Waterford GAA thread - mod warning post #1 and #51

Road-Hog · 30-08-2019 08:27PM

Mulbert wrote: »

The list is wrong.

Yes very wrong......Waterford defo didn’t win minor all Ireland in 2009

mountgomery burns · 30-08-2019 08:30PM

Road-Hog wrote: »

Yes very wrong......Waterford defo didn’t win minor all Ireland in 2009

4 years later as in 2013

RichardBzero · 30-08-2019 09:44PM

Obi1mikal wrote: »

Totally understand that, my point is that u16 and u18 were ran last year with little fuss and by all accounts two very good and competitive championships. (I am only speaking about the A championships as I am not fully sure how the other divisions played out). So when they changed to u17 and u19 they could of ran two proper championships again. Just provisionally use the same dates and fixtures as the previous year and run an u23 straight knockout competition later in the year if needs be.

100% agree. I’ve only been having the same conversations with people in my own club this week. Last year clubs were given the option of u19 or u20 and voted for the former. However as you say to not have it as a proper championship is mind boggling. The situation out club find ourself in this year and what will happen to 7-8 players next year is they turn 18 and are thrown into an adult set up when they’re not physically ready and will eventually get fed up and lose interest as there’s only a small knock out tournament for them at the end of the year. Clubs are going to see a huge drop off in players at that age in the coming years unless they rethink the age groups. You’ll obviously have some lads come out of u17 and will be physically be able to blend into a senior/junior set up but the vast majority won’t.

Jerry Atrick · 31-08-2019 09:25AM

mickotallow wrote: »

Another huge factor is the money involved in training a team now. Young lads these days can’t scratch themselves without looking for a physio. Never mind training a team. That takes up huge time, effort and commitment. The money in is physios for hurling teams.
Also I heard the county board giving out about their training costs increasing this year because the Waterford team went back training earlier this year because they finished so early in 2018 and because the league start was brought forward. What about the club team that has the expenses of their team going back training in Jan for one match in April and continue training to September? This is the majority of costs for every club I would imagine. Physios, trainers, sliotars, referees, lights, electricity etc. All adds up when teams are training.
County board never think of that when they force levies onto clubs and when PJR says “that the clubs are the county board”. Funny then that when clubs ask for a definitive club calendar or for weekends off cos heaven forbid players decide to have a life while waiting months for a game, they get a firm no.

The physio phenomenon is something to behold alright. A chap does a bit of hard running and is up on the bench the following night or covered in blue tape. Complete waste of money...psychiatrist needed in most cases.

Cake Man · 31-08-2019 11:47AM

God start for the Tony Forristal team with a 3-11 to 2-07 win over Limerick. They play Offaly at 1.20.
Sonny Walsh team play either Limerick or Dublin at 12.30.

PTH2009 · 31-08-2019 05:26PM

Relegation semis
Tallow 1-16- Ballyduff Upper 0-17
Clonea 3-22- Fourmilewater 1-15

Ballyduff Upper vs Fourmilewater to decide who plays senior in 2020

QF- Ballygunner 3-22- Passage 1-12

upthedeise16 · 31-08-2019 05:30PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Relegation semis
Tallow 1-16- Ballyduff Upper 0-17
Clonea 3-22- Fourmilewater 1-15

Ballyduff Upper vs Fourmilewater to decide who plays senior in 2020

QF- Ballygunner 3-22- Passage 1-12

Fourmilewater look favourites for relegation after today’s matches, Ballyduff-Tallow was very entertaining but Clonea were way too strong for Fourmilewater team without Barron

RichardBzero · 31-08-2019 05:33PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Relegation semis
Tallow 1-16- Ballyduff Upper 0-17
Clonea 3-22- Fourmilewater 1-15

Ballyduff Upper vs Fourmilewater to decide who plays senior in 2020

QF- Ballygunner 3-22- Passage 1-12

Dessie Hutchinson was a constant threat. Slick operator and based on his movement and hurling today, he’s as good as a few on the county panel.

PTH2009 · 31-08-2019 05:41PM

Semi final defeat in the TF for Waterford beaten 1-7-0-13 by Offaly (who we actually beat in the group stage earlier)

Decent result for Offaly Hurling getting to a final

cul beag · 31-08-2019 05:52PM

upthedeise16 wrote: »

Fourmilewater look favourites for relegation after today’s matches, Ballyduff-Tallow was very entertaining but Clonea were way too strong for Fourmilewater team without Barron

Congrats to Clonea on a fantastic performance today. Worthy winners even if FMW were short the services of Jamie Barron it doesn’t deflect from a great display and I could see how they ran MT Sion so close last weekend. Their 3rd goal was worthy of the admission fee alone.
As for the Ballyduff v Tallow game it was spirited at best but the standard was chronic. It really is hard to decide on which of the 2 between Ballyduff and FMW will be relegated as both were very disappointing today.

31-08-2019 05:59PM

Agreed. The standard in the Tallow v Ballyduff game was very poor after watching the slick hurling of Clonea who were very entertaining and have some good hurlers.
Sounds like business as usual in Walsh Park!

cul beag · 31-08-2019 10:09PM

What a county board.

thesaturdayman · 31-08-2019 10:11PM

cul beag wrote: »

What a county board.

Saw it. Absolute disgrace. Should the Kilmac clashmore game not be replayed or voided so? Result can’t stand surely?

cul beag · 31-08-2019 11:10PM

thesaturdayman wrote: »

Saw it. Absolute disgrace. Should the Kilmac clashmore game not be replayed or voided so? Result can’t stand surely?

But you will love this one- The winner of the Deise Development draw having been presented with his winning cheque was informed not to cash it for 6 weeks! Eventually he got it in 3 separate payments. And they want to develop Walsh Park?!! People looking for an outside manager will have a bit of a wait I’d imagine! As for the football game the fairest thing would have to be a replay.

jelutong · 31-08-2019 11:20PM

debok wrote: »

I don't think it's the quoting Shakespeare is the problem. It's the fact that he mentions Shakespeare etc in relation to talking about tactics for a gaa match. We all have an interest in other stuff but wouldn't constantly bring up when talking about another unrelated subject. Knowing Shakespeare has absolutely nothing to do with playing an extra defender. He just comes across as someone who feels he needs to justify his intelligence during every interview

Alas,poor Derek.

Mastermcgrath · 01-09-2019 01:52AM

thesaturdayman wrote: »

Saw it. Absolute disgrace. Should the Kilmac clashmore game not be replayed or voided so? Result can’t stand surely?

Shambles from the referee, he should be suspended aswell and not return until he passes the required rules examination.

But come on, Clashmore knew exactly what they were at. It’s basic enough knowledge that while you can restore 15 players back on the field in ET, you can’t replace with the player that was given a red card. If I knew that, you can be sure that between Kilmac and Clashmore selectors knew it aswell. Playing the victim in their letter to the board like they’re all innocent....
they smelled a weak ref and tried to sneak an advantage, I hope for the 2 x players sake it’s overturned but not sure the clubs themselves deserve any better

thesultan · 01-09-2019 02:29AM

Clare won in 97

thesultan · 01-09-2019 02:29AM

Clare won in 97

Mastermcgrath · 01-09-2019 05:34AM

Decent showing from our Tony Forristal lads. Won both their group games against Limerick and a good Offaly team, had to meet Offaly again in the semi and unfortunately came up short, no shame in that Offaly have started to turn a corner at this level and went onto the final, beaten by Tipp. Overall we were very competitive which is where you hope to be.

A few observations, it feels like this once prestigious competition has lost its aura in recent seasons. The restructuring of the grading system to u13/15 and 17 means counties aren’t taking this grade as priority anymore. A couple of counties like Cork and Clare decided not to enter any teams this year, keeping their development focus on u13 and 15 grades.
Traditionally the Forristal and Sonny Walsh finals would be played as a double header in Walsh Park on the Sunday, often drawing large crowds and produced some legendary finals over the years. I note this year the entire tournament was run off in a day with the finals much more low key affairs, played in Ballybeg and Cleaboy simultaneously. I appreciate the tournament depends solely on funding and the volunteer committee but it would be a pity to see it fall by the wayside.
Finally, wins for Tipp in both finals, considering they’ve just done 2 x under20 finals in a row. Is the future very much blue and gold?

Gardner · 01-09-2019 10:39AM

Paddypower suspending betting on the fourmilewater clonea match must be a new low for Waterford hurling

Deiseen · 01-09-2019 10:41AM

Gardner wrote: »

Paddypower suspending betting on the fourmilewater clonea match must be a new low for Waterford hurling

Any idea why?

thesaturdayman · 01-09-2019 11:01AM

cul beag wrote: »

But you will love this one- The winner of the Deise Development draw having been presented with his winning cheque was informed not to cash it for 6 weeks! Eventually he got it in 3 separate payments. And they want to develop Walsh Park?!! People looking for an outside manager will have a bit of a wait I’d imagine! As for the football game the fairest thing would have to be a replay.

It’s worse things are getting. Why does the deise draw which has been running decades not have enough liquidity to fund the prize pool for one month? If that was a business they’d be shut down.

As for betting suspended in a local Gaa match that’s worthy of a Croke park audit.... I wonder who was getting stuck in?

blueflame · 01-09-2019 12:24PM

The reason the Tony Forristal finals were separate events this year was because the county Bord did not leave Walsh Park free for the one day. Likewise Mount Sion was booked up for a Legends match that could have been played any other weekend where as the date for the Tony Forristal is set by Croke Park - events this year were outside of the control of the committee - with so many other GAA events being run at the same time it is no wonder the tournament was less profile than usual

PTH2009 · 01-09-2019 02:06PM

https://twitter.com/tomasmcc/status/1168146855320010754?s=19

mountgomery burns · 01-09-2019 02:40PM

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

Shambles from the referee, he should be suspended aswell and not return until he passes the required rules examination.

But come on, Clashmore knew exactly what they were at. It’s basic enough knowledge that while you can restore 15 players back on the field in ET, you can’t replace with the player that was given a red card. If I knew that, you can be sure that between Kilmac and Clashmore selectors knew it aswell. Playing the victim in their letter to the board like they’re all innocent....
they smelled a weak ref and tried to sneak an advantage, I hope for the 2 x players sake it’s overturned but not sure the clubs themselves deserve any better

Players deserve a lot better than that. Referee the one who should be punished in that instance, he should know the rules. As you said, they it's pretty basic knowledge for anyone with an interest in the sport.

01-09-2019 04:02PM

Final score
DLS 2-15
Roanmore 2-09

DLS deserved winners but made hard work of it as the game was tied at 1-12 to 2-09 with a minute of normal time to go. DLS scored 1-03 to close out the game from there with 5-6 minutes of injury time.

tommylad1212 · 01-09-2019 04:32PM

mountgomery burns wrote: »

Players deserve a lot better than that. Referee the one who should be punished in that instance, he should know the rules. As you said, they it's pretty basic knowledge for anyone with an interest in the sport.

What a mess the senior football championship is this year , two walk overs given, two suspended players playing in extra time of a match, 3 play off matches played three weeks ago , still no draw made for the 1/4 final or relegation matches

PTH2009 · 01-09-2019 06:49PM

HT- Mount Sion 1-12- Lismore 0-10

Western Intermediate Hurling semi finals
An Rinn vs Ballysaggart
Ardmore vs Clashmore

PTH2009 · 01-09-2019 07:23PM

https://twitter.com/tomasmcc/status/1168226651160944640?s=19

Didnt expect that win for Mount Sion. Are they back and aim to keep there decade record ???

Abbeyside vs Dungarvan the last QF, winners joining Ballygunner, DLS and Mount Sion in the semis

are the semis in 2 weeks time (14th/15th Sep) ??

01-09-2019 08:15PM

Big win for Mount Sion. Anyone at this one?

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