What posts.

Dupont · 04-08-2019 08:44AM #1

Looking to fence off the boundary of 5 acres and was wondering what type of posts are best to use. Tanilised ones seem to last as long as wet paper so not much faith in them. What about the octoposts or the dpm ones. Will be putting sheep wire on it with 2 row hi tensile on top

Hard Knocks · 04-08-2019 09:06AM

Dupont wrote: »

Looking to fence off the boundary of 5 acres and was wondering what type of posts are best to use. Tanilised ones seem to last as long as wet paper so not much faith in them. What about the octoposts or the dpm ones. Will be putting sheep wire on it with 2 row hi tensile on top

Haven’t used the octo posts yet but others are happy with them, we’re using cresot here
There’s an indented which has a guarantee, after using a few I’m not confident

buffalobilly · 04-08-2019 12:10PM

put in some imported posts 4 years
ago seen one broken this morning
must check tomorrow if they are rotton
4 years would not be long enough for
a post that was costing €3.50 each

Nekarsulm · 04-08-2019 09:38PM

Fencing a roadside boundary at the moment.
6 foot posts, 4 inches diameter, 30 yr guarantee ( they say) 7.10 euro.
Octo posts much the same price.
Them light green "tanalised" are not worth bringing home, even if they were free.
Hope the ones I have bought are longlasting...

04-08-2019 09:46PM

Dupont wrote: »

Looking to fence off the boundary of 5 acres and was wondering what type of posts are best to use. Tanilised ones seem to last as long as wet paper so not much faith in them. What about the octoposts or the dpm ones. Will be putting sheep wire on it with 2 row hi tensile on top

Have you decided against clipex? Since your talking sheep wire would seem a good choice. Not particularly attractive looking but be grand if ascetics not a concern. Personally would put in traditional wooden strainer or else concrete end posts.

patsy_mccabe · 04-08-2019 10:33PM

There should be standards for fencing posts. When you're buying posts, you should know exactly what kind of timber it is and what treatment it got.

Dinzee Conlee · 04-08-2019 10:33PM

Dupont wrote: »

Looking to fence off the boundary of 5 acres and was wondering what type of posts are best to use. Tanilised ones seem to last as long as wet paper so not much faith in them. What about the octoposts or the dpm ones. Will be putting sheep wire on it with 2 row hi tensile on top

Could you get your hands on old telephone / ESB poles?

A long one would give 3-4 heavy posts.

We got heavy poles years ago, and some of the heavier ones got cut into quarters, and they are still good 10 years later...

Put in those green ones a few years ago, and they all going now... sickening...

wrangler · 05-08-2019 11:30AM

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

Could you get your hands on old telephone / ESB poles?

A long one would give 3-4 heavy posts.

We got heavy poles years ago, and some of the heavier ones got cut into quarters, and they are still good 10 years later...

Put in those green ones a few years ago, and they all going now... sickening...

Anyone use Balcas, I bought them two years ago at 3.80 to replace balcas stakes that were there 20 years.....that's some service. I can't get them local now, I get creosote ones off agriknives, they seem very good, haven't paid yet for this batch think the last ones cost €6.50 - 7.00. but they're flying out of his yard, I waited 3mths for the last batch and this batch I just happen to be passing his yard and he unloading, even though I didn't need them I got the trailer and got 100

PoorFarmer · 05-08-2019 05:28PM

I'm using 3" square larch posts at the moment. Last ones we used have survived 20 odd years. Hopefully these will do something similar. â‚¬500/pallet delivered for 5'. 120 I think in the pallet.

Reggie. · 05-08-2019 05:59PM

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Fencing a roadside boundary at the moment.
6 foot posts, 4 inches diameter, 30 yr guarantee ( they say) 7.10 euro.
Octo posts much the same price.
Them light green "tanalised" are not worth bringing home, even if they were free.
Hope the ones I have bought are longlasting...

Are them posts from tyrellspass

Nekarsulm · 05-08-2019 08:37PM

Reggie. wrote: »

Are them posts from tyrellspass

I think they came from Tyrrellspass, to Co. Fermanagh, and now back to Cavan.
100 metre HT Tornado wire 120 euro including vat.
Last year it was 90 euro plus vat, thought the slide in Sterling would have kept it down in price.

wrangler · 05-08-2019 08:40PM

Nekarsulm wrote: »

I think they came from Tyrrellspass, to Co. Fermanagh, and now back to Cavan.

that's them

Nekarsulm · 05-08-2019 08:54PM

wrangler wrote: »

that's them

Still on the pull ....

grange mac · 05-08-2019 09:03PM

Erm... What's goin on here.....

hopeso · 05-08-2019 09:47PM

grange mac wrote: »

Erm... What's goin on here.....

I don't know....but it looks like a piss take on Agri knives, which isn't surprising as the owner of Agri knives is a major bull ****ter.....

Where was it posted?

hopeso · 05-08-2019 09:49PM

buffalobilly wrote: »

put in some imported posts 4 years
ago seen one broken this morning
must check tomorrow if they are rotton
4 years would not be long enough for
a post that was costing €3.50 each

That's about the life of them now unfortunately.

paddysdream · 05-08-2019 10:27PM

wrangler wrote: »

Anyone use Balcas, I bought them two years ago at 3.80 to replace balcas stakes that were there 20 years.....that's some service. I can't get them local now, I get creosote ones off agriknives, they seem very good, haven't paid yet for this batch think the last ones cost €6.50 - 7.00. but they're flying out of his yard, I waited 3mths for the last batch and this batch I just happen to be passing his yard and he unloading, even though I didn't need them I got the trailer and got 100

Bought balcas stakes for a few years.Replaced 27 out of 40 around my brothers house a week ago including a strainer.They were put up about 8/9 years ago and totally gone at this stage.
Found them no better than anything else in the last few years.

Used those octo posts on a few jobs this year.One lot were so saturated in "cresote" that we went through 2 pairs of gloves just driving them.They were also very very brittle as had to drive one in with a sledge and it split a foot down after 2/3 blows.Pure rubbish.Other batches of octo seem a bit better but not worth the price imo.
Very difficult to get good stakes at the moment.Drove "cresoted" ones a farmer got in Farm relief for a TAMS job and they were ok but very rough and uneven.

As regards treatment the cresote or whatever it is used is noty the same as used on ESB/Telecom poles.It stings on your bare arm but nothing like after handling an ESB pole cut up as a strainer.Hard to beat them for strainers/gate posts etc.

See a kingpost here at home at the end of a post and rail entrance gone totally and it was put up 6 years ago and treated/painted every year since.Only thing holding it in place are the rails and the fact that the gate on that side is very rarely opened.

Saw a job done recently with the clipex system .Looks ok(ish) and was told that erecting and wiring it is a doddle and works out about similar to timber stake job;perhaps a euro or less a metre dearer if even that.You have to use its own dedicated sheepwire as 8/80/15 will not fit the post correctly.Need a adopter plate on the post cap(simple job) to drive them but I assume a consaw to chop anything that meets rock.

wrangler · 05-08-2019 10:53PM

paddysdream wrote: »

Bought balcas stakes for a few years.Replaced 27 out of 40 around my brothers house a week ago including a strainer.They were put up about 8/9 years ago and totally gone at this stage.
Found them no better than anything else in the last few years.

Used those octo posts on a few jobs this year.One lot were so saturated in "cresote" that we went through 2 pairs of gloves just driving them.They were also very very brittle as had to drive one in with a sledge and it split a foot down after 2/3 blows.Pure rubbish.Other batches of octo seem a bit better but not worth the price imo.
Very difficult to get good stakes at the moment.Drove "cresoted" ones a farmer got in Farm relief for a TAMS job and they were ok but very rough and uneven.

As regards treatment the cresote or whatever it is used is noty the same as used on ESB/Telecom poles.It stings on your bare arm but nothing like after handling an ESB pole cut up as a strainer.Hard to beat them for strainers/gate posts etc.

See a kingpost here at home at the end of a post and rail entrance gone totally and it was put up 6 years ago and treated/painted every year since.Only thing holding it in place are the rails and the fact that the gate on that side is very rarely opened.

Saw a job done recently with the clipex system .Looks ok(ish) and was told that erecting and wiring it is a doddle and works out about similar to timber stake job;perhaps a euro or less a metre dearer if even that.You have to use its own dedicated sheepwire as 8/80/15 will not fit the post correctly.Need a adopter plate on the post cap(simple job) to drive them but I assume a consaw to chop anything that meets rock.

I have PDM stakes put up 8 or 9 years ago not looking great but fencers tell me they're using a better preservative now, they got it hard to get a proper alternative to creosote. It's like every thing, something proven, tried and tested the desk drivers have to ban it. Nannyism at its best, they cant trust us to be careful.
As I said my contractor specified the balcas in 2001 and I replaced 50 of 200 this year

Reggie. · 05-08-2019 10:54PM

wrangler wrote: »

that's them

Pity about the seller

paddysdream · 05-08-2019 11:03PM

wrangler wrote: »

I have PDM stakes put up 8 or 9 years ago not looking great but fencers tell me they're using a better preservative now, they got it hard to get a proper alternative to creosote. It's like every thing, something proven, tried and tested the desk drivers have to ban it. Nannyism at its best, they cant trust us to be careful.
As I said my contractor specified the balcas in 2001 and I replaced 50 of 200 this year

Balcas used to be a good stake perhaps 10/15 years ago but now no better that anything else.
Bought "cresoted" stakes here for a job about 3 years ago.Nice profile stakes as it was along a farm entrence.Think they were balcas;NI stakes anyway.Not too cheap.From a major agri company so no fly by night chancers
Took about 3 months for them to turn totally white.Must have been spray painted.

White Clover · 05-08-2019 11:11PM

I started using creosote posts in 2010. Only PDM stocked local. No complaints so far. I'd be hoping for another 15 years anyway.

wrangler · 05-08-2019 11:30PM

Reggie. wrote: »

Pity about the seller

That's not fair, Don't think he'd do you any harm,
Someone once said to me that ''you have to remember they're all mad except us'' Its so true,but you and I are so flawless though, we can criticise.

Nekarsulm · 05-08-2019 11:41PM

Bought two bundles of PDM posts a few years ago.
Drove one bundle, left the other in the shed over the winter.
Both sets dried out and cracks opened, showing the preservative only went in a few mm.
White wood to be seen in deeper.
Never bought them again.

wrangler · 05-08-2019 11:46PM

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Bought two bundles of PDM posts a few years ago.
Drove one bundle, left the other in the shed over the winter.
Both sets dried out and cracks opened, showing the preservative only went in a few mm.
White wood to be seen in deeper.
Never bought them again.

Yea my PDMs were 2012, White and cracking That's why Im dealing with Agriknives , don't know anything about them so not recommending, but at nearly 70 they won't have to last me long

Reggie. · 05-08-2019 11:53PM

wrangler wrote: »

That's not fair, Don't think he'd do you any harm,
Someone once said to me that ''you have to remember they're all mad except us'' Its so true,but you and I are so flawless though, we can criticise.

It is fair as hes one of the most hatest men in the county

Nekarsulm · 05-08-2019 11:55PM

wrangler wrote: »

Yea my PDMs were 2012, White and cracking That's why Im dealing with Agriknives , don't know anything about them so not recommending, but at nearly 70 they won't have to last me long

Yep, I'm thinking the same way.
Put it up as well as I possibly can, and the next huer can replace it....

wrangler · 05-08-2019 11:57PM

Reggie. wrote: »

It is fair as hes one of the most hatest men in the county

Does that mean he would do you harm.
Comes from a very sound family

Reggie. · 05-08-2019 11:58PM

wrangler wrote: »

Does that mean he would do you harm

Yep and he has to others. Haven't come across one local contractor that has anything good to say about him

wrangler · 06-08-2019 12:00AM

Reggie. wrote: »

Yep and he has to others. Haven't come across one local contractor that has anything good to say about him

Fair enough so, I'll take him as I meet him

hopeso · 06-08-2019 12:23AM

Reggie. wrote: »

It is fair as hes one of the most hatest men in the county

The county? He’s hated internationally thanks to his behavior on forums...
If I never drive a stake again, I certainly won’t be buying his.....

Reggie. · 06-08-2019 12:48AM

hopeso wrote: »

The county? He’s hated internationally thanks to his behavior on forums...
If I never drive a stake again, I certainly won’t be buying his.....

I was being conservative

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