Brexit discussion thread X (Please read OP before posting)

Spanish Eyes · 03-09-2019 09:57PM

I do hope it passes, but have doubts.

Moving onwards of course, as I do.... what happens if it fails?

Water John · 03-09-2019 09:58PM

Sky put Tory rebels at 16. 5/6 Lb may vote with the Govn't.

Degag · 03-09-2019 09:59PM

LOCK THE DOOOORRRRSSS!!!

Enzokk · 03-09-2019 10:00PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

No deal has not been examined ?

Seeing that we didn't know of Project Yellowhammer until it was leaked and we keep hearing that May go spooked by the assessments of what no-deal would mean and the same will happen to Johnson, no it hasn't really.

martingriff · 03-09-2019 10:00PM

InTheShadows wrote: »

An election is a disaster for the remoaners.

Classy

A Dub in Glasgo · 03-09-2019 10:00PM

I was watching the BBC and they are still banging on about the EU will offer a better WA than the one on the table if the UK can only double down on threatening no deal...

Water John · 03-09-2019 10:01PM

I suspect Hammond has got a nod from Europe that an Ext would be acceded to.

figges · 03-09-2019 10:01PM

Dominic Grieve, "evil will follow a no deal brexit".
He mentioned evil just before that as well - strong word for an ex attorney general to use, twice - what is he implying ?

Itssoeasy · 03-09-2019 10:01PM

Enzokk wrote: »

Seeing that we didn't know of Project Yellowhammer until it was leaked and we keep hearing that May go spooked by the assessments of what no-deal would mean and the same will happen to Johnson, no it hasn't really.

Well the MP in question was putting forth the possible up sides to a no deal and in that context it hadn't been examined.

InTheShadows · 03-09-2019 10:02PM

Thatdoesnt looksafe tome AHHHHH!! wrote: »

Boris Johnson's going down!

He's played an absolute blinder and walked these tools right into an election. He'll have done a deal with Nigel Farage and hard Brexit is now inevitable.

Itssoeasy · 03-09-2019 10:03PM

figges wrote: »

Dominic Grieve, "evil will follow a no deal brexit".
He mentioned evil just before that as well - strong word for an ex attorney general to use, twice - what is he implying ?

Public disorder ? Although referring to that as evil is a bit harsh.

InTheShadows · 03-09-2019 10:03PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Well the MP in question was putting forth the possible up sides to a no deal and in that context it hadn't been examined.

Project fear.

sdanseo · 03-09-2019 10:04PM

InTheShadows wrote: »

An election is a disaster for the remoaners.

It's true. Labour rebels will divide opinion and UK votes by first past the post.

If votes within individual constituencies are split between the opposition parties, Boris gets a landslide. By accident, because of an utterly undemocratic way of voting in anything other than a truly bipartisan country.

Ironically, the Brits voted in a referendum not to change this system (mainly because the government were not behind it and failed to adequate explain the advantages, nothing at all to do with them being terrified of losing their seats of course)

A yes vote here is a bad thing for those fearing a no deal, unless Jeremy Corbyn has a terrible accident in the next 30 days.

Spanish Eyes · 03-09-2019 10:04PM

Sounds like a football match crowd there in the Commons now. Bet they all bailed out to the Commons Bar while the boring stuff was going on. Hilarious.

Hope they don't hit the wrong button or whatever they do to vote on this. It sounds like Anfield to me!

54and56 · 03-09-2019 10:04PM

lennymc wrote: »

i thought that too, but then realised 54and56 is the one person - see OP's username

Sorry for the obvious confusion my username caused

Thargor · 03-09-2019 10:04PM

Headshot wrote: »

Well done Tom Brake for calling out JRM

disgraceful behavior

What happened? I missed it.

prawnsambo · 03-09-2019 10:04PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Well the MP in question was putting forth the possible up sides to a no deal and in that context it hadn't been examined.

He could pop over to North Korea and have a look at their sunny uplands.

sondagefaux · 03-09-2019 10:04PM

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Leroy42 · 03-09-2019 10:05PM

InTheShadows wrote: »

He's played an absolute blinder and walked these tools right into an election. He'll have done a deal with Nigel Farage and hard Brexit is now inevitable.

No Deal was the default, he didn't need to do anything except play it cool.

Instead he got spooked and started trying to throw his weight around. He has ended up taking the whip of loads of his own party and having an absolute mare in the HoC today.

But yeah, other than that he is dong great!

Itssoeasy · 03-09-2019 10:05PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Sounds like a football match crowd there in the Commons now. Bet they all bailed out to the Commons Bar while the boring stuff was going on. Hilarious.

Hope they don't hit the wrong button or whatever they do to vote on this. It sounds like Anfield to me!

No buttons. They have to say how they will vote.

declanflynn · 03-09-2019 10:05PM

InTheShadows wrote: »

Thatdoesnt looksafe tome AHHHHH!! wrote: »

Boris Johnson's going down!

He's played an absolute blinder and walked these tools right into an election. He'll have done a deal with Nigel Farage and hard Brexit is now inevitable.

I think the Brits don't have the balls to go for a no deal brexit, we will know in a few minutes either way

bazermc · 03-09-2019 10:05PM

Is there not enough seats when they all turn up.

Should be like the teddy bears picnic

Itssoeasy · 03-09-2019 10:06PM

bazermc wrote: »

Is there not enough seats when they all turn up.

Should be like the teddy bears picnic

No. There isn't enough seats in the House of Lords either.

Imreoir2 · 03-09-2019 10:07PM

InTheShadows wrote: »

Project fear.

This is adding nothing to the debate, write something worth reading or stay quiet please.

prawnsambo · 03-09-2019 10:07PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

No buttons. They have to say how they will vote.

It's even more archaic than that. They walk through the lobbies, the Ayes or the Noes.

awec · 03-09-2019 10:07PM

bazermc wrote: »

Is there not enough seats when they all turn up.

Should be like the teddy bears picnic

They are rarely all in the chamber at the same time.

03-09-2019 10:07PM

Listening to BBC commentators speculating about the long delay waiting for the whips.

Last time this happened the result was very close.

Spanish Eyes · 03-09-2019 10:08PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

No buttons. They have to say how they will vote.

But not publicly. I know it is available later on record.

It is still like a drunken horde in there before a match now. Are we listening to Parliament Live?

The place was empty for a few hours. Guess where they were?

Itssoeasy · 03-09-2019 10:08PM

prawnsambo wrote: »

It's even more archaic than that. They walk through the lobbies, the Ayes or the Noes.

I know but you have to declare to the teller which way you are voting. I've seen a video of the whole thing being explained and while I'm sure it's a nice touch to keep the traditions, a bit of modernisation wouldn't hurt.

Harry Palmr · 03-09-2019 10:09PM

A delay in the aye lobby which may or maybe mean something

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