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  • #62
    pgj2015
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    people who blame the government for everything.


  • #63
    Still waters
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Still waters


    Deleted User wrote: »
    1.People who expect their views to be treated seriously when they haven't the work ethic to spend the two or three minutes of their life necessary to know the basics of the language they're speaking. Lazy people, in other words.
    2. People who don't know the difference between Your (possessive case - e.g. your house) and You're (You are!!!!!)
    3. People who think "It's" is a possessive case. It's = it is. Always! It's raining, it's pouring, it's snowing.... Your possessive case is a simple "its" - its windows; its properties; its grammatical exigencies. No apostrophe!
    4. They're = They are (always). Their (possessive case) - e.g. their coats. There - e.g. over there.
    5. I/you/they/we saw but I/you/they/we have (we've) seen. I/you/they/we seen ==> wrong!!!
    6. I/you/they/we did but I/you/they/we have done. I/you/they/we done==> wrong!!!
    7. People who get all defensive when crap spelling and syntax is seen for the sign of laziness that it is.

    5 and 6 in particular are the biggest red flags in spoken English about a person's education and lack of work ethic. It doesn't look good at all, and most people notice even if they're too polite to say it to you.

    There their, it's ok


  • #64
    JupiterKid
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 13,528 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Passing casual derogratory remarks on other people - you can be sure they will do the same to you in the company of others.

    Intolerant of minorities. Being a know-all. Being a gossip. Poor personal hygiene. Talking about themselves all the time.


  • #65
    pgj2015
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    women who go for bad boys.


  • #66
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,679 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    1.People who expect their views to be treated seriously when they haven't the work ethic to spend the two or three minutes of their life necessary to know the basics of the language they're speaking. Lazy people, in other words.
    2. People who don't know the difference between Your (possessive case - e.g. your house) and You're (You are!!!!!)
    3. People who think "It's" is a possessive case. It's = it is. Always! It's raining, it's pouring, it's snowing.... Your possessive case is a simple "its" - its windows; its properties; its grammatical exigencies. No apostrophe!
    4. They're = They are (always). Their (possessive case) - e.g. their coats. There - e.g. over there.
    5. I/you/they/we saw but I/you/they/we have (we've) seen. I/you/they/we seen ==> wrong!!!
    6. I/you/they/we did but I/you/they/we have done. I/you/they/we done==> wrong!!!
    7. People who get all defensive when crap spelling and syntax is seen for the sign of laziness that it is.

    5 and 6 in particular are the biggest red flags in spoken English about a person's education and lack of work ethic. It doesn't look good at all, and most people notice even if they're too polite to say it to you.

    Let's/let us/lets say for example that you came across a person who didn't have the best grasp when it comes to your/you're etc but they were kind and decent human beings. Would you cast aside what's underneath because their grammar was/is terrible?


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  • #67
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    1.People who expect their views to be treated seriously when they haven't the work ethic to spend the two or three minutes of their life necessary to know the basics of the language they're speaking. Lazy people, in other words.
    2. People who don't know the difference between Your (possessive case - e.g. your house) and You're (You are!!!!!)
    3. People who think "It's" is a possessive case. It's = it is. Always! It's raining, it's pouring, it's snowing.... Your possessive case is a simple "its" - its windows; its properties; its grammatical exigencies. No apostrophe!
    4. They're = They are (always). Their (possessive case) - e.g. their coats. There - e.g. over there.
    5. I/you/they/we saw but I/you/they/we have (we've) seen. I/you/they/we seen ==> wrong!!!
    6. I/you/they/we did but I/you/they/we have done. I/you/they/we done==> wrong!!!
    7. People who get all defensive when crap spelling and syntax is seen for the sign of laziness that it is.

    5 and 6 in particular are the biggest red flags in spoken English about a person's education and lack of work ethic. It doesn't look good at all, and most people notice even if they're too polite to say it to you.

    TBF, first post thats a bit of a red flag itself!


  • #68
    Leg End Reject
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Let's/let us/lets say for example that you came across a person who didn't have the best grasp when it comes to your/you're etc but they were kind and decent human beings. Would you cast aside what's underneath because their grammar was/is terrible?

    I'd find it very hard not to judge unless there's a specific learning disability.
    That is a reason to dislike me, but at least I appreciate the irony.
    https://forumofgames.com/index.php




  • #69
    [Deleted User]
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    Roger Hassenforder wrote: »
    TBF, first post thats a bit of a red flag itself!

    See point 7 above.


  • #70
    Dtp1979
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    EmmetSpiceland wrote: »
    And bootcut jeans.

    Skinny jeans.


  • #71
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    See point 7 above.

    What if their just tick rather then lazy?

    Its a bit like saying people too lazy to do their own differential calculus is a red flag


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  • #72
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Roger Hassenforder wrote: »
    What if their just tick rather then lazy?

    I could of being ticked off too.


  • #73
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Let's/let us/lets say for example that you came across a person who didn't have the best grasp when it comes to your/you're etc but they were kind and decent human beings. Would you cast aside what's underneath because their grammar was/is terrible?

    If they were looking for a job where they'd be representing the company their application form wouldn't even get them to the interview stage. How would you even gently say to somebody 'I have to proofread your letter for the "I seen" and "We done" stuff before you send it out on company-headed paper?' You couldn't, so just ditch the application and get somebody who can do that sort of thing as part of their job.


  • #74
    Sardonicat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,444 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    Leg End Reject wrote: »
    I'd find it very hard not to judge unless there's a specific learning disability.
    That is a reason to dislike me, but at least I appreciate the irony.

    You're not always going to know if there's a specific learning disability, though, are you? Older adults who never had dyslexia diagnosed when at school often have trouble with the grammatical errors you pointed out. Just trying to read and write coherently and keep up were a struggle.


  • #75
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    If they were looking for a job where they'd be representing the company their application form wouldn't even get them to the interview stage. How would you even gently say to somebody 'I have to proofread your letter for the "I seen" and "We done" stuff before you send it out on company-headed paper?' You couldn't, so just ditch the application and get somebody who can do that sort of thing as part of their job.

    Youre only disliking them, not giving them a job!


  • #76
    Sardonicat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,444 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    If they were looking for a job where they'd be representing the company their application form wouldn't even get them to the interview stage. How would you even gently say to somebody 'I have to proofread your letter for the "I seen" and "We done" stuff before you send it out on company-headed paper?' You couldn't, so just ditch the application and get somebody who can do that sort of thing as part of their job.
    You obviously haven't received much correspondence from recruitment agencies! I once returned a rejection email with the (many) grammar mistakes corrected.


  • #77
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Skinny jeans.

    Dont mind trying to open a second front to relieve pressure in the other thread where boot cut jeans have been soundly trounced


  • #78
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Roger Hassenforder wrote: »
    What if their just tick rather then lazy?

    They may indeed be spectacularly thick if they can't master a few basic sentences, but they're definitely lazy.
    Roger Hassenforder wrote: »
    Its a bit like saying people too lazy to do their own differential calculus is a red flag

    No; no, it's not.


  • #79
    Leg End Reject
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    Sardonicat wrote: »
    You're not always going to know if there's a specific learning disability, though, are you? Older adults who never hxad dyslexia diagnosed when at school often have trouble with the grammatical errors you pointed out. Just trying to read and write coherently and keep up were a struggle.

    With dyslexia there would be more spelling and grammatical errors to the ones highlighted in that post.

    As I've said, I'm pedantic, and it's a negative trait. But hey, I've enough self-awareness to recognise that.
    https://forumofgames.com/index.php




  • #80
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    They may indeed be spectacularly thick if they can't master a few basic sentences, but they're definitely lazy.

    No; no, it's not.

    "Its" all relative.
    You'll always meet people smarter snd more educated; thicker and less educated; and smarter and less educated.
    Poor grammar isn't necessarily laziness.


  • #81
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,026 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    A fake Kardashian type smile (mouth only eyes dead) for .5 second as they say hello.


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  • #82
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Roger Hassenforder wrote: »
    Poor grammar isn't necessarily laziness.

    When it's something as common as the above 6 mistakes, in the vast majority of cases it is laziness.
    Roger Hassenforder wrote: »
    Youre only disliking them, not giving them a job!

    Red flags exist with employees too, you know? Being unable to spell or talk properly is a red flag because you want your clients to be able to trust your company's work rate/product, and somebody who's still saying "He done" and "They seen" isn't somebody who shows signs of a solid work ethic/much professional development. They may be among the nicest people in the world, but if you can find an equally nice person who can represent the company more professionally then they will lose out.


  • #83
    joe40
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭joe40


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    1.People who expect their views to be treated seriously when they haven't the work ethic to spend the two or three minutes of their life necessary to know the basics of the language they're speaking. Lazy people, in other words.
    2. People who don't know the difference between Your (possessive case - e.g. your house) and You're (You are!!!!!)
    3. People who think "It's" is a possessive case. It's = it is. Always! It's raining, it's pouring, it's snowing.... Your possessive case is a simple "its" - its windows; its properties; its grammatical exigencies. No apostrophe!
    4. They're = They are (always). Their (possessive case) - e.g. their coats. There - e.g. over there.
    5. I/you/they/we saw but I/you/they/we have (we've) seen. I/you/they/we seen ==> wrong!!!
    6. I/you/they/we did but I/you/they/we have done. I/you/they/we done==> wrong!!!
    7. People who get all defensive when crap spelling and syntax is seen for the sign of laziness that it is.

    5 and 6 in particular are the biggest red flags in spoken English about a person's education and lack of work ethic. It doesn't look good at all, and most people notice even if they're too polite to say it to you.

    Anyone this judgemental would be a red flag for me.
    I dislike bad grammar but would never dream of judging another human being purely on that basis.
    Each to their own I suppose.


  • #84
    Sardonicat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,444 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    When it's something as common as the above 6 mistakes, in the vast majority of cases it is laziness.



    Red flags exist with employees too, you know? Being unable to spell or talk properly is a red flag because you want your clients to be able to trust your company's work rate/product, and somebody who's still saying "He done" and "They seen" isn't somebody who shows signs of a solid work ethic/much professional development. They may be among the nicest people in the world, but if you can find an equally nice person who can represent the company more professionally then they will lose out.
    It has nothing to do with work ethic!
    And please don't lecture me on dyslexia. My partner has dyslexia and he can construct a letter with perfect spelling with the aid of a dictionary. He could never grasp grammar at school because he was struggling with reading. I always have to proof read for him to fix the grammatical errors. I can assure you he is neither lazy or stupid.


  • #85
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Sorry about that wrote: »
    A limp handshake.
    It's either a sign of two things.

    Weak character or treachery.


  • #86
    [Deleted User]
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    is convinced the world is hugely worse in their generation than in any previous.

    is convinced their generation is going to save it.

    lectures adults


  • #87
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    joe40 wrote: »
    Anyone this judgemental would be a red flag for me.
    I dislike bad grammar but would never dream of judging another human being purely on that basis.
    Each to their own I suppose.

    agreed 100%

    anyone who knows enough about language to spot those errors should know enough about communication to take the meaning and not be distracted by idiom/delivery

    its an almost textbook example of the difference between knowledge and wisdom imo


  • #88
    Leg End Reject
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    Sardonicat wrote: »
    It has nothing to do with work ethic!
    And please don't lecture me on dyslexia. My partner has dyslexia and he can construct a letter with perfect spelling with the aid of a dictionary. He could never grasp grammar at school because he was struggling with reading. I always have to proof read for him to fix the grammatical errors. I can assure you he is neither lazy or stupid.

    There is a world of a difference between someone with dyslexia and someone who just doesn't bother.

    Only an asshole would judge someone with a specific learning disability. I assure you my posts were not judging those with SEN, and apologise if I've offended you.
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  • #89
    freshpopcorn
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    People who roll there eyes at you because your clearly not good enough for them.

    People who are very prim and proper.


  • #90
    Sardonicat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,444 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    Leg End Reject wrote: »
    There is a world of a difference between someone with dyslexia and someone who just doesn't bother.

    Only an asshole would judge someone with a specific learning disability. I assure you my posts were not judging those with SEN, and apologise if I've offended you.

    My earlier point was that it's not always obvious if someone has an SEN or not simply based on poor grammar. Don't get me wrong, I'm grammar Nazi Supremo and 'official' documents or journalism full of grammatical error boils my p1ss. But here on boards or someplace like it, if people who have dyslexia or who just never really grasped grammar ( some people do just find it really difficult )want to post without breaking a sweat, then that's fine by me. Sure, some people know better and can't be arsed but that's their problem, not mine.

    BTW, I was responding to another poster. What made you think that you had said something that offended me?


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  • #91
    One eyed Jack
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    I’m still trying to figure out how would anyone know anything about a persons spelling and grammar if they’re meeting that person for the first time?

    That was the question posed in the opening post.

    A red flag for me upon meeting someone for the first time and taking an instant dislike to them would be if they came across a bit shifty, condescending or patronising.


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