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When did being right wing become a cool lifestyle choice for young adults?

  • 07-08-2019 06:11PM
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 600 ✭✭✭


    When did being right wing become a cool lifestyle choice for young adults?

    Seems like more and more kiddies are flocking to reactionary, selfish, right wing ideologies.

    Are charismatic but low IQ YouTube celebrities to blame?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,642 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I blame their socially liberal upbringing. Isnt it always cool to be contrarian to your parents generation?

    It was inevitable once corporal punishment was binned.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Around the time Dundrum Shopping Center opened.

    Seriously, though - economically, once the Celtic tiger roared, that was it. People had money and they wanted to hang onto it.
    Socially, it's not.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,584 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    I think when liberals started bullying them in high school.
    Around the time Dundrum Shopping Center opened.

    Don't knock it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭soups05


    probably around the time the left wing went totally nuts and drove them away lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    The number of kids with any political leanings must be as rare as hens teeth.

    Most of them that do are members of young FF or FG.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭Pyr0


    You know what really aggravazes me? Its them immigants, they want all the benefits of living in Ireland, but they aint even bother to learn themselves the language.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Lil Sally Anne Jnr.


    I think when liberals started bullying them in high school.

    You're suggesting gangs of thuggish left wing children were bullying precious and fragile right wing libertarian primary school students on mass in the early 2000s?

    It's a theory I guess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭cagefactor


    When did liberal socialism and being "woke" become so cool with young adults ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭pablohoney87


    When "Baby it's cold outside" got Me Too'd I think.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Lil Sally Anne Jnr.


    cagefactor wrote: »
    When did liberal socialism and being "woke" become so cool with young adults ?

    When did liberal socialism.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Blaizes


    When "Baby it's cold outside" got Me Too'd I think.

    Forgot about that one. Wonder what will be for the chop this Christmas ... Can’t wait!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭sabat


    I think when liberals started bullying them in high school.



    Don't knock it.

    You need to amend the Hasbara style guide in your office in Tel Aviv-Irish people say "secondary school."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Around the time Dundrum Shopping Center opened.

    .

    I'll never forget the time the week the Dundrum Town Centre opened.
    A family on the luas from town at the Dundrum stop saw the old 'Dundrum Shopping Centre' just over the bridge (where Lidl is now) and looked at the row of hum-drum shops, and with that said 'Is that it???' and got off to wait for the next luas back into town!! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Blaizes


    Maybe the advent of mobile phones, taking selfies etc.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Lil Sally Anne Jnr.


    Blaizes wrote: »
    Maybe the advent of mobile phones, taking selfies etc.

    Actually a good theory.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Blaizes


    Actually a good theory.

    Thanks just sparked by reading your question actually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,584 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    You're suggesting gangs of thuggish left wing children were bullying precious and fragile right wing libertarian primary school students on mass in the early 2000s?

    It's a theory I guess.
    Its the way they seem to portray it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭OneArt


    All these bloody, new-fangled technologies are turning them into snowflakes.

    Fire, the wheel, steam, the internal combustion engine, Minitel, electricity (fire 2.0), THE PRINTING PRESS (everyone just reads, no one talks to each other anymore), the Internet (Minitel 2.0)...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Lil Sally Anne Jnr.


    If you look at the popular youth movements of the sixties, say the student rebellions in France in 1968, all of these people were reading Marx, Engels, and were being taught by individuals like Lyotard, Baudrillard etc.

    There was a rich intersection between art (Debord) political theory and praxis. Whether you agree with them or not, the level of discussion was much higher. These days you have a Lorraine Southern video sympathetic to white South Africans and an angry poorly formed Paul Joseph Watson rant and the next thing you know you got another school shooting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Snotty


    When they reached an age where they were able to see the liberal horrors that are being pushed as the norm now, thankfully its only a mater before it swings back to the right, hopefully not too far to the right, believe it or not its possible to have opinions, some left and some right tenancies without being a transgender-nazi.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,856 ✭✭✭BalcombeSt4


    Just like the communist thread there is no sharp rise in far-right politics in Ireland.

    A very conservative country yes, but no real threat from Fascist or Nationalists, unlike a lot of European countries that have seen rises in Fascist & neo-Nazi parties & racist attacks.

    A bit like how the States are stuck on Cold War politics, Ireland is still very much stuck on Civil War politics. There's been no real normal left-right politics in the South or North of this country. It's usually been stuck on national & sectarian issues rather than economic or social issues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭pablohoney87


    Just like the communist thread there is no sharp rise in far-right politics in Ireland.

    A very conservative country yes, but no real threat from Fascist or Nationalists, unlike a lot of European countries that have seen rises in Fascist & neo-Nazi parties & racist attacks.

    I've seen a large increase in people sharing Ben Gilroy, Gemma O'D and Yellow vest Ireland material in fairness.

    From what I've seen is theres an increase in far right material out there.

    Leo Sherlock also seems to be doing his part to keep the hate out there too


  • Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If you look at the popular youth movements of the sixties, say the student rebellions in France in 1968, all of these people were reading Marx, Engels, and were being taught by individuals like Lyotard, Baudrillard etc.

    There was a rich intersection between art (Debord) political theory and praxis. Whether you agree with them or not, the level of discussion was much higher. These days you have a Lorraine Southern video sympathetic to white South Africans and an angry poorly formed Paul Joseph Watson rant and the next thing you know you got another school shooting

    Lorna southern has retired into the sunset.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,856 ✭✭✭BalcombeSt4


    Snotty wrote: »
    When they reached an age where they were able to see the liberal horrors that are being pushed as the norm now, thankfully its only a mater before it swings back to the right, hopefully not too far to the right, believe it or not its possible to have opinions, some left and some right tenancies without being a transgender-nazi.

    What were these "liberal horrors" in Ireland?

    The censorship by the state? The sexual abuse scandals in the Church? The forced laundry labour homes for "fallen" women scandals? The Tuam babies scandal? The fact the governing party in this country was formed out of a merger with a Fascist organization?

    Where are these "liberal horrors"? Plenty of horrors in Ireland, nothing to do with them being liberal tho. Unless Gay marriage horrifies you, which I'm guessing it does?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    sabat wrote: »
    You need to amend the Hasbara style guide in your office in Tel Aviv-Irish people say "secondary school."

    High School in Irish, innit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    What were these "liberal horrors" in Ireland?

    The censorship by the state? The sexual abuse scandals in the Church? The forced laundry labour homes for "fallen" women scandals? The Tuam babies scandal? The fact the governing party in this country was formed out of a merger with a Fascist organization?

    Where are these "liberal horrors"? Plenty of horrors in Ireland, nothing to do with them being liberal tho. Unless Gay marriage horrifies you, which I'm guessing it does?

    You went way back there.

    I think there’s a reaction to the “check your privilege” left, which is a pity as economic (centre) leftism would be a good idea now.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Lil Sally Anne Jnr.


    Lorna southern has retired into the sunset.

    I think she is just about smart enough to realise that the tide will turn and that history won't look too favourably on low level internet celebrity pseudo-intellectual hate-mongers. Something that can't be said for many of her compatriots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭pablohoney87


    I think she is just about smart enough to realise that the tide will turn and that history won't look too favourably on low level internet celebrity pseudo-intellectual hate-mongers.

    I cant find the original video but thunderf00t released one with footage of her essentially admitting she was lying about the migrant crisis and she was tired of being a terrible person for fame and money


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,991 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    When "Baby it's cold outside" got Me Too'd I think.

    I have a version of this with a woman singing the, original’s, man’s part.

    Is that “acceptable” to play at Christmas parties?

    “It matters not what someone is born, but what they grow to be” - A. Dumbledore

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Just like the communist thread there is no sharp rise in far-right politics in Ireland.

    A very conservative country yes, but no real threat from Fascist or Nationalists, unlike a lot of European countries that have seen rises in Fascist & neo-Nazi parties & racist attacks.

    A bit like how the States are stuck on Cold War politics, Ireland is still very much stuck on Civil War politics. There's been no real normal left-right politics in the South or North of this country. It's usually been stuck on national & sectarian issues rather than economic or social issues.

    We're lucky in Ireland that the Right Wing "demagogues" are either crackpots (Gemma O'Doherty, Michael Quinn) or un-electable hysterics with a charisma bypass like Barrett.


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