Oil or water based paint.

Mach Two · 26-08-2019 09:59PM

dok_golf wrote: »

Not necessarily so. I use Shellac primer ( BIN equivalent every day) but I find it is a bit brittle. What I do now is an adhesion primer, BIN, and 2 top coats. If you are using it on something that isn't going to get knocks and bangs, you could just use BIN followed by topcoats

Where knocks are expected. ie. stairs,water based or oil based top coat.

dodzy · 27-08-2019 07:59AM

Lex Luthor wrote: »

I presume you could use either

I have put 2 undercoats and 2 top coats of WB on the BIN primer on every job and took really well
The WB paint dries a lot quicker and is easier to clean brushes with

Overkill with 2xUC over the B.I.N surely?

Edit: Just seen your pics. Definitely no need for UC following 2 x applications of BIN. That’s expensive stuff

Lex Luthor · 27-08-2019 08:12AM

dodzy wrote: »

Overkill with 2xUC over the B.I.N surely?

Edit: Just seen your pics. Definitely no need for UC following 2 x applications of BIN. That’s expensive stuff

You're probably right in certain circumstances
Maybe on the side of the bath I could reduce it down, I have only just given it the 2 coats of BIN so far

However on the other areas I have done which are skirtings in high traffic areas and legs of tables & chairs which are prone to knocks and kicks I went with the 2+2+2 coats

They seem to be holding up well to the kicks, etc

I get all my paints @ cost so its not as expensive for me apart from my time, which is a couple of hrs here & there

a house is never finished...........

Mach Two · 27-08-2019 10:46AM

Where knocks are expected. ie. stairs,water based or oil based top coat?

dodzy · 27-08-2019 04:53PM

Mach Two wrote: »

Where knocks are expected. ie. stairs,water based or oil based top coat?

The key is not so much the finish coat, it’s the prep and treatment before the final coats that will have an impact on durability. If you were to apply 2 coats of oil based white direct over pine varnished doors, they might look alright, but the paint will fall off with the slightest nick.

William Legrande · 27-08-2019 06:13PM

I didn't think that any of the common wood paints for doors and skirting boards these days were oil-based. Any that I've had in the last 10 years or so have all been water-based.

When we moved in the house was new and there were a load of Johnstone's Trade custom colour tins left over. They were all emulsion, but none for wood. So, I cut off a piece of hidden skirting board (behind the bath panel) and brought in to a Johnstone's Decorating Centre and had a colour match made up. It matched perfectly and I have been using it room-by-room up to now.

Just last week I noticed on the tin that it was made using 'Durable Acrylic Eggshell', which surprised me. I went on their website and indeed it does look like this stuff is intended for use as a wall paint. Anyway, it has worked perfectly well up to now.

That's my experience.

I would agree with going for satin instead of high gloss.

dok_golf · 27-08-2019 07:31PM

dodzy wrote: »

The key is not so much the finish coat, it’s the prep and treatment before the final coats that will have an impact on durability. If you were to apply 2 coats of oil based white direct over pine varnished doors, they might look alright, but the paint will fall off with the slightest nick.

This is true. Its why I put shellac on over the adhesion primer rather than putting it on first. The waterbased paints are getting more durable but still haven't matched the oil yet ( I haven't usedd oil in 3 years mind you).

Sleepy · 28-08-2019 08:34AM

Any recommendations for a good water based high gloss white for skirtings, architraves and doors?

Can water based paints match the high gloss of a good oil paint?

Mach Two · 11-12-2021 07:19PM

Just an update on this. 4 doors stripped and painted. I used a heat gun to strip the paint. Used water based paint as an undercoat and finished coat. I am very happy with the results.

Oil or water based paint.

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