What causes wrinkles?

Problem Of Motivation

I think there's isn't a lot of clarity on the difference between frown lines and wrinkles. Would I be right in saying that you don't develop any wrinkles before forty. What we get before forty are frown lines from the likes of smiling. I suppose you could call that a smile line! So I'm asking if higher levels of collagen can really stop frown lines forming at all.

Shouldn't this mean that women would end up with puppet lines that are deeper than men? Seeing as women smile more. I don't know if this is the case.

What if people didn't age in the biological sense? After a long time such people would still develop deep frown lines, and lines on their forehead from lying on their pillows. But they wouldn't get any wrinkles from natural ageing or from the sun. It would be interesting to see what the result would look like.

Stevieluvsye

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Skin needs to be constantly hydrated. My mrs is a beautician so i know a bit about this nonsense and why she uses factor 30 in mid january

Problem Of Motivation

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Stress
Smoking
Sun

Skin needs to be constantly hydrated. My mrs is a beautician so i know a bit about this nonsense and why she uses factor 30 in mid january

Well I already know that, but what about frown lines.

Does your wife take vitamin D?

Stevieluvsye

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

Well I already know that, but what about frown lines.

Does your wife take vitamin D?

Multivitamin, some majic sh!t she spends a fortune on that gives you all in 1

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Collagen is a natural substance in the skin that promotes smoothness and elasticity. As people get older, collagen levels decrease, although it's possible to use various creams and vitamins to slow down the process.

99problems1

Why do people use boards as google?

Stevieluvsye

99problems1 wrote: »

Why do people use boards as google?

Personal recommendation i'm assuming

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Sun, pollution, smoking, dehydration, bad nutrition, lack of sleep, stress, facial expressions and genetic factors all contribute to wrinkles.

As we get older, skin gets thinner, drier, and less elastic, and less able to protect itself from damage.

When we are younger the skin springs back, but as we age the skin loses its flexibility so frown lines, crows feet, smile lines and skin damage are more permanent.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

99problems1 wrote: »

Why do people use boards as google?

Normally because they're looking for dodgy stuff like coke and hookers, but in this case, not sure.

Problem Of Motivation

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

it's possible to use various creams and vitamins to slow down the process.

Skin is nourished from the inside out. It's only women who follow trends or that lack a proper education believe in this cream nonsense. Aren't I right?

Zaph

When I was younger my mother always insisted that wrinkles were caused by myself and my siblings. I don't have kids and am pretty much wrinkle-free, so it appears she was right.

Problem Of Motivation

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Collagen is a natural substance in the skin that promotes smoothness and elasticity.

Yes but you see teenagers with neck lines and furrows on the foreheads. So I wonder if collagen can really stop that occurring any more in a young person than in an older person?!

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

Skin is nourished from the inside out. It's only women who follow trends or that lack a proper education believe in this cream nonsense. Aren't I right?

It is, but it can be damaged from the outside in via exposure to harsh chemicals and too much strong sun. Try running around in 30 degree heat with no sunblock and see what happens!

Problem Of Motivation

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

It is, but it can be damaged from the outside in via exposure to harsh chemicals and too much strong sun. Try running around in 30 degree heat with no sunblock and see what happens!

That happens about 5 days a year in this country.

What harsh chemicals? Do you work in a coal mine or something? Unless you're talking about harsh chemicals in makeup?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

That happens about 5 days a year in this country.

What harsh chemicals? Do you work in a coal mine or something? Unless you're talking about harsh chemicals in makeup?

When was the last time you saw a coal miner with silky smooth skin...?

Airyfairy12

Loss of collagen, elasticity and hyaluronic acid, the skin stops holding onto water like it did when it was younger, collagen production starts to slow down at age 25 and decreases each year after that resulting in fine lines and eventually this will progress to deep wrinkles over time.
Men and women's skin age differently as men have much thicker skin than women.
Smoking, diet, sun exposure, lack of sleep and stress can accelerate skin aging but mostly it is down to genetics. That said, it will catch up with us all eventually.

Expression lines arent the same as wrinkles caused by aging, theyre caused by facial movement and are usually genetic or just apart of the persons face, theyre not caused by any reduction of collagen or skin aging, we all have lines on our skin regardless of age.

Problem Of Motivation

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

When was the last time you saw a coal miner with silky smooth skin...?

Ah but seriously, what chemicals do the 99.9% of people who don't work in coal mines become exposed to?

Problem Of Motivation

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

Expression lines arent the same as wrinkles caused by aging, theyre caused by facial movement and are usually genetic or just apart of the persons face, theyre not caused by any reduction of collagen or skin aging, we all have lines on our skin regardless of age.

But does a higher collagen amount slow down expression lines forming? Like say, you wouldn't see a teenager with laughter lines like Mick Jagger.

Airyfairy12

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

But does a higher collagen amount slow down expression lines forming? Like say, you wouldn't see a teenager with laughter lines like Mick Jagger.

Expression lines get worse over time due to the movement of the face, regardless of collagen production. Reduction in collagen production, elasticity and hydration will also deepen the lines over time

Raconteuse

I'm lucky to have just a few fine lines on my forehead. There are people younger than I with crows feet.

I avoid the sun as much as possible, and wear factor 30 or 50 when in it. I'm really pale though - virtually zero melanin - so I'd have a high risk of skin cancer.

Deebles McBeebles

Raconteuse wrote: »

I'm lucky to have just a few fine lines on my forehead. There are people younger than I with crows feet.

I avoid the sun as much as possible, and wear factor 30 or 50 when in it. I'm really pale though - virtually zero melanin - so I'd have a high risk of skin cancer.

Redhead by any chance, R? Always thought that redheads seem to age better. Barring Carrot Top of course.

Raconteuse

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Redhead by any chance, R? Always thought that redheads seem to age better. Barring Carrot Top of course.

No I'm a blackhead.

JohnnyFlash

Always wear sunscreen.

Deebles McBeebles

Raconteuse wrote: »

No I'm a blackhead.

Please, don't be so harsh on yourself.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

Ah but seriously, what chemicals do the 99.9% of people who don't work in coal mines become exposed to?

You asked what causes wrinkles, I told you. Are you implyimg that exposure doesn't cause harm?

Lotus Flower

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

That happens about 5 days a year in this country.

What harsh chemicals? Do you work in a coal mine or something? Unless you're talking about harsh chemicals in makeup?

It doesn't have to be sunny for damage to occur. UVA/ UVB days don't care whether it's sunny or cloudy. Obviously more care needs to be taken in sunnier weather but it's a misconception that only sunny weather causes damage. I wear SPF all year round.

What specifically are the harsh chemicals in makeup you're referring to?

biko

You get wrinkles every time you masturbate.
Stop masturbating = stop wrinkles

Deebles McBeebles

biko wrote: »

You get wrinkles every time you masturbate.
Stop masturbating = stop wrinkles

No sprinkles = less wrinkles

SEPT 23 1989

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Stevieluvsye

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

Ah but seriously, what chemicals do the 99.9% of people who don't work in coal mines become exposed to?

You have been told already. The primary cause is UV Rays (Exposure)

Problem Of Motivation

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

You asked what causes wrinkles, I told you. Are you implyimg that exposure doesn't cause harm?

You said chemicals!

You're really dragging this out on purpose aren't you.

Problem Of Motivation

biko wrote: »

You get wrinkles every time you masturbate.
Stop masturbating = stop wrinkles

That would mean that you get wrinkles every time you have sex too!

Problem Of Motivation

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

You have been told already. The primary cause is UV Rays (Exposure)

And why are you pretending that I didn't get that? That person mentioned creams being able to protect the skin from chemicals. If you don't know anything about that, then don't but in. Or maybe ask your wife about it.

Stevieluvsye

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

And why are you pretending that I didn't get that? That person mentioned creams being able to protect the skin from chemicals. If you don't know anything about that, then don't but in. Or maybe ask your wife about it.

Relax sweet cheeks.

You'll find sunscreen generally comes in the form of a cream which protects your skin from ageing

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Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

You said chemicals!

You're really dragging this out on purpose aren't you.

Here's what I said:

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

It is, but it can be damaged from the outside in via exposure to harsh chemicals and too much strong sun. Try running around in 30 degree heat with no sunblock and see what happens!

You are the one dragging this out be mentioning coal mines and creating strawman arguments.

Are you under the impression that I was wrong when I said that harsh chemicals damage the skin?

BrokenArrows

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Multivitamin, some majic sh!t she spends a fortune on that gives you all in 1

This is after hours. You clearly should have responded saying "yes, I supply her with all the D she needs".

Problem Of Motivation

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Here's what I said:

You are the one dragging this out be mentioning coal mines and creating strawman arguments.

Are you under the impression that I was wrong when I said that harsh chemicals damage the skin?

Yeah yeah. What harsh chemicals do we come into contact with during an ordinary day?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

Yeah yeah. What harsh chemicals do we come into contact with during an ordinary day?

Again - here's what I said.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

It is, but it can be damaged from the outside in via exposure to harsh chemicals and too much strong sun. Try running around in 30 degree heat with no sunblock and see what happens!

Who's we? Where did I mention a specific set of people?

Again - this is a strawman argument, and it is YOU dragging it out.

Copy a line from the quote, counter it, prove it wrong.

Problem Of Motivation

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Again - here's what I said.



Who's we? Where did I mention a specific set of people?

Again - this is a strawman argument, and it is YOU dragging it out.

Copy a line from the quote, counter it, prove it wrong.

What chemicals? Just tell me?

Stevieluvsye

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

What chemicals? Just tell me?

Parabens

Google it

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

What chemicals? Just tell me?

Either you're trolling me at this point, or you're claiming that harsh chemicals do not hurt the skin. Please clarify.

If you're next response doesn't clarfiy this, or challenges a point I never made. You'll know why I haven't responded to it.

Problem Of Motivation

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Either you're trolling me at this point, or you're claiming that harsh chemicals do not hurt the skin. Please clarify.

No, I just want to know what the harsh chemicals are? and how exactly we come into contact with them. Are they chemicals that are present in the air? or in swimming pools? or where? I would never have thought that harmful chemicals present in the air would be present at such high quantities that they'd be cause for concern? especially if they merely land on a layer of dead cells?

Or is it that those harmful chemicals are present in makeup? and that you have to protect the skin before putting on the makeup? I think that might be it! That's what you meant by the whole "we" thing.

Anyway I hope you respond.

knockers84

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Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

I think there's isn't a lot of clarity on the difference between frown lines and wrinkles. Would I be right in saying that you don't develop any wrinkles before forty. What we get before forty are frown lines from the likes of smiling. I suppose you could call that a smile line! So I'm asking if higher levels of collagen can really stop frown lines forming at all.

Shouldn't this mean that women would end up with puppet lines that are deeper than men? Seeing as women smile more. I don't know if this is the case.

What if people didn't age in the biological sense? After a long time such people would still develop deep frown lines, and lines on their forehead from lying on their pillows. But they wouldn't get any wrinkles from natural ageing or from the sun. It would be interesting to see what the result would look like.

I dont know how or why I know this, advertising must be subliminally entering my mind, but I didnt see elastin mentioned, someone did mention collagen though (thats a google for you, not my own work). hyaluronic acid, on the other hand, now I dont hear much of that, probably due to not watching any tv?


And what do you mean women smile more? thats tosh, mostly blokes will belly laugh, but lets not go down that route, anyway I saw someone with a duckface recently, when I think about it they kinda looked like the Joker from the original Micheal Keaton/Batman outing, dont know how the hell she smiles at all.



Collagen and elastin are fibers that make up the supporting structure of the skin. Collagen gives skin its firmness while elastin keeps skin tight. Both of these fibers are plentiful in young skin and start to break down with natural aging and as a result of sun exposure.

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

Ah but seriously, what chemicals do the 99.9% of people who don't work in coal mines become exposed to?

environmental toxins, vehicle exhaust, VOCs, solvents-organic/inorganic, chemicals from cigarette smoke, cleaning chemicals, Id say the majority of people are exposed to a range of harsh chemicals, you dont have to be down a mine getting black lung to be getting exposed, plus UVA/UVB as people have mentioned.

BrokenArrows wrote: »

This is after hours. You clearly should have responded saying "yes, I supply her with all the D she needs".

Vitamin D? yes in face cream you mean? :pac:

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

Yeah yeah. What harsh chemicals do we come into contact with during an ordinary day?

Who's this we paleface? different people are expose to different chemicals, depends, office workers are probably exposed to a host of chemicals but different to say someone who works degreasing stuff in industrial applications, looking at how a lot of women age, Im convinced regular applications of makeup and cleaning it off doesnt help, apart from the dragging on the skin, maybe its not allowing the skin to breath/excrete oils correctly, I suppose the plastering may help fend off UVA/UVB rays or in some cases a lot more.

Greentopia

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

I think there's isn't a lot of clarity on the difference between frown lines and wrinkles. Would I be right in saying that you don't develop any wrinkles before forty. What we get before forty are frown lines from the likes of smiling. I suppose you could call that a smile line! So I'm asking if higher levels of collagen can really stop frown lines forming at all.

People develop wrinkles at different ages for a myriad of different reasons than others have mentioned already-sun exposure, genetics-rate of elastin and collagen loss, diet & lifestyle, exposure to pollutants, cigarette smoking... there are people with wrinkles in their twenties and some over forty with none.

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

Shouldn't this mean that women would end up with puppet lines that are deeper than men? Seeing as women smile more. I don't know if this is the case.

What do you mean "puppet lines"? marionette lines? women smile more? :pac: wherever did you get that idea? anyway smiling doesn't cause marionette lines (if that's what you mean). They're caused by the same things all wrinkles are caused by but smoking would definitely be a factor as they're around the mouth.

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

What if people didn't age in the biological sense? After a long time such people would still develop deep frown lines, and lines on their forehead from lying on their pillows. But they wouldn't get any wrinkles from natural ageing or from the sun. It would be interesting to see what the result would look like.

See causes of wrinkles. Creases from lying on pillows is age related because of loss of elastin and collagen. How could you develop frown lines if you didn't age? sorry your point makes no sense to me.

Leg End Reject

Ageing causes wrinkles, an unhealthy lifestyle will speed up their appearance.

Free Botox and cosmetic surgery for all.

Problem Of Motivation

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Who's we? Where did I mention a specific set of people?

Again - this is a strawman argument, and it is YOU dragging it out.

Copy a line from the quote, counter it, prove it wrong.

You could have put 'we' in bold if you're going to be speaking in cryptic clues.

fmpisces

Men.

Deebles McBeebles

fmpisces wrote: »

Men.

Grey hair must be the women's doing so :pac:

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Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

You could have put 'we' in bold if you're going to be speaking in cryptic clues.

I was about to say I don't know what you're on about but, actually, it's you who seems to not know what he's saying. You used 'we'.

And as for your frown lines, as opposed to wrinkles, they the result of repeated movement over time, a loss of elastic tissue due to age, and genetics. Get used to them.

Arghus

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