What causes wrinkles?

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Multivitamin, some majic sh!t she spends a fortune on that gives you all in 1

This is after hours. You clearly should have responded saying "yes, I supply her with all the D she needs".

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

Yeah yeah. What harsh chemicals do we come into contact with during an ordinary day?

Again - here's what I said.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

It is, but it can be damaged from the outside in via exposure to harsh chemicals and too much strong sun. Try running around in 30 degree heat with no sunblock and see what happens!

Who's we? Where did I mention a specific set of people?

Again - this is a strawman argument, and it is YOU dragging it out.

Copy a line from the quote, counter it, prove it wrong.

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

I think there's isn't a lot of clarity on the difference between frown lines and wrinkles. Would I be right in saying that you don't develop any wrinkles before forty. What we get before forty are frown lines from the likes of smiling. I suppose you could call that a smile line! So I'm asking if higher levels of collagen can really stop frown lines forming at all.

Shouldn't this mean that women would end up with puppet lines that are deeper than men? Seeing as women smile more. I don't know if this is the case.

What if people didn't age in the biological sense? After a long time such people would still develop deep frown lines, and lines on their forehead from lying on their pillows. But they wouldn't get any wrinkles from natural ageing or from the sun. It would be interesting to see what the result would look like.

I dont know how or why I know this, advertising must be subliminally entering my mind, but I didnt see elastin mentioned, someone did mention collagen though (thats a google for you, not my own work). hyaluronic acid, on the other hand, now I dont hear much of that, probably due to not watching any tv?


And what do you mean women smile more? thats tosh, mostly blokes will belly laugh, but lets not go down that route, anyway I saw someone with a duckface recently, when I think about it they kinda looked like the Joker from the original Micheal Keaton/Batman outing, dont know how the hell she smiles at all.



Collagen and elastin are fibers that make up the supporting structure of the skin. Collagen gives skin its firmness while elastin keeps skin tight. Both of these fibers are plentiful in young skin and start to break down with natural aging and as a result of sun exposure.

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

Ah but seriously, what chemicals do the 99.9% of people who don't work in coal mines become exposed to?

environmental toxins, vehicle exhaust, VOCs, solvents-organic/inorganic, chemicals from cigarette smoke, cleaning chemicals, Id say the majority of people are exposed to a range of harsh chemicals, you dont have to be down a mine getting black lung to be getting exposed, plus UVA/UVB as people have mentioned.

BrokenArrows wrote: »

This is after hours. You clearly should have responded saying "yes, I supply her with all the D she needs".

Vitamin D? yes in face cream you mean? :pac:

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

Yeah yeah. What harsh chemicals do we come into contact with during an ordinary day?

Who's this we paleface? different people are expose to different chemicals, depends, office workers are probably exposed to a host of chemicals but different to say someone who works degreasing stuff in industrial applications, looking at how a lot of women age, Im convinced regular applications of makeup and cleaning it off doesnt help, apart from the dragging on the skin, maybe its not allowing the skin to breath/excrete oils correctly, I suppose the plastering may help fend off UVA/UVB rays or in some cases a lot more.

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Stress
Smoking
Sun

Skin needs to be constantly hydrated. My mrs is a beautician so i know a bit about this nonsense and why she uses factor 30 in mid january

What country she leaves to use factor 30?

Sun exposure is a big one. Loads of factors though, there is no real obvious answer as there's also genetic factors involved. Someone like Jared Leto is probably a good example of someone who has minded his skin, been huge on exercise and eaten an extremely raw, natural diet for decades....and looks exceptionally incredible for his age, without having had blatant work done.

Otherwise it's just a lottery. Person A could have an amazing diet, get loads of exercise and stay hydrated but be constantly exposed to the sun and other environmental factors, yet still look worse than Person B who has a crap diet, rarely exercises, but doesn't get that same exposure to external elements, or whatever.

Also we should probably remember that wrinkles/frown lines aren't equal to looking either good or bad, or a certain age, or whatever either. Someone with plenty wrinkles at age 40, versus someone with no real wrinkles at 40, isn't necessarily going to look any younger, even if they look better.