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Ireland's asylum hotel monthly bill tops €3.54m

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    biko
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    Do-gooders don't give a **** about Irish homeless, there is just no money in it for them.
    You must have political will to house and feed the homeless, but there is none.
    There is however, plenty of political will to house and feed people that have never set foot in this country before.


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    punisher5112
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    We are been scammed so bad it's actually too late to do anything about it.


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    MrFresh
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    It's amazing that not a single improvement of note has been made in the direct provision system in so long.


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    Harika
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    biko wrote: »
    Do-gooders don't give a **** about Irish homeless, there is just no money in it for them.
    You must have political will to house and feed the homeless, but there is none.
    There is however, plenty of political will to house and feed people that have never set foot in this country before.

    Do you give a *** about Irish homeless people and if yes what do you in this regard?


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    Portsalon
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    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

    Nice money spinner for those in the asylum industry. At a time with a large scale homeless crisis for the Irish.:mad:

    Story behind a paywall for anybody who wants to pay for that rag.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/ireland/ireland-s-asylum-hotel-monthly-bill-tops-3-54m-wb8r9f8bj

    The story explains that the State has to put asylum seekers (or claimed asylum seekers) into hotels because:

    (a) they can't find locations for asylum hostels and two recent attempts to impose them on rural communities were stymied by arson attacks;

    and

    (b) former asylum seekers who have been granted the right to reside here won't leave Mosney because they can't find alternative accommodation. So 30% of the beds there are occupied by people who shouldn't be there.

    This is an issue that isn't going to go away and can only get worse, yet the government is scared of debating it in public until it finally dawns on them that we have zero chance of getting that UN Security Council seat that Leo and Simon crave so badly.


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    [Deleted User]
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    We want the best for these people, so we must entrust their care to the private sector and its legendary, eh, efficiencies. Quality, eh, accommodation by, eh, conscientious business people costs money.


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    biko
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    Harika wrote: »
    Do you give a *** about Irish homeless people and if yes what do you in this regard?
    Since you're making this personal.

    I am a regular contributor to COPE Galway and other local organisations.
    What have you contributed to your local community lately?


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    nthclare
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    I'd say Marcus White the lovely doo gooder in Lisdoonvarna is very charitable too, another numpty as far as I'm concerned.
    He must be rolling in it too, all for the good of the people...

    Didn't that knob close his hotel to the LGBT community for their annual get together in Lisdoonvarna, so they ended up in a grotty place out the Doolin road...

    Looks like the Inn At Dromoland will profit from his disaster.....


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    nthclare
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    biko wrote: »
    Harika wrote: »
    Do you give a *** about Irish homeless people and if yes what do you in this regard?
    Since you're making this personal.

    I am a regular contributor to COPE Galway and other local organisations.
    What have you contributed to your local community lately?

    Whoopi doo


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    antix80
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    MrFresh wrote: »
    It's amazing that not a single improvement of note has been made in the direct provision system in so long.

    The only improvements would be to make it less comfortable so the phony asylum seekers make the decision to return to their home countries/country they entered Ireland from/first point of entry.


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    MrFresh
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    antix80 wrote: »
    The only improvements would be to make it less comfortable so the phony asylum seekers make the decision to return to their home countries/country they entered Ireland from/first point of entry.


    Or, you know, just speed up the process.


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    antix80
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    MrFresh wrote: »
    Or, you know, just speed up the process.

    Yup, in which case you'd have to reject undocumented immigrants and any with improveable stories. Our current system rewards dishonesty so unless you make the process longer and uncomfortable to deter phony asylum seekers, you need to up the risk that their claim will be denied


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    Blueshoe
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    There is one in a rural town close to my home house with 18 people. The hotel owner is actually a scumbag who was the type to be posting anti migrant messages on twitter and Facebook.

    I say "was" because now that he is being paid a small fortune he has morphed into Bono or some other similar type fruitcake.

    Money talks


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    Beechwoodspark
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    Utter utter madness


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    #16
    SEPT 23 1989
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    Are you sure those figures are right?

    Seems a bit cheap

    This is Ireland after all


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    magma69
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    The "what about our own homeless" crowd generally don't give a monkey's about our homeless and do **** all to help the homeless. It's about bashing asylum seekers.

    Just like those that who claim to care about equality for lgbt and women when criticising Muslim countries but that mentality disappears when it comes to supporting women's and lgbt rights in the West.

    This forum is just endless thinly veiled threads about the same few topics.


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    Beechwoodspark
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    Think of what we could do with 3.5 million every damn month !!! :(


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    Danzy
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    Neoliberalism in all its glory.


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    Blueshoe
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    magma69 wrote: »
    The "what about our own homeless" crowd generally don't give a monkey's about our homeless and do **** all to help the homeless. It's about bashing asylum seekers.

    Just like those that who claim to care about equality for lgbt and women when criticising Muslim countries but that mentality disappears when it comes to supporting women's and lgbt rights in the West.

    This forum is just endless thinly veiled threads about the same few topics.

    But of course. People don't understand why bus loads of refugees are turning up in their villages unannounced. And they don't have anywhere to turn to ask questions without being labelled.
    Heading up to get the paper on a Sunday morning to see 40 Africans walking around their little isolated village.
    A real wtf moment wouldn't you say?

    And at a cost of 3 million a month in part paid for by the people in the little village.
    But they can't ask why. It's a very strange situation.


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    is_that_so
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    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Think of what we could do with 3.5 million every damn month !!! :(
    Waste it on the HSE?


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    Atlantic Dawn
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    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Think of what we could do with 3.5 million every damn month !!! :(


    It could pay the cost of RTE Orchestras for 3 months :D


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    Gatling
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    It's costs between 250- 500 million per annum to house asylum seekers here ,
    And that's before medical and educational supports and then there's the free legal aid bill too
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    ashes2014
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    Thats a huge amount of money.

    Reading that you kind of feel like you are being stung again and again.


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    #25
    is_that_so
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    Gatling wrote: »
    It's costs between 250- 500 million per annum to house asylum seekers here ,
    And that's before medical and educational supports and then there's the free legal aid bill too
    A link to a credible source would be nice.


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    Stephen15
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    Local must be consulted about these. The reason the government don't consult is because they know people will object and rightfully so. People have to know that they are going to be safe in their area. I bet they are all Syrians who happen to come from parts of Syria like Karachi, Kabul, Lagos and Johannesburg.


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    Dude89
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    antix80 wrote: »
    Yup, in which case you'd have to reject undocumented immigrants and any with improveable stories. Our current system rewards dishonesty so unless you make the process longer and uncomfortable to deter phony asylum seekers, you need to up the risk that their claim will be denied

    The majority get to stay regardless of their story a miniscule amount get deported after numerous appeals and exhausting every legal avenue "Leave To Remain Visa" who's paying for it all?


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    #28
    Beechwoodspark
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    Sounds like joe and Josephine soap are footing the bill for all this??


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    #29
    punisher5112
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    Another huge issue is they go out and have children with Irish so as to get a foot in....

    Many are fake asylum seekers and should be returned straight away and the airline or shipping company foot the bill ...

    You would find the doors would shut quite quickly.


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    Gatling
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    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Another huge issue is they go out and have children with Irish so as to get a foot in....

    Many are fake asylum seekers and should be returned straight away and the airline or shipping company foot the bill ...

    You would find the doors would shut quite quickly.


    Unfortunately we would have people here demanding we let them in and keep footing the bills for economic migrants
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    #31
    ChikiChiki
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    Someone with political connections in the right places is making a lot of money off them hotels. You can be sure of it!


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