Brexit discussion thread X (Please read OP before posting)

boggerman1 · 03-09-2019 09:09PM

How many Tories will switch.grieve,Hammond,Stewart and Clark will surely vote against Johnson.i go with 10 to vote with the opposition.

Hodors Appletart · 03-09-2019 09:11PM

boggerman1 wrote: »

How many Tories will switch.grieve,Hammond,Stewart and Clark will surely vote against Johnson.i go with 10 to vote with the opposition.

LBC reported 17 had declared rebellious intentions already.

martingriff · 03-09-2019 09:11PM

F**k me lying down sneering while people talk he has no honor.

L1011 · 03-09-2019 09:12PM

sondagefaux wrote: »

He withdrew his resignation.

He still won't turn up I bet.

Spanish Eyes · 03-09-2019 09:12PM

All JRM' antics will be forgotten about tomorrow. I am sure you all remember the intricate interminable dramas in HOC from last year. Where did that lead them? Nowhere at all.

This is the last chance saloon now. But I doubt they care much either way as long as they manage to stay in power.

Yep, I am that cynical now.

Hodors Appletart · 03-09-2019 09:12PM

but there are quislings like Hoey who will vote with th government

Joe_ Public · 03-09-2019 09:13PM

boggerman1 wrote: »

How many Tories will switch.grieve,Hammond,Stewart and Clark will surely vote against Johnson.i go with 10 to vote with the opposition.

Wouldnt surprise me if there were one or two above the expected, given the way the pm and his trusted brexiteer lieutenants performed today. Dont think 20 is out of the question.

An Ciarraioch · 03-09-2019 09:15PM

Labour snatching defeat from the jaws of victory?

https://twitter.com/iainjwatson/status/1168978694846713858

martingriff · 03-09-2019 09:15PM

Enzokk wrote: »

What is Rees-Mogg doing? Maybe he has a bad back and needs to stretch out, at least I hope it is that. Otherwise it looks terrible, like he is not interested in the events and it is boring him.

I cannot believe it but I actually think Jeremy Clarkson has the solution,

https://twitter.com/JeremyClarkson/status/1168900817371455489?s=20

As for Labour, for once they seem to have their ducks in a row.

https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1168973611727839237?s=20

Emily Thornberry confirming that they will try to get legislation in place first before going to an election. That is the most logical thing they could do and not fall for the trap that Johnson seems to have set for them. Credit where it is due, lets hope they get the legislation done. If not, they will need to consider a VONC as that would be the next step to try and get the legislation done or general election.

My god have I just agreed with Jeremy Clarkson

RickBlaine · 03-09-2019 09:16PM

gooch2k9 wrote: »

He's awake at the very least. We often see MPs lying asleep in there.

Are we sure he's awake:

Joe_ Public · 03-09-2019 09:17PM

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

Labour snatching defeat from the jaws of victory?

https://twitter.com/iainjwatson/status/1168978694846713858

Only 17 signatories, so looks like they've lost a few of their original number. Think there were in the region of 25-26 labour leavers or thereabouts.

For Forks Sake · 03-09-2019 09:18PM

RickBlaine wrote: »

Are we sure he's awake:

Yes, I would imagine that he usually sleeps upside-down from the rafters like a bat.

Speaking of bats, here's Kate Hoey talking absolute guff.

Leroy42 · 03-09-2019 09:18PM

I get that there is much happening in the HoC today, but I still find it odd that so little has been made of the reporting that Johnson has offered no alternatives to the EU. Nothing.

Foster broke the story, which of course was denied, but the EU has come out and claimed that they have received nothing. McGuinness said on C4 news that talking is not negotiating, no matter what Johnson may claim.

It is a scandal that apparently Johnson, and by extension the cabinet, have basically been lying to the country

Spanish Eyes · 03-09-2019 09:20PM

I wish I were more positive, but I don't think the rebel plot will succeed. Great if it does though and I am hoping for that.

Another day and another watch of Parliament Live yippee.

Us anoraks love this don't we? Whether we admit it or not.

Our own Dail is so dull in comparison. All reading scripts AFAIS. But that's off topic.

Has the vote been approved yet for no to NO DEAL does anyone know? Maybe that vote hasn't been taken yet dunno.

Have a life, with one eye on things!

Itssoeasy · 03-09-2019 09:20PM

Who is this MP taking now ?

Enzokk · 03-09-2019 09:20PM

Kate Hooey throwing mud and dubious facts. She states that the bill would give the EU powers to decide for the UK, which is not true. If the EU proposes a date longer than the proposed date it has to be approved by parliament I believe.

Then she mentions that proroguing is only 4-5 days extra, which it isn't. It is stopping all of parliament work for 5 weeks, strange that they never bother with this. Didn't sound like she had much support.

awec · 03-09-2019 09:21PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Who is this MP taking now ?

The woman?

Kate Hoey. Labour party (in name only).

For Forks Sake · 03-09-2019 09:21PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Who is this MP taking now ?

Robert Courts MP (Witney, Conservative)

Parliament Live has a list of who's speaking to the right of the video stream : https://parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/ff02f7f6-014a-4a8c-9ef7-bd2cd9986e53

An Ciarraioch · 03-09-2019 09:21PM

Kate Hoey was talking a few minutes ago, anyway.

An Ciarraioch · 03-09-2019 09:22PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I wish I were more positive, but I don't think the rebel plot will succeed. Great if it does though and I am hoping for that.

Another day and another watch of Parliament Live yippee.

Us anoraks love this don't we? Whether we admit it or not.

Our own Dail is so dull in comparison. All reading scripts AFAIS. But that's off topic.

Has the vote been approved yet for no to NO DEAL does anyone know? Maybe that vote hasn't been taken yet dunno.

Have a life, with one eye on things!

Result just in time for the BBC News at Ten.

Headshot · 03-09-2019 09:23PM

Enzokk wrote: »

Kate Hooey throwing mud and dubious facts. She states that the bill would give the EU powers to decide for the UK, which is not true. If the EU proposes a date longer than the proposed date it has to be approved by parliament I believe.

Then she mentions that proroguing is only 4-5 days extra, which it isn't. It is stopping all of parliament work for 5 weeks, strange that they never bother with this. Didn't sound like she had much support.

The labour party cannot wait to see the back of her, the shadow cabinet often say she's not a labour politician

mcmoustache · 03-09-2019 09:23PM

thecretinhop wrote: »

christ the echo chamber in here

This isn't a "pineapple on pizza; delicious or disgusting?" kind of thing. It's more of a "setting my terraced house on fire because of a spider; good idea or bad idea?" kind of a thing.

SleetAndSnow · 03-09-2019 09:26PM

Caroline Lucas calling out Moggs position. Good on her

For Forks Sake · 03-09-2019 09:26PM

Caroline Lucas is a very impressive speaker.

MadYaker · 03-09-2019 09:27PM

She pissed!

Joe_ Public · 03-09-2019 09:27PM

Headshot wrote: »

The labour party cannot wait to see the back of her, the shadow cabinet often say she's not a labour politician

Incredible as it may seem, she represents the largest remain voting constituency in the country!

Leroy42 · 03-09-2019 09:27PM

Very interesting tweets from Robert Peston.

https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1168981967469256704

Saying that, if vote lost tonight, Johnson would accept it and use that to force Labour into agreeing to GE. He wins he election, on a NO Deal manifesto, and his majority can overturn the legislation and they leave on 31st.

Jebus, the whole thing is a total mess.

Itssoeasy · 03-09-2019 09:29PM

awec wrote: »

The woman?

Kate Hoey. Labour party (in name only).

Oh yeah. I should have known with the tone.

For Forks Sake · 03-09-2019 09:32PM

Mogg getting called out by everyone now

kevthegaff · 03-09-2019 09:32PM

Though corburn spoke well and showed a bit more leadership than normal

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