Has a conspiracy ever been proven?

Hammer89 · 12-08-2019 08:22PM #1

Like.........ever? When was the last a widespread conspiracy theory turned out to be true and blew people's socks off?

I'm not doubting the existence of cover-ups, but I am doubting that the orchestrators would leave a trail of breadcrumbs or easter eggs for nerds to follow in the future in the hope of uncovering some sort of plot.

Maybe that billionaire sex trafficker was murdered, or maybe he offed himself because he was facing 45 years in prison. Maybe he didn't fancy dying in jail and decided to go out on his terms.

Why were there no guards watching? Because humans are stupid who makes massive mistakes all the time. We know better than most just how truly negligent people can be after the smear test scandal.

Nothing to see here lads. It's just a horrible human being who capitalised on human negligence and chose suicide over 45 years confinement.

Capt'n Midnight · 12-08-2019 11:51PM

Big corporates break the law to corner the market and are happy to pay billions of dollars in fines because, it's worth it.

branie2 · 13-08-2019 12:33AM

It could have

igCorcaigh · 13-08-2019 12:36AM

What was the classic false flag people quote, the gulf of tolken I think?

To justify the American war on Vietnam?

Wasn't that true?
I'm not too much a history buff to know.

Del2005 · 13-08-2019 12:36AM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Big corporates break the law to corner the market and are happy to pay billions of dollars in fines because, it's worth it.

Which corporations have paid billions in fines?

sabat · 13-08-2019 12:38AM

MK Ultra, the CIA's secret mind control programme, sounds like a whacky conspiracy but was 100% a real thing.

igCorcaigh · 13-08-2019 12:40AM

sabat wrote: »

MK Ultra, the CIA's secret mind control programme, sounds like a whacky conspiracy but was 100% a real thing.

Yeah, seems to have been.

ILoveYourVibes · 13-08-2019 12:40AM

During prohibition the US govt did poison alcohol.

igCorcaigh · 13-08-2019 12:43AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

During prohibition the US govt did poison alcohol.

Really?

I've never heard of that.

13-08-2019 12:57AM

Governments spying on citizens.

USA stole dead baby body parts from Nagasaki and Hiroshima to do radioactive testing.

The USA has already had its first female president - Edith Wilson.

USA infected people in Guatemala with numerous STDs.

They infected black people in the US with syphilis which lasted for decades. Never treated them even though penicillin had been proven effective against it.

Dalai Lama worked for the CIA.

poisonated · 13-08-2019 12:59AM

The Chilean coup detas

poisonated · 13-08-2019 01:01AM

1973 Chilean coup d’etat? I wasn’t alive at the time so am not sure if it was considered a conspiracy theory that the CIA had a huge involvement in it?

ToddyDoody · 13-08-2019 01:02AM

George Orwell's ones in the main.

igCorcaigh · 13-08-2019 01:04AM

ToddyDoody wrote: »

George Orwell's ones in the main.

Not really, but hints of it.

igCorcaigh · 13-08-2019 01:06AM

poisonated wrote: »

1973 Chilean coup d’etat? I wasn’t alive at the time so am not sure if it was considered a conspiracy theory that the CIA had a huge involvement in it?

I think it's well known that the USA and the West were behind many coups in that region.

Remember when Thatchers son got meddling in Africa?

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 14-08-2019 12:00AM

It’s hard to think of a US war that didn’t involve a false flag.

Here’s one they didn’t do but only because President Kennedy didn’t agree.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

If they had done gone ahead with the false flag most people would now think the people accusing the US government of doing it as crackpots.

Operation Northwoods was a proposed false flag operation against the Cuban government that originated within the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) of the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) or other U.S. government operatives to commit acts of terrorism against American civilians and military targets, blaming them on the Cuban government, and using it to justify a war against Cuba. The possibilities detailed in the document included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.[2] The proposals were rejected by John F. Kennedy.[3][4][5]

FTA69 · 14-08-2019 12:06AM

British state collusion with Loyalist paramilitaries was dubbed a conspiracy and Republican propaganda up until the Good Friday Agreement nearly. At times serving members of the police and military were actively murdering people covertly and intelligence units directly answerable to the government were setting up assassinations; an angle which was never reported on to any real degree north or south.

Now it's common knowledge that it was widespread.

Guy:Incognito · 14-08-2019 12:07AM

Every one of them is "proven" if you listen to the nutballs. Whether you believe their "proof " is another thing. Generally if it involves everything the "mainstream media" tells you is a lie but this lad on YouTube has it all figured out then you knows its 100% true.

the dark phantom · 14-08-2019 12:08AM

Iran-Contra

EmmetSpiceland · 14-08-2019 12:20AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

They infected black people in the US with syphilis which lasted for decades. Never treated them even though penicillin had been proven effective against it.

I thought they took, already, infected men but treated them with “placebos” to study the effects? Either way, it was a shítty thing to do.

Moomoomacshoe · 14-08-2019 12:23AM

The Chris Watts case, I followed it closely and there was a conspiracy that the kids could be seen in the cctv while Chris was loading the body of his poor murdered wife Shannan.
I'm probably not explaining it very well(worth looking up) but conspiracy theory was rife,was all over youtube and eventually he admitted all ie. Conspiracy was true. It was a really eerie heartbreaking case.

Jerichoholic · 14-08-2019 12:24AM

Area 51 absolutely never existed at all. Until they admitted it did.

Remote Viewing/Psi Ops programs were a real thing too.

Reisers · 14-08-2019 12:24AM

Kenyan doping conspiracy theory

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 14-08-2019 12:26AM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Every one of them is "proven" if you listen to the nutballs. Whether you believe their "proof " is another thing. Generally if it involves everything the "mainstream media" tells you is a lie but this lad on YouTube has it all figured out then you knows its 100% true.

One of the things that works is convincing simpler minded people that because some conspiracies are nonsense, all are. Whether this itself is a conspiracy is open to debate.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 14-08-2019 12:27AM

Jerichoholic wrote: »

Area 51 absolutely never existed at all. Until they admitted it did.

Remote Viewing/Psi Ops programs were a real thing too.

The aliens stuff is nonsense though. That’s just a secret base for future technology.

Psi programs were tried but didn’t work.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 14-08-2019 12:39AM

The suez war.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suez_Crisis

Israel attacked Egypt first and France and Britain demanded a cease fire, and that the belligerents move 10 miles from the canal. In fact the whole thing was a joint Israeli/French/British operation from the start. In fact Britain was reluctant to include Israel, fearful of the Arab response so the hoax was formulated.

Oops! · 14-08-2019 12:46AM

That the earth is round.

Reisers · 14-08-2019 12:50AM

Oops! wrote: »

That the earth is round.

The moon is flat

At least the bit I saw Neil Armstrong walking on looked flat enough to me

Guy:Incognito · 14-08-2019 12:59AM

Moomoomacshoe wrote: »

The Chris Watts case, I followed it closely and there was a conspiracy that the kids could be seen in the cctv while Chris was loading the body of his poor murdered wife Shannan.
I'm probably not explaining it very well(worth looking up) but conspiracy theory was rife,was all over youtube and eventually he admitted all ie. Conspiracy was true. It was a really eerie heartbreaking case.

I had a quick skim on wiki. That's not a conspiracy. That's just some guy lying about murdering his family.

Reisers · 14-08-2019 01:01AM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

I had a quick skim on wiki. That's not a conspiracy. That's just some guy lying about murdering his family.

You're nitpicking now

Ipso · 14-08-2019 01:04AM

Reisers wrote: »

You're nitpicking now

Hmm. Who did he conspire with?

Has a conspiracy ever been proven?

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