboogie wrote: »

I don't get "de feel of de village" stuff that comes out in critisims of the shopping centre. Douglas has a population of 30k, its bigger than Kilkenny City, it has double the population of Killarney. The village name is a throwback to the 60's and 70's. There is one major residential development under construction and another 5 or so at various stages of planning. If Douglas accepted what it is, a major suburb contiguous to a city heading for a 40k+ population, rather than a 1950's rural village that everyone wants to pretend it still is, it could make sensible decisions. Busconnects has huge plans for the area and it could be one of the biggest public transport hubs in Ireland but I know "de feel of de village" types will do everything to scupper it.

On topic the rumour I've heard is that the whole centre has been compromised and may need to be knocked....

In some good news for "de village" the public realm works are underway in the community park and the renders on the hoarding look fantastic.

Agreed.

Douglas is a nightmare in terms of traffic management, parking etc. I've lived on the south douglas road and the Well Road and it was faster to go to Wilton, city centre or mahon point than to go near douglas centre.

mean gene · 13-09-2019 09:54AM

this shopping centre was on its knees before the fire -footfall there has been decimated in recent months and a number of shops closed due to high rates by clayton love and dwindling footfall caused by the bottle neck that is douglas aswell as gowls working in clamping all which will be made worse by the traffic lights there putting up by willow park

Cork Trucker · 13-09-2019 10:18AM

mean gene wrote: »

this shopping centre was on its knees before the fire -footfall there has been decimated in recent months and a number of shops closed due to high rates by clayton love and dwindling footfall caused by the bottle neck that is douglas aswell as gowls working in clamping all which will be made worse by the traffic lights there putting up by willow park

Clayton Love is having no such issues out in Blackpool bar one or two idle units. The thing with Douglas is the Douglas Court shopping centre being so close. County Council made a big mess of the area, the City Council are renowned for making an even bigger mess of things again, events centre anyone? I know it's off topic, but purely to compare.

TheChizler · 13-09-2019 10:26AM

I never got the issue with clamping in the Woolen Mills. Up to now there was a big free multistorey car park right next to it and yet you had people acting shocked when they came back to their car clamped in an area which has nearly more warning signs than spaces. It's something like €1.60 for an hour, as cheap as the cheapest in town, get over it or park somewhere else. My parents' in law are regularly blocked into their home by people abandoning their cars in front of their driveway by people who'll "only be five minutes" in Tesco. People's laziness and feeling of entitlement to get away with something for their own convenience is infuriating.

I understand this problem is slightly out of date now.

/rant

Cork Trucker · 13-09-2019 11:09AM

The library got it fairly bad as was to be expected considering it is located on the first floor.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/damage-caused-to-douglas-library-worse-than-first-expected-fear-cork-city-council-950490.html#.XXtehLb8aIo.twitter

the beer revolu · 13-09-2019 11:09AM

Heckler wrote: »

Agreed.

Douglas is a nightmare in terms of traffic management, parking etc. I've lived on the south douglas road and the Well Road and it was faster to go to Wilton, city centre or mahon point than to go near douglas centre.

If people routinely drive from the Well Road to Douglas shopping centre, it's no wonder the traffic situation is so dire there.

Dbu · 13-09-2019 11:17AM

the beer revolu wrote: »

If people routinely drive from the Well Road to Douglas shopping centre, it's no wonder the traffic situation is so dire there.

How would you propose they bring home a trolley full of groceries while walking or on a bike?

the beer revolu · 13-09-2019 11:23AM

Dbu wrote: »

How would you propose they bring home a trolley full of groceries while walking or on a bike?

If you live a few minutes walk from a shopping centre, why would you need a trolley full of groceries?
You don't have to do all your shopping at once, you know.
I manage perfectly fine with very rarely bringing the car to the supermarket, and then, I'm usually passing anyway.

Dbu · 13-09-2019 11:27AM

the beer revolu wrote: »

If you live a few minutes walk from a shopping centre, why would you need a trolley full of groceries?
You don't have to do all your shopping at once, you know.

I shop once a week for groceries, because it suits me to do same
When I was a singleton, no problem with a few trips a week

the beer revolu · 13-09-2019 11:34AM

Dbu wrote: »

I shop once a week for groceries, because it suits me to do same
When I was a singleton, no problem with a few trips a week

There are many benefits to not doing this if you live near shops.

Less traffic conjestion.
Less emissions.
More exercise.
Less food waste.

But people will do as people will do.

pwurple · 13-09-2019 11:41AM

the beer revolu wrote: »

If you live a few minutes walk from a shopping centre, why would you need a trolley full of groceries?
You don't have to do all your shopping at once, you know.
I manage perfectly fine with very rarely bringing the car to the supermarket, and then, I'm usually passing anyway.

How many kids do you have again?

bladespin · 13-09-2019 11:46AM

Dbu wrote: »

How would you propose they bring home a trolley full of groceries while walking

Push it maybe????

the beer revolu · 13-09-2019 11:52AM

pwurple wrote: »

How many kids do you have again?

None.

If walking 5 or 10 minutes to the shops a few times a week is deemed impossible for people with children, then we are rightly fcuked regarding traffic and transport.

the beer revolu · 13-09-2019 11:54AM

bladespin wrote: »

Push it maybe????

You'd be surprised what you'd fit in a backpack.
There are also wheeled shopping carts.
Most people have two hands as well.

bladespin · 13-09-2019 11:57AM

BOOM!

mean gene · 13-09-2019 11:57AM

Pensioners have to go to blackrock for their pensions now which is miles away from the one on the Douglas Road surely they should be allowed choose where to collect it

bot43 · 13-09-2019 11:57AM

the beer revolu wrote: »

You'd be surprised what you'd fit in a backpack.
There are also wheeled shopping carts.
Most people have two hands as well.

You should be a life coach.

Blitzkrieger · 13-09-2019 12:05PM

mean gene wrote: »

Pensioners have to go to blackrock for their pensions now which is miles away from the one on the Douglas Road surely they should be allowed choose where to collect it

They can - Blackrock was probably the default. They can pick somewhere else if they want.

mean gene · 13-09-2019 12:06PM

Blitzkrieger wrote: »

They can - Blackrock was probably the default. They can pick somewhere else if they want.

Talking to someone who was told no their stuck with blackrock

Dbu · 13-09-2019 12:15PM

the beer revolu wrote: »

You'd be surprised what you'd fit in a backpack.
There are also wheeled shopping carts.
Most people have two hands as well.

Think I might send you my shopping list for Saturday morning, and I will leave out the washing powder and the loo roll to make it handy for you to carry everything else:p;)

the beer revolu · 13-09-2019 12:16PM

mean gene wrote: »

Pensioners have to go to blackrock for their pensions now which is miles away from the one on the Douglas Road surely they should be allowed choose where to collect it

Are pensions not paid into bank accounts, now?
Surely there's no need to collect?

my3cents · 13-09-2019 12:17PM

the beer revolu wrote: »

Are pensions not paid into bank accounts, now?
Surely there's no need to collect?

They can be paid into bank accounts but some old folk still like to collect from the post office, it may be the only day they get out to met people and I guess you want to stop them doing that?

On one had you want people to get more exercise now you don't ???

the beer revolu · 13-09-2019 12:19PM

my3cents wrote: »

They can be paid into bank accounts but some old folk still like to collect from the post office, it may be the only day they get out to met people and I guess you want to stop them doing that?

Jesus, I merely asked a question. Less of the outrage, please.

Where did I say I wanted this stopped?
I thought it was a thing of the past.

the beer revolu · 13-09-2019 12:29PM

Dbu wrote: »

Think I might send you my shopping list for Saturday morning, and I will leave out the washing powder and the loo roll to make it handy for you to carry everything else:p;)

I never suggested doing a weekly shop on foot. But you know that.
All I'm saying is that if you live close to shops, there are alternatives to routinely doing a big shop in the car once a week.

Dbu · 13-09-2019 01:08PM

the beer revolu wrote: »

I never suggested doing a weekly shop on foot. But you know that.
All I'm saying is that if you live close to shops, there are alternatives to routinely doing a big shop in the car once a week.

Im out!! This is going nowhere

g6fdyotp5nj2l7 · 13-09-2019 01:23PM

snotboogie wrote:

On topic the rumour I've heard is that the whole centre has been compromised and may need to be knocked....

Is this from any reliable source or just pub talk ?

Cork Trucker · 13-09-2019 01:31PM

Clayton Love has spoken

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Douglas-Shopping-Centre-owner-Were-dealing-with-very-dangerous-building-65689879-ddb6-4c53-ad07-0ecf2cfba81f-ds

snotboogie · 13-09-2019 01:47PM

mean gene wrote: »

this shopping centre was on its knees before the fire -footfall there has been decimated in recent months and a number of shops closed due to high rates by clayton love and dwindling footfall caused by the bottle neck that is douglas aswell as gowls working in clamping all which will be made worse by the traffic lights there putting up by willow park

That would be the shopping centre where M&S doubled its floorspace and where Born opened a huge store all in the last 6 months? Some of the smaller stores in the middle of the centre have always struggled and have gone through various cycles of opening and closing but to say the centre was "on it's knees" is total crap

mean gene · 13-09-2019 01:48PM

the beer revolu wrote: »

Are pensions not paid into bank accounts, now?
Surely there's no need to collect?

Nah a lot don't get paid into bank accounts they collect it.
My question is why they have been told they have to go to blackrock for it when there are another 2 post offices in Douglas one by dosco the other by St finbarrs which are nearer than blackrock

mean gene · 13-09-2019 01:55PM

snotboogie wrote: »

That would be the shopping centre where M&S doubled its floorspace and where Born opened a huge store all in the last 6 months? Some of the smaller stores in the middle of the centre have always struggled and have gone through various cycles of opening and closing but to say the centre was "on it's knees" is total crap

I worked there up to last week I know the footfall where do you work there

Fire in Douglas - See Mod note in post #506

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