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All Ireland Senior Hurling (Liam Mccarthy Cup) 2019

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  • #4802
    Hawkeye9212
    Closed Accounts Posts: 325 ✭✭Hawkeye9212


    jluv wrote: »
    But as a KK person I can see where he is coming from. As a rival supporter you'd support the decision of the ref and welcome it. But...in light of how the game was being reffed it was a harsh decision.

    Two wrongs don't make a right.


  • #4803
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭threeball


    Lefty Bicek wrote: »
    Limpy wrote: »
    Dowling is surely going to win that.

    I'd give it to Callanan for the goal against Wexford.

    Best goal since John Fenton against Limerick.

    The traditional skill of ground hurling beats any of that new-fangled batting ****e any day of the year.

    :D

    I think shinty is the game for you


  • #4804
    jammiedodgers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭jammiedodgers


    Can someone buy Jackie Tyrell a pair of socks!


  • #4805
    Hawkeye9212
    Closed Accounts Posts: 325 ✭✭Hawkeye9212


    This Sunday Game format is rubbish. All of the lads except Derek and Cyril look like they are attending a wedding.


  • #4806
    Road-Hog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,412 ✭✭✭Road-Hog


    Hawkeye9212 wrote: »
    This Sunday Game format is rubbish. All of the lads look like they are attending a wedding.

    Do sky tv do a highlights program.....?


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  • #4807
    marvin80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,818 ✭✭✭marvin80


    Limpy wrote: »
    Those "liam" licence plates are fair annoying. There on every second car to u see

    The proceeds go towards the holiday fund so no harm


  • #4808
    TheRiverman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,337 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    crossman47 wrote: »
    I haven't seen any comment on the point given by Hawk Eye. I'm convinced there is something wrong. There is no way a goalie can bend his wrist backwards so the ball in his hand has gone behind the crossbar.

    Brendan Cummins just briefly mentioned that he wouldn't agree that it was a point.I would definitely like to hear more goalkeepers views on it.


  • #4809
    Lefty Bicek
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Lefty Bicek


    threeball wrote: »
    I think shinty is the game for you

    It might well be.

    The death of ground hurling depresses me greatly.


  • #4810
    Mokuba
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,690 ✭✭✭Mokuba


    A red card, while damaging, is not a death knell and plenty of teams have gone on to win or draw games after getting them.

    Off the top of my head, the last 3 red cards Tipperary have gotten in the championship:
    • v Wexford this year - down by 5 and came back to win
    • v Waterford last year - down by 11 and came back to draw
    • v Limerick in 2016 - Played virtually the whole game with 14 and won well.
    Very surprised by how Kilkenny capitulated after the (deserved) red card, tactically so poor.


  • #4811
    marvin80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,818 ✭✭✭marvin80


    mountgomery burns wrote: »
    It's a bit disappointing to see pundits incapable of parking their allegiances when giving analysis.

    Getting well paid for it, if you can be impartial then you shouldn't be given the opportunity. To be fair it's not just about today, as an example I've a lot of time for Cummins but he wasn't objective discussing whether Heffernan should be banned for the final the last day either.

    Shefflin today and Tyrrell tonight two more embarrassing examples as well


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  • #4812
    marvin80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,818 ✭✭✭marvin80


    Mokuba wrote: »
    Very surprised by how Kilkenny capitulated after the (deserved) red card, tactically so poor.

    Before the red I felt Tipp were atrocious and Kilkenny should have had them dead and buried. A Kilkenny team from a few years ago would have punished them.

    Once Hogan got the red I couldn't see them winning.


  • #4813
    holyhead
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭holyhead


    marvin80 wrote: »
    Before the red I felt Tipp were atrocious and Kilkenny should have had them dead and buried. A Kilkenny team from a few years ago would have punished them.

    Once Hogan got the red I couldn't see them winning.

    To be fair the Kilkenny team from a few years was possibly the greatest the game has ever seen so comparing this side to that is a bit pointless. Kilkenny lack goals and ultimately that was our achilles heel. We suffered a self inflicted wound and Tipp took full advantage. Such is sport.


  • #4814
    Hawkeye9212
    Closed Accounts Posts: 325 ✭✭Hawkeye9212


    Cody's comment about the refs taking their time to make a decision is embarrassing.


  • #4815
    Hawkeye9212
    Closed Accounts Posts: 325 ✭✭Hawkeye9212


    Road-Hog wrote: »
    Do sky tv do a highlights program.....?

    Nope.


  • #4816
    Mokuba
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,690 ✭✭✭Mokuba


    marvin80 wrote: »
    Before the red I felt Tipp were atrocious and Kilkenny should have had them dead and buried. A Kilkenny team from a few years ago would have punished them.

    Once Hogan got the red I couldn't see them winning.

    We were very poor in the opening 15 minutes but I believe the tide was already turning - we were starting to win our individual battles and had already gone ahead in the game despite playing probably our worst hurling of the whole year in the opening 15, Limerick game included.

    Not only that but in that period we were denied a fairly obvious penalty which would have had us a couple in front by the time the red card was given.

    It was a turning point for sure, but not as much of one as some are making out, and as I pointed out a few minutes ago it isn't a death knell and a team can respond to it in many ways. Kilkenny chose to persist with the same bad tactic for 35 minutes.

    I'll have to do a full rewatch as my perspective is that from the stands so I could have missed things, but that's my view on it anyway.


  • #4817
    crossman47
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,602 ✭✭✭crossman47


    Hawkeye9212 wrote: »
    Cody's comment about the refs taking their time to make a decision is embarrassing.

    Yes. They wanted to be sure they were right which is what Cody says he wanted.


  • #4818
    Road-Hog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,412 ✭✭✭Road-Hog


    marvin80 wrote: »
    Shefflin today and Tyrrell tonight two more embarrassing examples as well

    What shyte was shefflin spouting today.....had to do with sky’s version today......in a pub in south of Spain.......RTÉ should never have participating county’s ex players no matter how legendary doing any analysis.....they simply can’t be expected to be impartial.....there surely cant a shortage of neutral players.......


  • #4819
    jluv
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,897 ✭✭✭jluv


    Hawkeye9212 wrote: »
    Two wrongs don't make a right.

    But if the decision was against you.? Two wrongs just means two wrongs.. I honestly don't think that ref or linesman saw what happened. One player going in hard. One player stepped back. Got caught. No objection. Player makes a meal of it, ref put in a position. For those critics saying the kk anylists are playing it down. Of course you would. If any other team had to defend it they w..


  • #4820
    slegs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,051 ✭✭✭slegs


    crossman47 wrote: »
    Yes. They wanted to be sure they were right which is what Cody says he wanted.

    He only wanted them to do what he wanted not to be right. Kilkenny don’t lose very much and aren’t taking it very well. The comments for Shefflin and Tyrell on television re the sending off are disgraceful. It was a clear red card irrespective of Barrett’s reaction. Cody also very ungracious. It’s not like they lost by a point. They were hammered. I think Tipp would have won easily anyway (we will never know). Kilkenny have a style that is based on aggression and a sending off is always possible when you play on the edge. All this playing the victim stuff smells of sour grapes.


  • #4821
    Road-Hog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,412 ✭✭✭Road-Hog


    Lefty Bicek wrote: »
    IS there any need for it ?

    Will he retire from his permanent position. I believe he retired from his part time job a couple of years ago (teaching)....? He can’t go on forever surely....would not be a time to hang up the ‘black base-ball’ cap 🧢......?


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  • #4822
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭threeball


    They need to sort this Hawkeye sh1t out. Hogan just said there wasn't a hope it was over. Like most suspected.


  • #4823
    slegs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,051 ✭✭✭slegs


    Graeme Mulcahy coming across really well on Sunday Game. Never even seen him interviewed before


  • #4824
    RMAOK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,325 ✭✭✭✭RMAOK


    threeball wrote: »
    They need to sort this Hawkeye sh1t out. Hogan just said there wasn't a hope it was over. Like most suspected.

    Agreed. It only shows the potential flight of the ball, not the fact that it actually crossed the crossbar.


  • #4825
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭threeball


    slegs wrote: »
    crossman47 wrote: »
    Yes. They wanted to be sure they were right which is what Cody says he wanted.

    He only wanted them to do what he wanted not to be right. Kilkenny don’t lose very much and aren’t taking it very well. The comments for Shefflin and Tyrell on television re the sending off are disgraceful. It was a clear red card irrespective of Barrett’s reaction. Cody also very ungracious. It’s not like they lost by a point. They were hammered. I think Tipp would have won easily anyway (we will never know). Kilkenny have a style that is based on aggression and a sending off is always possible when you play on the edge. All this playing the victim stuff smells of sour grapes.

    From the 3 we've heard from, Cody, Shefflin and Tyrell it's been fairly head in the sand ungracious stuff.


  • #4826
    Hawkeye9212
    Closed Accounts Posts: 325 ✭✭Hawkeye9212


    jluv wrote: »
    But if the decision was against you.? Two wrongs just means two wrongs.. I honestly don't think that ref or linesman saw what happened. One player going in hard. One player stepped back. Got caught. No objection. Player makes a meal of it, ref put in a position. For those critics saying the kk anylists are playing it down. Of course you would. If any other team had to defend it they w..

    I'd be angry at Hogan if I were you. He was reckless and paid for it.


  • #4827
    rebel girl 15
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,247 ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    Quit the personal attacks


  • #4828
    me89
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭me89


    TheRiverman wrote: »
    Brendan Cummins just briefly mentioned that he wouldn't agree that it was a point.I would definitely like to hear more goalkeepers views on it.

    I was standing in the Hill near the Cusack stand and it definitely looked over the bar.


  • #4829
    Realt Dearg Sec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,121 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Road-Hog wrote: »
    Mokuba wrote: »
    A red card, while damaging, is not a death knell and plenty of teams have gone on to win or draw games after getting them.

    Off the top of my head, the last 3 red cards Tipperary have gotten in the championship:
    • v Wexford this year - down by 5 and came back to win
    • v Waterford last year - down by 11 and came back to draw
    • v Limerick in 2016 - Played virtually the whole game with 14 and won well.
    Very surprised by how Kilkenny capitulated after the (deserved) red card, tactically so poor.

    Will the ‘red/lobster faced one’ be tempted to throw in the towel this year after kk’s worst final defeat in living memory.....?
    Any chance you'd be tempted to throw in the towel on your posting career? Haven't nearly the number of highlights, and many more embarrassments.


  • #4830
    holyhead
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭holyhead


    slegs wrote: »
    He only wanted them to do what he wanted not to be right. Kilkenny don’t lose very much and aren’t taking it very well. The comments for Shefflin and Tyrell on television re the sending off are disgraceful. It was a clear red card irrespective of Barrett’s reaction. Cody also very ungracious. It’s not like they lost by a point. They were hammered. I think Tipp would have won easily anyway (we will never know). Kilkenny have a style that is based on aggression and a sending off is always possible when you play on the edge. All this playing the victim stuff smells of sour grapes.

    Having a player sent off is always liable to influence the outcome of the game especially so early in the match. If Cody felt the sending off was harsh he has every right to say so. We will never know if KK would have won with 15. That's a game of ifs buts and maybe's.
    A hiding is always a possibility when down a man so I wouldn't be handing out medals to Tipp on that score.

    Let's see Tipp win back to back All Irelands before acclaiming them as some great side. Tipp won today and let them enjoy it.


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  • #4831
    Road-Hog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,412 ✭✭✭Road-Hog


    ArnoldJRimmer wrote: »
    Well one reason is that you're unnecessarily using an insulting phrase when asking a question about Brian Cody. Like him or not, he's the greatest manager of all time and deserves a little bit more respect than that

    People very touchy this pm....merely trying to be a bit light hearted about it......not a good time to try it I suppose given the rawness double digit defeat that kk teams and fans would not be used to being on the receiving end of......nobody doubts Cody’s achievements but he does come across as somewhat of a poor winner ( post match interview with Marty Morrissey in 2009) and looser (2019) at times.


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