Could James Bond ever be Jane Bond?

Paddy Cow · 23-08-2019 07:53PM #1

Personally I don't think so. It's such an iconic male role, to change it to a female would kill the franchise. They could create a new franchise with a female as a lead but 007 will always be James.

Raconteuse · 23-08-2019 07:55PM

I'd hope not. That would be cringey pandering and tokenism taken to insane levels.

Wibbs · 23-08-2019 08:01PM

No. /thread.

I wish for a nice change Hollywood, TV and other media hacks would - and bear with me folks, mad crazy thought alert here - write new iconic characters for women, rather than take an existing male role and jam a woman into it in some first year college level hail mary attempt to be "diverse" and "right on". Though much of it is to get column inches and widen up a market demographic.

Your Face · 23-08-2019 08:06PM

Yeah why not, cant be any worse than the last few films with Daniel "License to kill you with boredom" Craig.

0gac3yjefb5sv7 · 23-08-2019 08:10PM

Released just after Brendan Jones's Diary

Potential-Monke · 23-08-2019 08:11PM

Yeah, why not shur! We can also have:
- Jane Wick
- Darlene Vader
- Patricia Bateman
- Hannibal Lucy
- Indiana Jane
- Jane McClane
- Jane Sparrow (christ, there's some amount of John/Jack characters!)
- Martina McFly
- Janet T. Kirk
- Lynda Skywalker
- Dr. Emma Brown
- Norma Bates
- Julie Winnfield
- Alexa Foley
- Obi-Wanda Kenobi
- Cpt. Jean (Jeeeen) Luc Picard
- Mrs. Blonde
- Tanya Montana
- Freda Krueger
- Rita Deckard
- YOlanDA...

Wanderer78 · 23-08-2019 08:11PM

Jane, formally James, you know it's gonna happen!

kneemos · 23-08-2019 08:11PM

Actually the next Bond will be a black woman.
It's only a patronising gesture though, the male 007 comes back during the film.

suicide_circus · 23-08-2019 08:12PM

do women not deserve their own franchise? to write their own stories rather than essentially putting an archetypal male character is a skirt?

odyssey06 · 23-08-2019 08:13PM

A chameleon like James that could become Jane and vice versa... thatd be handy as opposed to everyone knowing who James is. Sometimes I think they just send 007 as a decoy to cause mayhem and 001 - 006 do all the real work. Of course they dont have aston martin or play against the bad guys in the casino.

HorrorScope · 23-08-2019 08:14PM

Not a hope.

23-08-2019 08:15PM

They can make it but they cant make me watch it, what wibbs said, devise new characters and story lines geared towards women.

Jaysus is every male character ever created going to get a female makeover, are Hollyweird that devoid of ideas.

In saying that the Bond films are lacking of late, if they do go the jane Bond route at least give her a different name and number.

Sofiztikated · 23-08-2019 08:16PM

If it was a strong story, with good acting, action set pieces, and a hook of a theme song, I really wouldn't give a ****.

Church on Tuesday · 23-08-2019 08:17PM

Just keep iconic male and female characters within their respective genders please, it's getting laughable now.

Make no mistake though, the introduction of a female Bond in the upcoming Bond film (which is fine in the context of that films story) is a kite flying exercise to see how the general public take to the idea of a future female Bond.

Judging by the reaction; not good.

odyssey06 · 23-08-2019 08:17PM

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Yeah, why not shur! We can also have:
- Jane Wick
- Darlene Vader
- Patricia Bateman
- Hannibal Lucy
- Indiana Jane
- Jane McClane
- Jane Sparrow (christ, there's some amount of John/Jack characters!)
- Martina McFly
- Janet T. Kirk
- Lynda Skywalker
- Dr. Emma Brown
- Norma Bates
- Julie Winnfield
- Alexa Foley
- Obi-Wanda Kenobi
- Cpt. Jean (Jeeeen) Luc Picard.

You mean Janeway...

Let me tell you I would follow Picard into battle. On Voyager the Captain would have met an unfortunate transporter accident.

Indiana Jane might have worked!

Paddy Cow · 23-08-2019 08:17PM

Pheonix10 wrote: »

Released just after Brendan Jones's Diary

I think that would actually be hilarious

FunLover18 · 23-08-2019 08:18PM

kneemos wrote: »

Actually the next Bond will be a black woman.
It's only a patronising gesture though, the male 007 comes back during the film.

No. The next 007 will be a black woman with Bond starting the film in retirement. 007 is a code name and there's literally no reason why someone other than James Bond can't hold it.

To answer the question in the title I don't think Bond should be gender flipped, his character is intrinsically male.

Tammy! · 23-08-2019 08:20PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

You mean Janeway...

Let me tell you I would follow Picard into battle. On Voyager the Captain would have met an unfortunate transporter accident.!

Janeway was a good capt'n. I liked Voyager!!

kneemos · 23-08-2019 08:21PM

FunLover18 wrote: »

No. The next 007 will be a black woman with Bond starting the film in retirement. 007 is a code name and there's literally no reason why someone other than James Bond can't hold it.

To answer the question in the title I don't think Bond should be gender flipped, his character is intrinsically male.

007 is Bond in fairness.

Hammer89 · 23-08-2019 08:21PM

Could a female Bond work the gadgets? Would a female Bond get distracted by your man's cute cat and miss a chance to escape? Would a female Bond get pissed on Martinis and start crying about job satisfaction? These are the things we must consider.

Hammer89 · 23-08-2019 08:25PM

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Yeah, why not shur! We can also have:
- Jane Wick
- Darlene Vader
- Patricia Bateman
- Hannibal Lucy
- Indiana Jane
- Jane McClane
- Jane Sparrow (christ, there's some amount of John/Jack characters!)
- Martina McFly
- Janet T. Kirk
- Lynda Skywalker
- Dr. Emma Brown
- Norma Bates
- Julie Winnfield
- Alexa Foley
- Obi-Wanda Kenobi
- Cpt. Jean (Jeeeen) Luc Picard
- Mrs. Blonde
- Tanya Montana
- Freda Krueger
- Rita Deckard
- YOlanDA...

Francisstein

pgj2015 · 23-08-2019 08:26PM

kneemos wrote: »

Actually the next Bond will be a black woman.
It's only a patronising gesture though, the male 007 comes back during the film.

she will be a black muslim lesbian in a wheelchair, thats what i heard.

FunLover18 · 23-08-2019 08:26PM

kneemos wrote: »

007 is Bond in fairness.

Bond is 007, we literally see him awarded the code name in CR. Anyone can be 007 though. Same way a woman can be M (or Q in the future).

BorneTobyWilde · 23-08-2019 08:29PM

They could introduce a sidekick, and then she could break off and do films on her alone, that would be okay. Can't be called Bond though, maybe Ms Hurricane Twister

Tammy! · 23-08-2019 08:31PM

GI Jane.. oh no they already did that and it didn't work!!

Jenny Maguire?

Paddy Cow · 23-08-2019 08:31PM

Wibbs wrote: »

No. /thread.

I wish for a nice change Hollywood, TV and other media hacks would - and bear with me folks, mad crazy thought alert here - write new iconic characters for women, rather than take an existing male role and jam a woman into it in some first year college level hail mary attempt to be "diverse" and "right on". Though much of it is to get column inches and widen up a market demographic.

I completely agree with you. I don't know why James becoming Jane was even given any thought but it's something I've come across in the media, albeit it with (mostly) scepticism. You'd swear that females weren't capable of being leads. The role of Ripley was originally written for a man but I can't imagine anyone other than Sigourney Weaver playing that part. She nailed it. Same with Sarah Connors, Xena Warrior Princess, Kill Bill etc. Females absolutely can carry a film/franchise but it needs to be original.

Dravokivich · 23-08-2019 08:31PM

I dont get the need to change james to Jane. Why not just have a strong female character in that world that isnt a secretary or an adoptive mother?

Potential-Monke · 23-08-2019 08:32PM

Oh, they could reboot the Ghostbusters with an all female cast, and make Janine male, I've no doubt that... would... wait... *Fry stare*

greencap · 23-08-2019 08:33PM

Surprising myself by saying yes.

Yes its probably motivated by that bullsht pandering and the hashtag mentality, but it could work.

James Bond has retired due to health and age reasons (prostate issues and STD's - cancer or virus related, you be the judge), he's finished with his service but his number stays on the books.

In one of the films he kills another 'number' so this is a department of multiple agents, you'd need female agents as well as part of espionage, so its not completely out of the bounds of the story that hey in walks a female candidate.

It could breath some new life into the franchise, open new possibilities beyond the usual storyline of James beats up a freak, or pushes him into a blender of some sort, defuses a bomb and then shags a hottie.

I'd want them to be careful with the name though, if it came out as Jane Bond or something cheezy like that it might be too much.

They could have a bit where female 007 plugs a gunshot victims would with a tampon like bodyguards are trained to in real life.

James Bond couldn't pull that one off cause he's male and therefore it wouldn't be believable that he just carries tampons around ... unless it was explained in the intro that his prostate is really acting up.

A transgender Bond with aspergers/autism issues is another idea. This bond might have excellent recall or mathematical abilities yet lack emotional restraint and social awareness.

Paddy Cow · 23-08-2019 08:33PM

Hammer89 wrote: »

Could a female Bond work the gadgets? Would a female Bond get distracted by your man's cute cat and miss a chance to escape? Would a female Bond get pissed on Martinis and start crying about job satisfaction? These are the things we must consider.

Would a female Bond get paid the same? Gender pay gap and all that :P

whisky_galore · 23-08-2019 08:36PM

No. Even though I'm fairly tired of the franchise, it's well jaded by now.
Wouldn't cross the road to watch JB.

Could James Bond ever be Jane Bond?

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