The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

Oat23 wrote: »

I think it's hilarious how it is blowing up in their faces like a lot of us predicted. And as a Bears fan we have an important 2nd round pick coming from the Raiders this season in exchange for our 1st rounder, so I obviously want them to crash & burn so we can have a pick somewhere in the 33-36 range.


Part of me doesn't like being happy about it because I suspect he actually has CTE or something else caused by football. He has completely lost it.

Well while CTE isn't going away and players of this era may still end up having it, I think we need to be careful to not blame CTE every players outbursts. This isn't new from him. The raiders knew who he was. He decided to get thick over a rule that every other player in the league did without controversy. He needs to grow up IMO.

Oat23 wrote: »

Good guy Vontaze Burfict. Always liked him.

You're definitely in trouble when Burfict is the voice of reason!

Oat23 wrote: »

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Well while CTE isn't going away and players of this era may still end up having it, I think we need to be careful to not blame CTE every players outbursts. This isn't new from him. The raiders knew who he was. He decided to get thick over a rule that every other player in the league did without controversy. He needs to grow up IMO.

He was never this bad though. There was a timeline posted somewhere (reddit I think) of all of the incidents he has been involved in that we know of, and in the past 2-3 years the # of incidents has skyrocketed. Like throwing furniture out a hotel window and almost hitting a young child. Who does that? Mentally ill people, that's who. A chef puts a fish head in his freezer to make broth and he considers it a death threat. Extremely paranoid people act like that. Paranoia is a major side-effect of CTE too.



People keep going back to that concussion he got after being hit by Burfict as where this all could have started.

Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't CTE been linked to repeated concussions ? That hit by Burfict was a shocking hit but AB hasn't had many other concusssions has he ? I mean the steelers centre mike Webster had it and died in part because of it, but he was taking blows to the head every snap in an era when it wasn't known about and if you could walk you played.

I know there is rules about fines for not practicing and playing games when fit to do so and the raiders may use that to void his contract, but surely allegedly threatening to punch your GM wouldn't help your cause.

Christy42 wrote: »

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't CTE been linked to repeated concussions ? That hit by Burfict was a shocking hit but AB hasn't had many other concusssions has he ? I mean the steelers centre mike Webster had it and died in part because of it, but he was taking blows to the head every snap in an era when it wasn't known about and if you could walk you played.

I know there is rules about fines for not practicing and playing games when fit to do so and the raiders may use that to void his contract, but surely allegedly threatening to punch your GM wouldn't help your cause.

The issue is we are still terrible at diagnosing concussions. I am it is frequently a quiz that players learn how to game. We don't know how many he had in his career and in college.

Anecdotal but the QB coach in season 2 of LSU mentioned he had hidden concussions from coaches when he played though eventually he got enough obvious ones to force him out.

You are right that it would be multiple concussions.

Well then that's a case of the winning at all costs mentality that leads to players not reporting them needing to change.

Foxtrol wrote: »

For all the talk of that hit and CTE, around the same time as that is when he got his first big-money contract. That kind of money can change a person or, maybe more accurately, bring out aspects of a person's character they have buried up until that point.

A guy who grew up in poverty and goes from being a low paid rookie to being a superstar on a huge deal, while receiving little to no discipline for his initial outbursts, is the textbook makings of someone going completely off the rails.

He doesn't always come across that way though. You'll see him on TV being interviewed and he's completely normal and comes across well. If it was money and fame going to his head he'd be walking around thinking he's the GOAT and be an arseh*le all the time would he not?


To me, and I obviously don't know him nor am I around him, but it's like some switch goes off in his head and he changes. He has a good Antonio/bad Antonio thing going on. He's unstable.

el Fenomeno wrote: »

Very humble guy, is Antonio.

Bad Antonio right there doing stupid stuff.


Then the rest of that episode he was fine. Did he look mad or come across like a pr*ck? I didn't think so.

John gruden has said there will be an announcement on AB later.

Edit: I originally said later today because I saw it said it was today.

Not sure if anyone listened to the podcast series the Boston globe did on Aaron Hernandez and how he had one of the worst cases of CTE for someone his age ever found and he died tragically young. Problem is that you can only be diagnosed with it officially after you die but AB behaviour is getting more erratic. On other hand he may just be a diva and now has money is acting how he wants. If the raiders can suspend him and release him before start of season they don't owe him a penny of the 29millon he gtd, they would have to claw back the 1mil signing bonus and have those picks sent to Steelers already. If he on active roster at start of season they eat near 15millon. I'd say move on and don't take the cap hit, can't see how situ is recoverable given the details of bust up

Oat23 wrote: »

Bad Antonio right there doing stupid stuff.


Then the rest of that episode he was fine. Did he look mad or come across like a pr*ck? I didn't think so.

I don't know, I'm used to seeing how most NFL players act. I don't think he's come across the worst - there's certainly been worse before him (Brian Cushing for example, and I can't remember who but someone on the Cowboys one definitely left me with a poor impression).

Having said that, my fiance who has nowhere near the level of exposure to NFL players' carry-on that I do also watched it this year, and she couldn't stand Antonio Brown. She was cringing every time he was on screen, and called out the choreography of the high school scene too.

el Fenomeno wrote: »

I don't know, I'm used to seeing how most NFL players act. I don't think he's come across the worst - there's certainly been worse before him (Brian Cushing for example, and I can't remember who but someone on the Cowboys one definitely left me with a poor impression).

Having said that, my fiance who has nowhere near the level of exposure to NFL players' carry-on that I do also watched it this year, and she couldn't stand Antonio Brown. She was cringing every time he was on screen, and called out the choreography of the high school scene too.

Greg Hardy!

dfx- wrote: »

Until you can see Belichick getting him for next to nothing and getting him to perform.

imagine, next season you could have brady in his last season with a reformed josh Gordon and Antonio brown, we might aswell just give them the Lombardi now.:eek::eek: