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Ireland one of 6 countries which has agreed to take migrants from Med ship

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    #92
    [Deleted User]
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    Bonniedog wrote: »
    The joke is on us, as they say.

    He's no fool. Spotted exactly the sort of Pollyanna fools like Barrett and Daly and the like who have the same condescending attitude to Africans as Victorian missionaries.

    No such thing as a bad 'un.

    They dont call us "treasure Ireland" for nothing!


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    #93
    lola85
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    Dual wheels wrote: »
    I’m bloody sick of it and this thing of being guilted over the famine... there’s supposed to be a homeless crisis here and 30% on the housing list are foreigners and yet they want to bring in a boat load more of scroungers, they let too many foreigners into this country, I was up at the all Ireland last Sunday and Dublin is like a slum now with nothing but blacks and Chinese and Indians all scrounging off the taxpayer, I don’t blame England one bit for voting for brexit

    Surprisingly there isn’t a political party who supports your views.


    You should start one.


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    #94
    Melina Thankful Topic
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    Even if you deported every immigrant from the country, there'd still be people on the street/in b&bs/hotels. Stop blaming immigrants for dismal consecutive governments.


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    #95
    ShamNNspace
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    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    archer22 wrote: »
    That was a great idea to bomb the sh1t out of Libya alright and open the floodgates to Europe.
    Supporting headchoppers in Syria was another great idea and opened up the floodgates to Europe.

    And now they want to do the same to Iran!...good old western" freedom and democracy" at work eh :rolleyes:

    Have to agree, why the fcuk is Europe not strongly demanding the USA takes them. They created the mess with their phony wars.
    I'm afraid France and the UK along with that vile American woman and their shower had a lot to do with the utter destruction of Libya a functioning country which is now bandit country and a place where they hold open air slave markets in the 21st century. Maybe if they had to house some of these refugees.. Migrants whatever they are they might begin to realise that there are consequences to their actions


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    #96
    Stephen15
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    Did the government ask the Irish people did they want to take the migrants no they are being imposed on us against our will. Government won't consult with the people about immigration as they know the response will not be negative look at the situation with the direct provision centres which are being imposed on communities against their will and they weren't even consulted.

    They are supposed to be representing the best interests of the Irish people yet they are doing this behind our backs without our permission or without any cold hard evidence as to how this will benefit Ireland. The government has not explained how this will benefit Ireland so if there is no benefit to Ireland why are we doing it?


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    #97
    Bonniedog
    Registered Users Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Even if you deported every immigrant from the country, there'd still be people on the street/in b&bs/hotels. Stop blaming immigrants for dismal consecutive governments.


    That has to be one of the weakest arguments.

    You have 10,000 people who have no house, so you import another ten 10,000 who need a house. Brilliant!

    Its the same as excusing rape and other crimes committed by people who shouldn't be here on basis that some Irish person would have done it.

    One thing the Pollyannas might find difficult to explain is why there have been thousands of mutilations of female girls of immigrants here; either performed here or on children sent back to whatever kip they were supposed to be fleeing.

    Hard to rationalise that on basis that there would probably have been a spate of mutilations of little girls in Naas anyway, isn't it?


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    #98
    ILoveYourVibes
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    Where are they from Syria?

    Edit I checked they are from Libya.


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    #99
    Stephen15
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    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Where are they from Syria?

    Edit I checked they are from Libya.

    No they are from Sudan, Côte D'Ivoire and Mali


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    #100
    Vic_08
    Registered Users Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Did the government ask the Irish people did theynwant to take the migrants no they are being imposed on us against our will. Government won't consult with the people about immigration as they know the response will not be negative look at the situation with the direct provision centres which are being imposed on communities against their will and they weren't even consulted.

    They are supposed to be representing the best interests of the Irish people yet they are doing this behind our backs without our permission or without any cold hard evidence as to how this will benefit Ireland. The government has not explained how this will benefit Ireland so if there is no benefit to Ireland why are we doing it?

    That is not how a representative democracy works, you don't get consulted on decisions made by governments with the exception of specific constitutional changes. You vote for your TDs and the government formed pretty much get to do what ever the fukk they like, want a change then vote for someone else.

    Politicians acting in the interests of everyone bar their constituents is par for the course, better get used to it as the Irish electorate put the same gobshytes into office term after term no matter how badly they do their jobs.


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    #101
    Melina Thankful Topic
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    Bonniedog wrote: »
    Deleted User wrote: »
    Even if you deported every immigrant from the country, there'd still be people on the street/in b&bs/hotels. Stop blaming immigrants for dismal consecutive governments.


    That has to be one of the weakest arguments.

    You have 10,000 people who have no house, so you import another ten 10,000 who need a house. Brilliant!

    Its the same as excusing rape and other crimes committed by people who shouldn't be here on basis that some Irish person would have done it.

    One thing the Pollyannas might find difficult to explain is why there have been thousands of mutilations of female girls of immigrants here; either performed here or on children sent back to whatever kip they were supposed to be fleeing.

    Hard to rationalise that on basis that there would probably have been a spate of mutilations of little girls in Naas anyway, isn't it?

    I have no qualms with gurriers being deported but this guff about immigrants being a drain on resources is exactly that, unadulterated nonsense. It's a convenient excuse to have the paupers fighting amongst each other while the wealthy run off with all the money. A tale as old as time.


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    #102
    Overheal
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    Vic beat me to it. You have your will exercised every election day.


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    #103
    Atlantic Dawn
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    How many are we taking, whoy is it never revealled in the do gooder press release to quantify how many we are taking? 25 for Clontarf or Foxrock would be fun.


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    #104
    ILoveYourVibes
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    Stephen15 wrote: »
    No they are from Sudan, Côte D'Ivoire and Mali
    Oops sorry it said the libyan cost ...i assumed it was libya because of the civil war there.


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    #105
    Bonniedog
    Registered Users Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I have no qualms with gurriers being deported but this guff about immigrants being a drain on resources is exactly that, unadulterated nonsense. It's a convenient excuse to have the paupers fighting amongst each other while the wealthy run off with all the money. A tale as old as time.


    You believe whatever fairy tale about socialism you wish. A lot of the immigrants are fleeing your ideal and its aftermath.

    In the real world, meanwhile, the practical gains won by working people like unions, schools, hospitals, public housing, public services, safe streets are under threat from mass immigration.

    And guess what? The "left" and the real right - as in the race to the bottom employers - are all on the same side, waving the same rainbow flags and **** over diversity.


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    #106
    Stephen15
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    Vic_08 wrote: »
    That is not how a representative democracy works, you don't get consulted on decisions made by governments with the exception of specific constitutional changes. You vote for your TDs and the government formed pretty much get to do what ever the fukk they like, want a change then vote for someone else.

    Politicians acting in the interests of everyone bar their constituents is par for the course, better get used to it as the Irish electorate put the same gobshytes into office term after term no matter how badly they do their jobs.

    I'm not saying there has to be a referendum but there should be some sort of consultation where the people are asked particularly when it comes to a sensitive topic like immigration and actual peoples representation groups not NGOs with vested interests.

    Look at for example the direct provision centres why aren't the locals asked do they want it in their local area?


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    #107
    Melina Thankful Topic
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    Bonniedog wrote: »
    Deleted User wrote: »
    I have no qualms with gurriers being deported but this guff about immigrants being a drain on resources is exactly that, unadulterated nonsense. It's a convenient excuse to have the paupers fighting amongst each other while the wealthy run off with all the money. A tale as old as time.


    You believe whatever fairy tale about socialism you wish. A lot of the immigrants are fleeing your ideal and its aftermath.

    In the real world, meanwhile, the practical gains won by working people like unions, schools, hospitals, public housing, public services, safe streets are under threat from mass immigration.

    And guess what? The "left" and the real right - as in the race to the bottom employers - are all on the same side, waving the same rainbow flags and **** over diversity.


    Ehhhh, they're coming to Europe, the most socialist continent on the planet...


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    #108
    Overheal
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    Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »
    Actually in both directions they probably did. Not that their status was refugees either.

    As for Americans commenting on European affairs. Stop destabilising the Middle East, stop allying with the head choppers, stop destroying functional countries in the North Africa. Stop lecturing Europe on its handling of the problems caused by the genocidal empire.

    I missed this post earlier, FYI I agree with everything you said in bold. As for my commentary you can take it or leave it. Irish do enough lecturing of Americans on this forum that I don't see why one would have any issue with the inverse occurring.


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    #109
    Overheal
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Ehhhh, they're coming to Europe, the most socialist continent on the planet...

    by headcount or landmass :pac:


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    #110
    _Kaiser_
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    Fan of Netflix wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/simoncoveney/status/1164910757949136896

    It seems the bleeding heart catchphrase these days is "vulnerable" <whatever>. It immediately makes the subject of said phrase immune to criticism, questions or objection. Anyone attempting to do so to be labelled as racist/xenophobic/discriminatory etc...

    The other thing worth noting here is Coveney (who many bizarrely rate as a good potential Taoiseach - probably the same people who thought Leo's ethnic background, sexuality and age qualified him for the post!) is a wholehearted supporter of this "come one, come all" strategy and efforts to "diversify" European nations (and ultimately do away with the concept of national borders entirely).

    It's not that surprising given his support of the late Peter Sutherland, who is on record for pushing such an agenda, but probably worth remembering when people get caught up in his Brexit commentary (of course he's against it - no one leaves the EU) or notions that he's somehow "better" than Leo V.

    Leo may be weak, superficial and without any conviction or direction... But he does serve a useful purpose in limiting the damage the likes of Coveney would do given the opportunity.

    Remember that come the next General election. I certainly will be.


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    #111
    Bonniedog
    Registered Users Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Ehhhh, they're coming to Europe, the most socialist continent on the planet...



    No. Socialism is what was in USSR, eastern Europe, Ethipoia. Angola, Mozambique and so on....

    Great success.


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    #112
    JP Liz V1
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    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    Something as serious as this should have been put to the people

    I agree but they know it be a large NO
    https://forumofgames.com/




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    #113
    Padre_Pio
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    youzack wrote: »
    English being the most common second language in the world , you better Get used to EU dumping these "refugees" on Ireland now that we will be the only English speaking country in the EU.
    It will be packaged as the humanitarian thing to do , make their transition to life in the EU easier as they can speak the same language as the native Irish folk

    I would imagine most would speak French in fairness.


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    #114
    Melina Thankful Topic
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    Bonniedog wrote: »
    Deleted User wrote: »
    Ehhhh, they're coming to Europe, the most socialist continent on the planet...



    No. Socialism is what was in USSR, eastern Europe, Ethipoia. Angola, Mozambique and so on....

    Great success.

    Unadulterated wrongness.

    USSR was never socialist. Ethiopia and Mozambique made an attempt at it decades ago post colonialism. . Abysmal failure. The current Ethiopian constitution is younger than me.

    Angola may have Marxist principles in its constitution but they ceased all pretence of being socialist in the early 90s.


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    #115
    Irish Guitarist
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    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    LOL. Im always amused by the standard of post in these threads. Imagine if that was how things worked. You rescue someone from potentially drowning a sea, so now they live with you. Same when fire brigade rescues someone, they go live with the fire brigade members.

    LOL.

    LOL. That's an absolutely ridiculous comparison. Firemen aren't introducing new people into Europe that wouldn't otherwise be here. Why would anyone have to live with them? And they're doing an actual legal job.

    LOL


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    #116
    kildare lad
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    Where are we going to put them , in more hotels so the owners can get rich of the tax papers. There's been enough trouble committed in German and Sweden by young male immigrants without bringing it over hear.


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    #117
    enricoh
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    kildare lad wrote: »
    Where are we going to put them , in more hotels so the owners can get rich of the tax papers. There's been enough trouble committed in German and Sweden by young male immigrants without bringing it over hear.

    if theres less hotel rooms available and room prices go up so what the bloody tourists can pay the extra.
    Coveney gets to look good here n thats all that matters.

    A lad i know has moved into a caravan with his missus, at the side of his parents house. He was sick of working to live, paying e1500 rent every month. Working paddy may move to trailer parks! The government or one of its quangos rents almost everything here for social housing , outbidding everyone.
    What could possibly go wrong?!!


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    #118
    road_high
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    This is really depressing- it seems we have absolutely no control or say over our own country. What value are these going to add to our economy? Vast majority are uneducated and culturally mismatched. Assume another 50/60 of these is another 50 or more houses our taxpayers have to stump up for. Meanwhile the working Irish can barely afford to rent or buy the same


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    #119
    Sonny noggs
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    No wonder the British voted for Brexit.


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    #120
    lola85
    Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭lola85


    Which party is there to vote for that supports views here?

    People saying remember this come election time, but who is there to vote for?


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    #121
    Mad_maxx
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    The government could agree to take in a hundred thousand " refugees" tomorrow and the media would heap praise upon them, as would much of the opposition parties

    We are sitting ducks for mass bogus immigration as we have a singular kind of public discourse in this country


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