USA vs Canada vs Australia vs New Zealand vs UK

12-08-2019 04:55AM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Why do people keep saying this?

The last person to die from a spider bite in Australia was in 1980, nearly 40 years ago, before the anti-venom program was introduced in 1981. No one has died since its been introduced.

Sharks? Don't swim in shark infested areas, Australia has plenty of safe beaches. Crocodiles only live in very remote areas way up in northern queensland.

I had no idea regarding the spider bites. Stellar record. Long may it continue.

Noo · 12-08-2019 05:14AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I had no idea regarding the spider bites. Stellar record. Long may it continue.

Your reaction is more likely to kill you....e.g. freaking out while driving because you've spotted a spider in your car. Many a time I have removed my shoe while in the car (stopped at lights, not while driving) to give a good squish.

Hamsterchops · 12-08-2019 06:23AM

Ficheall wrote: »

We are allowed go to Scotland, right?

Scotland, Wales, Norn Ireland + all of England.

I love the Cotswolds.

Thelonious Monk · 12-08-2019 10:27AM

If J1s count I've lived in all of these countries and I'd choose Australia. Amazing weather, food, variety of cultures, beaches, and very similar to ourselves in their outlooks on work and booze etc.
Canadians are lovely and friendly but it's just too bloody cold in most of the country, I remember having 2 weeks of around -35c minimum. The horror.
NZ is lovely but I found the people and nightlife etc boring AF, I think they have a stream of dour Scottish Presbyterian running through their blood that makes them a bit dull.

Mad_maxx · 12-08-2019 10:59AM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

If J1s count I've lived in all of these countries and I'd choose Australia. Amazing weather, food, variety of cultures, beaches, and very similar to ourselves in their outlooks on work and booze etc.
Canadians are lovely and friendly but it's just too bloody cold in most of the country, I remember having 2 weeks of around -35c minimum. The horror.
NZ is lovely but I found the people and nightlife etc boring AF, I think they have a stream of dour Scottish Presbyterian running through their blood that makes them a bit dull.

And incredibly hard headed

ancapailldorcha · 12-08-2019 11:00AM

Moved to the UK. Never regretted it until very recently.

Mad_maxx · 12-08-2019 11:01AM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Definitely not the USA. Too much crime and gangs.

No to Australia, too many things that can kill you.

Canada doesnt seem too bad but they seem to be on a similar warpath as Sweden and Germany to self destruction. Death by PC.

The UK is grim in most parts. There seems to be a handful of small towns in the south that seem reasonable. London isn't British anymore and the increasing levels of gangs makes the place sound quite scary outside of the tourist areas.

New Zealand seems like a southern hemisphere version of Ireland. I'll take them by default.

New Zealand is a "southern hemisphere version" of Scotland, not Ireland, kiwis are very different to us, we are much more like Australians than New Zealanders

citytillidie · 12-08-2019 11:07AM

Montreal, nice crisp cool Winters followed by hot humid summers

Mint Sauce · 12-08-2019 11:08AM

NZ for me. Other than the UK, guessing they have the least dangerous animals/stuff/people out of the lot.

SharpshooterTom · 12-08-2019 01:52PM

People prefer living in the UK over Oz and the US?

Interesting.

odyssey06 · 12-08-2019 01:57PM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

People prefer living in the UK over Oz and the US? Interesting.

Would be easier to keep up family ties and return to Ireland at short notice.

And, if you're a big soccer fan, would be easier to follow the game!

I'd say there's a lot less culture shock... you can probably still buy 80% of the stuff you normally buy, follow 80% of the bands and TV shows you normally enjoy etc and even, bring your own car.

Thelonious Monk · 12-08-2019 02:14PM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

People prefer living in the UK over Oz and the US?

Interesting.

I know its in turmoil now but its a pretty great place. Like ireland but with better services and things that run better. Free healthcare for all. Not as much of a rip off on many things. And you can be home in no time. I could show up at Euston in the morning and buy a rail and sail ticket for 35 quid and be in my parents house by 6pm.

Fan of Netflix · 12-08-2019 02:30PM

- Canada is way too cold and hipsters paradise in Toronto. Seems a very PC weird place.
- New Zealand seems a bit boring.
- America is great for a holiday but don't think I could move long term, so dangerous. I did a J1 there.
- Oz, I absolutely hate spiders, those large insects and reptile things. Unless you could totally avoid them in Sydney or Melbourne? It would be a no for me.

So that just leaves Britain...ugh. I would rather live here and travel over to Britain for football, trips etc. Unless I was a millionaire and could buy a class gaf in London. Would prefer to move elsewhere outside these 5 tbh. Italy or Spain maybe.

Ardillaun · 12-08-2019 04:35PM

After Canada, I would find living in England again too claustrophobic. There are people everywhere. Scotland would be more to my taste.

Oz is too warm for me. Even Tasmania is in trouble these days. There’s also a bit of an edge to Australians. They remind me of Albertans too much.

In the US, I’d probably go for Washington or Oregon - great scenery and warmer than I’m used to up here with fairly reasonable people too.

whisky_galore · 12-08-2019 05:00PM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Why do people keep saying this?

The last person to die from a spider bite in Australia was in 1980, nearly 40 years ago, before the anti-venom program was introduced in 1981. No one has died since its been introduced.

Sharks? Don't swim in shark infested areas, Australia has plenty of safe beaches. Crocodiles only live in very remote areas way up in northern queensland.

It's like saying "oh dear, better not move to Ireland cos I'll get attacked by a bull in a field".

In 8 months in Oz I saw ONE redback, ONE (dead) huntsman and ONE of those pretty big rain forest spiders that was outside, pretty easy to avoid and was probably not a deadly one.
It was sitting still on its web and wasn't going to jump off it and kill me.

Far too much sqeamishness and hype.

Everyone, grow a set.

whisky_galore · 12-08-2019 05:06PM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

People prefer living in the UK over Oz and the US?

Interesting.

They can fly home for Mammys cooking.

Granadino · 12-08-2019 05:27PM

None. Italy or Spain.

Ardillaun · 12-08-2019 06:15PM

Granadino wrote: »

None. Italy or Spain.

I can’t wait to get back to Italy. This dirty old atheist was surprised to be so bowled over by the churches on his only previous visit. Visiting relatives in the British Isles means I probably won’t get there this year. Naples, Pompeii and the Amalfi coast are next on the list. They are often in my thoughts.

cena · 12-08-2019 06:45PM

USA first cause I have a lot of family there. Canada top second. All the ice hockey I can have in these two countries. No interest in the others.

rossie1977 · 12-08-2019 07:15PM

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

- Oz, I absolutely hate spiders, those large insects and reptile things. Unless you could totally avoid them in Sydney or Melbourne? It would be a no for me.

In Sydney and Melbourne proper you will avoid them, those are huge cosmopolitan metropolis'. My friend lives about an hour outside Melbourne in the suburbs and you see more spiders there but non deadly ones and wombats run across his fence nightly.

Ardillaun · 12-08-2019 10:27PM

Complaining about the weather has a long history in Newfoundland. Here is George Calvert, Lord Baltimore, in 1629 asking King Charles if he can go south and start a colony in a warmer part of the world:

I met with greater difficulties and encumbrances here, which in this place are no longer to be resisted but enforce me presently to quit my residence and to shift to some other warmer climate of this New World, where the winters be shorter and less rigorous. For here, your Majesty may please to understand, that I have found by too dear bought experience, which other men for their private interests always concealed from me, that from the middest of October to the middest of May there is a sad face of winter upon all this land, both sea and land so frozen for the greatest part of the time as they are not penetrable, no plant or vegetable thing appearing out of the earth until it be about the beginning of May, nor fish in the sea, besides the air so intolerable cold as it is hardly to be endured. By means whereof, and of much salt meat, my house [the Mansion House] hath been an hospital all this winter. Of 100 persons 50 sick at a time, myself being one and nine or ten of them dyed. Hereupon I have had strong temptations to leave all proceeding in plantations and, being much decayed in my strength, to retire myself to my former quiet. But, my inclination carrying me naturally to these kind of works and not knowing how better to employ the poor remainder of my days than with other good subjectes to further, the best I may, the enlarging your Majesty's empire in this part of the world, I am determined to commit this place to fishermen, that are able to encounter storms and hard weather, and to remove myself with some 40 persons to your Majesty's Dominion of Virginia, where if your Majesty will please to grant me a precinct of land with such privileges as the King, your father, my gracious Master [in James I], was pleased to gaunt me here, I shall endeavour to the utmost of my power to deserve it.
https://www.heritage.nf.ca/articles/exploration/george-calvert-letter-1629.php

Calvert’s son went on to found the colony of Maryland.

Thelonious Monk · 12-08-2019 10:40PM

I spent 2 weeks in NFLD and it was clear skies and around 25c every day so even they get better summers than us. Terrible winters though.

Noo · 12-08-2019 10:47PM

whisky_galore wrote: »

It's like saying "oh dear, better not move to Ireland cos I'll get attacked by a bull in a field".

In 8 months in Oz I saw ONE redback, ONE (dead) huntsman and ONE of those pretty big rain forest spiders that was outside, pretty easy to avoid and was probably not a deadly one.
It was sitting still on its web and wasn't going to jump off it and kill me.

Far too much sqeamishness and hype.

Everyone, grow a set.

I've lived here nearly 8 years and have never seen a red back (you just know ive gone and jinxed it now). I have seen 3 snakes and they were all in their own habitats, just curled up basking in the sun minding their own business.
I spent 2-3 years of my job rummaging through overgrown vegetation in peoples gardens and ants were the worst I came across.

I have family who refuse to ever visit me over these misconceptions.

Ardillaun · 12-08-2019 11:37PM

Noo wrote: »

I've lived here nearly 8 years and have never seen a red back (you just know ive gone and jinxed it now). I have seen 3 snakes and they were all in their own habitats, just curled up basking in the sun minding their own business.
I spent 2-3 years of my job rummaging through overgrown vegetation in peoples gardens and ants were the worst I came across.

I have family who refuse to ever visit me over these misconceptions.

I think I saw more snakes on my holidays in South Africa than that. There were always geckos in the house as well. We passed a tiny rowing boat in the St. Lucia river which contained a family of 8 red Afrikaners sans life jackets or sunscreen lotion. (I didn’t see anybody wearing sunscreen there.) Around them in the water were crocs and very angry-looking hippos.

Cookie_Monster · 13-08-2019 04:31AM

The motorists in Aus are far more dangerous than the wildlife

con___manx1 · 13-08-2019 05:59AM

I lived in canada and australia and visited the us and newzeland. Id pick australia. The weather and the work culture is great. Melbourne is one of my favouite citys in the world.

cournioni · 13-08-2019 07:02AM

New Zealand or Canada for me.

whisky_galore · 13-08-2019 07:50AM

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

The motorists in Aus are far more dangerous than the wildlife

You've clearly never driven in SE Asia. Oz is a doddle.

Thelonious Monk · 13-08-2019 07:54AM

whisky_galore wrote: »

You've clearly never driven in SE Asia. Oz is a doddle.

Try cycling in dublin to see how awful irish motorists are!

whisky_galore · 13-08-2019 07:56AM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Try cycling in dublin to see how awful irish motorists are!

I wouldn't even visit that cesspit let alone cycle there.

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