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Have you ever read the Bible?

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  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I had a go at it when I was a 11 or 12 but gave up long before the end. It was dry, joyless stuff and I could understand why most of it never made it to mass. I'm not sure reading it all, or living your life by it, is good for anyone. You can read what you like into it and take passages that suit you out of it.

    A lot of it is dry, but some of it is literally epic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,449 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    It's a book that's a translation of a translation, anybody who takes it literally is not to be trusted. It was the Bible thumpers that had Jesus crucified.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    I read an abridged Bible made for children. It had something like 300 pages but there were lots of pictures in it.

    Ironically this was a Bible that my sister stole from the library.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,831 ✭✭✭theological


    Snotty wrote: »
    It's not a book to be read front to back, saying that I have read all of it and the teaching of all bar the most extremely zealous Christian religions are just a cherry pick of what suits for the modern age.
    If you wanted a church that followed all teachings of the bible..... I don't even know what that would look like.

    For the record, I don't belive in organised religion, it's caused more harm that good.

    I've read the Bible through a couple of times and at my church (I'm an evangelical Protestant) we hear it preached and applied week on week. We've got home groups every second week where we think about how the Scriptures apply to our lives and there are several mid-week groups for our children and we have Christianity Explored courses every few months for interested non-Christian enquirers.

    The Bible is hugely important to us. We read it in context as faithful Christians have done through the ages. We read the Old Testament in the light of the New Testament. A principle that many atheist critics miss when they look at our faith. Scripture finds it's fulfilment in Christ so we read it in that light. That's not cherrypicking. That's how Christians have read the Bible for thousands of years. We believe of the Scriptures speak of a consistent God and that all Scripture is written for our instruction (2 Timothy 3:16).

    There's a lot of misconceptions about us but we're pretty normal people aside from our faith in Jesus Christ and we live among you. You probably know many of us already even if we've not had the courage to tell you what we believe. We need to get more courage.


  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I've read the Bible through a couple of times and at my church (I'm an evangelical Protestant) we hear it preached and applied week on week. We've got home groups every second week where we think about how the Scriptures apply to our lives and there are several mid-week groups for our children and we have Christianity Explored courses every few months for interested non-Christian enquirers.

    The Bible is hugely important to us. We read it in context as faithful Christians have done through the ages. We read the Old Testament in the light of the New Testament. A principle that many atheist critics miss when they look at our faith. Scripture finds it's fulfilment in Christ so we read it in that light. That's not cherrypicking. That's how Christians have read the Bible for thousands of years. We believe of the Scriptures speak of a consistent God and that all Scripture is written for our instruction (2 Timothy 3:16).

    There's a lot of misconceptions about us but we're pretty normal people aside from our faith in Jesus Christ and we live among you. You probably know many of us already already even if we've not had the courage to tell you what we believe. We need to get more courage.

    I think you're true and serious about your faith, so Kudos. Although you might be reading it too much, because, you know, Nazi's 😁.

    But, most Atheist/Agnostics (like me) do know that Christians believe that the NT puts the OT in context. We just don't agree with your logic. But, that's for a whole different thread.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    I've read the Bible through a couple of times and at my church (I'm an evangelical Protestant) we hear it preached and applied week on week. We've got home groups every second week where we think about how the Scriptures apply to our lives and there are several mid-week groups for our children and we have Christianity Explored courses every few months for interested non-Christian enquirers.

    The Bible is hugely important to us. We read it in context as faithful Christians have done through the ages. We read the Old Testament in the light of the New Testament. A principle that many atheist critics miss when they look at our faith. Scripture finds it's fulfilment in Christ so we read it in that light. That's not cherrypicking. That's how Christians have read the Bible for thousands of years. We believe of the Scriptures speak of a consistent God and that all Scripture is written for our instruction (2 Timothy 3:16).

    There's a lot of misconceptions about us but we're pretty normal people aside from our faith in Jesus Christ and we live among you. You probably know many of us already already even if we've not had the courage to tell you what we believe. We need to get more courage.


    Most people are sheep and follow the crowd, afraid to stand out. Be different. A huge part of population are all "atheists" now. Why? well because it is cool to say you are.

    I was at a wedding, it was this non religious one, both are seemingly atheists. A blessing in a garden with the hotel rented for weekend. Everyone was atheists seemingly.....

    That's till the bride had a few too many and admitted she done it because her mate had done it and it was so "cool"..... :P no idea why they done it or not. Sheep.....more or less a church wedding was not cool anymore

    Tomorrow morning one of them will wake up and become religious to be different and the sheep will all flock back .

    Fair play to you is the point I am trying to make......the World is all about differnet people, differenet ideas and different views. Most of the sheep forget that and try to talk down to someone who is not in the "cool gang".....


  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Most people are sheep and follow the crowd, afraid to stand out. Be different. A huge part of population are all "atheists" now. Why? well because it is cool to say you are.

    I was at a wedding, it was this non religious one, both are seemingly atheists. A blessing in a garden with the hotel rented for weekend. Everyone was atheists seemingly.....

    That's till the bride had a few too many and admitted she done it because her mate had done it and it was so "cool"..... :P no idea why they done it or not. Sheep.....more or less a church wedding was not cool anymore

    Tomorrow morning one of them will wake up and become religious to be different and the sheep will all flock back .

    Fair play to you is the point I am trying to make......the World is all about differnet people, differenet ideas and different views. Most of the sheep forget that and try to talk down to someone who is not in the "cool gang".....

    A follower of the largest religion in the world, whose god calls himself a shepherd, calling others sheep is the best thing I'm going to read on the internet today. And that includes the 2-0 victory for Liverpool this evening 😆


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭Eire Go Brach


    Bits of it in school.
    Much prefer Lord of the rings. Similar genre. Fantasy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    I was at a wedding, it was this non religious one, both are seemingly atheists. A blessing in a garden with the hotel rented for weekend. Everyone was atheists seemingly.....

    That's till the bride had a few too many and admitted she done it because her mate had done it and it was so "cool"..... :P no idea why they done it or not. Sheep.....more or less a church wedding was not cool anymore


    That's a new one on me. My anecdotal experience is that many people go for a church wedding because it'll look nice in the photos or to keep their parents happy. Do you go to many church weddings? If so, do the young people at them know the prayers and engage with the ceremony?


    If this bride had a religious faith, having a non-religious wedding wouldn't have even crossed her mind. She's probably one of those people who only enters a church for weddings and funerals. I'm not condemning her for that, by the way. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    I read it when I was younger. It was definitely the final nail in the coffin of religious belief, so to speak. Utterly ridiculous book, and if people read it, I think we would have a lot more atheists about. It's bizarre, and I struggle with the idea that people study this book and still believe it makes perfect sense. There are massive inconsistencies, in both the old and new testament. The old testament, particularly Leviticus and Deuteronomy, is highly entertaining. There's some absolutely crazy stuff in there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,791 ✭✭✭up for anything


    It was the Bible thumpers that had Jesus crucified.

    There weren't any bible thumpers at the time that 'Jesus was crucified'. How could there have been?

    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Most people are sheep

    Once I see someone use the word sheep and know that they are not going to be talking about farming, shagging or vegetarianism I stop reading.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭randd1


    The first bit is has a bit of killing and is a sadists dream and reads a lot like a fantasy novel but with angels and demons instead of elves and orcs, the second half is about how a young wan managed to convince everyone her pregnancy was supernatural and they fell for it big time.

    Pretty much it.


  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    randd1 wrote: »
    The second half is about how a young wan managed to convince everyone her pregnancy was supernatural and they fell for it big time.

    Mary was the mother of god.

    Or.

    She was a 12ish year old girl that found herself pregnant (most likely by rape) in an age where a girl's virginity was a commodity, before we get into the shame and honour killing mentality. In an age where religious belief was synonymous with magic. And she took the risk of making up a divine story.

    The greatest story never told.


  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Alayah Enough Rehabilitation


    Some of it yeah, great craic altogether. Call someone baldy and you'll be murdered by bears. Blessed are those who dash your babies against rocks. Do not let your hair become unkempt or god wil be angry and you'll die.
    Think there's some mildew removal instructions as well? And a load of letters from Paul who nobody ever replied to


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    bluewolf wrote: »
    Some of it yeah, great craic altogether. Call someone baldy and you'll be murdered by bears. Blessed are those who dash your babies against rocks. Do not let your hair become unkempt or god wil be angry and you'll die.
    Think there's some mildew removal instructions as well? And a load of letters from Paul who nobody ever replied to

    The postal service wasn't great back then , that's why Paul never got a reply.


  • Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Hailee Fast Gunpoint


    I've read every syllable of it (twice) and I'm a devout non-believer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 925 ✭✭✭BuboBubo


    I read a kids version of the Bible many years ago and I loved it.

    Tried to read the real thing when I was about 12 and failed miserably, haven't thought about it since. I often find them in drawers in hotels and BnB's when unpacking my stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    BuboBubo wrote: »
    I read a kids version of the Bible many years ago and I loved it.

    Tried to read the real thing when I was about 12 and failed miserably, haven't thought about it since. I often find them in drawers in hotels and BnB's when unpacking my stuff.

    I'm hoping an X-Box or PlayStation version will be out for Christmas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,703 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    I've read snippets of it at a time but have forgotten everything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,931 ✭✭✭Marhay70


    kneemos wrote: »
    Catholics don't traditionally do the bible very well.
    Protestants read and study the thing a lot more.

    That's not surprising seeing as that is partly what the Reformation was about. At that time only priests read the Bible and everybody else had to accept their interpretation of what it contained. Just another way for the RCC to control the plebs.
    I've read the Bible, both Old and New Testaments and I find it hard to distinguish which is the bigger fairy story. My biggest problem is with the "loving God" who has no problem wiping out tens of thousands of people at the drop of a hat and also the story tellers of the New Testament who can't even manage to tell the same story.


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