The Dominance of Dublin GAA Mod warning post#1

Gachla · 14-08-2019 05:49PM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Divided it up - needed to increase the participation rates - economies of scale- cost of living - land - facilities
It is like saying America should have the same GDP as Ireland.

Well over 200 times the games development funding. It can't be justified.

Augme · 14-08-2019 05:50PM

It's a shame this thread wasn't started in September, maybe when the kids were back at school we might have had an interesting discussion.

Gachla · 14-08-2019 05:51PM

blanch152 wrote: »

The title of this thread is "The Dominance of Dublin GAA"

How does 4 titles since 2007 equate to dominance?

It adds into the figure of nearly 90 titles since 2005.

gormdubhgorm · 14-08-2019 05:51PM

ArielAtom wrote: »

Keep the head in the sand then.

I wonder does he stand up at the club meetings?
I would be looking forward to Gachla's proposed motion to congress to stop the 'doping dubs'.
S/he seems to think they know it all so it should be fairly straightforward - if s/he cannot answer a question the chart with the 80 titles can come out.

That will clear it all up!

blanch152 · 14-08-2019 05:51PM

Gachla wrote: »

They do show it. Nearly 90 titles in 14 years. It's astonishing. Shows what money can buy.

90 titles in 14 years across mens and ladies football, camogie and hurling, if you are to be believed.

Well, I just looked at one county and one sport - men's football - and I found that since 2007, in just 12 years, Kerry won 35 titles in men's football. That is dominance.

ArielAtom · 14-08-2019 05:52PM

Gachla wrote: »

Yes.

Please explain it to me then, as my dealings with them see to differ from your interpretation. I await your detailed response.

gormdubhgorm · 14-08-2019 05:52PM

Gachla wrote: »

It adds into the figure of nearly 90 titles since 2005.

It was 80 yesterday nearly 90 today
Will it be nearly 100 when you post tomorrow?

Gachla · 14-08-2019 05:53PM

blanch152 wrote: »

90 titles in 14 years across mens and ladies football, camogie and hurling, if you are to be believed.

Well, I just looked at one county and one sport - men's football - and I found that since 2007, in just 12 years, Kerry won 35 titles in men's football. That is dominance.

Is that a huge increase from the years before then? How much money have they taken from all of us?

ArielAtom · 14-08-2019 05:53PM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I wonder does he stand up at the club meetings?
I would be looking forward to Gachla's proposed motion to congress to stop the 'doping dubs'.
S/he seems to think they know it all so it should be fairly straightforward - if s/he cannot answer a question the chart with the 80 titles can come out.
That will clear it all up!

I wonder has the stress of moving home affected his thinking even more😉

Gachla · 14-08-2019 05:54PM

ArielAtom wrote: »

Please explain it to me then, as my dealings with them see to differ from your interpretation. I await your detailed response.

You can read the article linked to give you a good start on it.

StupidLikeAFox · 14-08-2019 05:54PM

ArielAtom wrote: »

Please explain it to me then, as my dealings with them see to differ from your interpretation. I await your detailed response.

You've asked the question about 5 times now and their responsibilities have been described several times. What is your experience of what they do?

Gachla · 14-08-2019 05:54PM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

It was 80 yesterday nearly 90 today
Will it be nearly 100 when you post tomorrow?

I didn't add in the ladies Leinster titles when adding up. Do you dispute the figures?

kilns · 14-08-2019 05:54PM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I wonder does he stand up at the club meetings?
I would be looking forward to Gachla's proposed motion to congress to stop the 'doping dubs'.
S/he seems to think they know it all so it should be fairly straightforward - if s/he cannot answer a question the chart with the 80 titles can come out.
That will clear it all up!

It’s all top secret didn’t you know

blanch152 · 14-08-2019 05:56PM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

It was 80 yesterday nearly 90 today
Will it be nearly 100 when you post tomorrow?

They are running off the Leinster and All-Ireland tiddlywinks competitions tonight, at senior and minor, mens and ladies levels, round-robin in a Dublin casino, with a Dublin croupier, music by Aslan and U2, so we should have four more by tomorrow morning.

Think we already won the U-20s on a walkover because a Dublin guard arrested the Kerry players for jaywalking across O'Connell Street.

Gachla · 14-08-2019 05:56PM

kilns wrote: »

It’s all top secret didn’t you know

Their arguments were destroyed, completely obliterated so this kind of posting is all they have left. Basically raising the white flag.

blanch152 · 14-08-2019 05:57PM

Gachla wrote: »

You can read the article linked to give you a good start on it.

You did read the links I provided to the GAA website, didn't you? There was plenty of information there to educate you.

Gachla · 14-08-2019 05:58PM

blanch152 wrote: »

They are running off the Leinster and All-Ireland tiddlywinks competitions tonight, at senior and minor, mens and ladies levels, round-robin in a Dublin casino, with a Dublin croupier, music by Aslan and U2, so we should have four more by tomorrow morning.

Think we already won the U-20s on a walkover because a Dublin guard arrested the Kerry players for jaywalking across O'Connell Street.

Here's more. They might as well post; "ok, I give up, I can't make any valid arguments so I'll just try to make a joke and hope that hides my embarrassment".

Gachla · 14-08-2019 05:58PM

blanch152 wrote: »

You did read the links I provided to the GAA website, didn't you? There was plenty of information there to educate you.

You've been given one hell of a lesson. Your raging that you can't repeat your lies anymore.

ArielAtom · 14-08-2019 06:04PM

Gachla wrote: »

You can read the article linked to give you a good start on it.

More deflection. You seem to know the role so please educate us all with your wisdom.

kilns · 14-08-2019 06:07PM

Gachla wrote: »

Their arguments were destroyed, completely obliterated so this kind of posting is all they have left. Basically raising the white flag.

You were asked about your proposals and you won’t reveal

jmayo · 14-08-2019 06:11PM

blanch152 wrote: »

It wasn't proven wrong. Just because one player says he is travelling by bus doesn't mean he is not claiming mileage.

Care to back up those allegations about Mayo players sunshine ?

ArielAtom · 14-08-2019 06:15PM

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

You've asked the question about 5 times now and their responsibilities have been described several times. What is your experience of what they do?

I’ve asked the question of a poster who keeps using it as a description of dominance, he is either unable or unwilling to give his description. I will post my opinion when he eventually engages and answers, if he can.

blanch152 · 14-08-2019 06:17PM

Gachla wrote: »

You've been given one hell of a lesson. Your raging that you can't repeat your lies anymore.

Not at all. You will generally find that the one who is crowing about victory on a random internet thread has actually had their ass handed to them, but doesn't realise it.

You can buy mirrors cheaply in IKEA, oops, forgot that's only available in Dublin. Must add it to the list of advantages.

blanch152 · 14-08-2019 06:18PM

jmayo wrote: »

Care to back up those allegations about Mayo players sunshine ?

Just look at Mayo topping the list for player expenses every year even though they are not a dual county and draw your own conclusions.

jmayo · 14-08-2019 06:22PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Just look at Mayo topping the list for player expenses every year even though they are not a dual county and draw your own conclusions.

Put up or shut up !

You have made baseless allegations against a group of inter-county players so back it up or retract.

gormdubhgorm · 14-08-2019 06:29PM

Gachla wrote: »

Their arguments were destroyed, completely obliterated so this kind of posting is all they have left. Basically raising the white flag.

I don't know how you do not understand this plus it is telling that you pick 2005 - why because Dublin were struggling in Leinster big style previous. Then a lot of hard won provincials early on - the competition did not keep thier house in order and faded.

When do you clam this funding started what date?

Plus I have looked through this list

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_GAA_Honours

It seems to me it is the same core of exceptional players that are carrying this success.
Much like Fergie's Fledging's in soccer.

Not only that Dublin only recently started to focus on ladies footbll given the standard and depth in the ladies game - any attention to it at all would see a rise from a low base.
Plus they were perennial runners up dominated by a Cork ladies team - you do not question thier dominance why is that?
It was unprecedented.
I think Rena Buckley has 18 all-irelands between camogie and football for example.

Kilkenny they were struggling before Cody arrived - a good manager and players can lift a ship. He has had unprecedented success.
But you do not apply this to Dublin one iota because it does not suit your argument.
Jim Gavin - Pat Gilroy have not made a difference to Dublin's period of success?

Dublin GAA also started to slowly build hurling I remember they used to get blow in''s from the Cats but the key to Dublin Hurling was the Core of players from the Leinster Minor win in 2005

The arrival of Dalo also helped.
But then how to you explain the dip in Dublin hurling after Dalo left?
That does not suit your argument either.

The all-ireland football club championship also shatters your argument.
Dublin have not dominated it as they should on paper - Dublin clubs are perennial favorites
By your logic Dublin should be going for five a row in the club competition.

Your argument about funding is facile in the extreme, there are many other factors as you well know I think.
But you are too obtuse to admit it, and/or lack real GAA knowledge if you scratch the surface

gormdubhgorm · 14-08-2019 06:45PM

blanch152 wrote: »

You did read the links I provided to the GAA website, didn't you? There was plenty of information there to educate you.

No hope of him/her reading you need to make a chart - prefers pictures not words.

Strumms · 14-08-2019 06:50PM

Hammer Archer wrote: »

It also doesn't help that they've become almost totally self sufficient with sponsorship which in turn means they do not have to put any real effort into fundraising, unlike other counties.

They have their house in order and their success off the pitch mirrors the success on it.... if a company...say Vodafone wants to give them xxxx amount of Euros for advertising so be it.... are they to say no ?

Cork have a deal with Chill Insurance worth well in excess of a million euro, because Clare don’t should they be then entitled to put their hand out looking for their ‘share’ of it ? Or should Cork be made play with 14 players, play with one fûcking hand tied behind their back ? Or should people just focus on the fact of this money and ignore the raw talent that players possess that has been nurtured in this amateur sport for years ? any and all success that has been accrued through hard work, dedication, nurturing of talent and desire....

people are overstating massively the impact of sponsorship deals...that it can somehow magically put superheroes into jerseys and kick goals and points... it can’t. Begrudgery doesn’t to that either so better time might be spent enjoying the sport, giving credit and doing your upmost to support your team instead of worry about the success of other ones.

gormdubhgorm · 14-08-2019 06:58PM

Strumms wrote: »

They have their house in order and their success off the pitch mirrors the success on it.... if a company...say Vodafone wants to give them xxxx amount of Euros for advertising so be it.... are they to say no ?

Cork have a deal with Chill Insurance worth well in excess of a million euro, because Clare don’t should they be then entitled to put their hand out looking for their ‘share’ of it ? Or should Cork be made play with 14 players, play with one fûcking hand tied behind their back ? Or should people just focus on the fact of this money and ignore the raw talent that players possess that has been nurtured in this amateur sport for years ? any and all success that has been accrued through hard work, dedication, nurturing of talent and desire....

people are overstating massively the impact of sponsorship deals...that it can somehow magically put superheroes into jerseys and kick goals and points... it can’t. Begrudgery doesn’t to that either so better time might be spent enjoying the sport, giving credit and doing your upmost to support your team instead of worry about the success of other ones.

Yeah I have used Parnell's in Coolock as an example of poor management of resources.
Strangely Gachla and the like did not comment on it.... on to repeat his/her/it's mantra.

Beechwoodspark · 14-08-2019 07:03PM

Can the dubs supporters please give a straight yes or no on this

Was the money allocated to Dublin a significant factor in their recent success

Yes or no??

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