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The New Mutants

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,881 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    We have the MCU thread we have the DCU thread maybe Fox deserve a FCU thread for the X-men Universe.

    They already have 7 films out there with 3 more in production along with this now.

    Edit; FF are also in this Universe so that is 3 more films.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,553 ✭✭✭✭Skerries




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I said it elsewhere, but whatever about the wobbly continuity, Fox's use of the mutants franchise has tended to be creative and varied, lately producing positive results that included everything from Logan to Legion, the latter in particular being a real high watermark for any superhero production.

    This feels like another tonal deviation once more, and when you think about it there have been few superhero horror flicks of note (though hopefully the actual film won't contain as many loud noise / jump scare combos), so it could be one to watch out for.

    Honestly, I think Marvel Studios could learn something from Fox's attempts to keep a marvel property fresh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,881 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    This is being bumped back to 2019.

    It was due to be released on April 13th this year and will now be released in February next year.


    A near year long bump isn't a good sign.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,394 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Would have thought production is all but finished at this stage, real shame if the're going to ditch the horror vibe for a more standard superhero flick or something along those lines.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Wow, that's some delay; the initial trailer looked good & I got the impression garnered a lot of goodwill & reaction. Is there any talk of a reshoots perhaps?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,881 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Gambit was due to be releases in February 2019 but has lost another director so maybe it's is being bumped to cover that slot.


    Still bumping a major franchise film due for release in 12 weeks by close to a year doesn't seem right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,213 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Gambit was due to be releases in February 2019 but has lost another director so maybe it's is being bumped to cover that slot.


    Still bumping a major franchise film due for release in 12 weeks by close to a year doesn't seem right.

    Read something about not wanting it to conflict with Deadpool and other superhero movies in overseas markets, but it still wouldn't account for such a large delay in it. Later in the summer, sure.... but almost a year?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Bumping this thread as this eternally delayed film looks to be further in limbo: having already been delayed due to Deadpool 2, Dark Phoenix and the Fox/Disney takeover, there were meant to be reshoots prior to an August release. However in an interview, star Maisie Williams admitted that she had no idea what the status of the film was, and hadn't been contacted about any reshoots. Supposedly her co-stars have shared similar summaries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,881 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I read that it might just be dumped on Hulu at some stage as it’s highly unlikely that it will get a cinema release now.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Jaysus, that's fairly ignominious; I guess if Williams is to be believed, the reshoots have been canned & they're just going to go with what they made already. Which is fine as I liked what I saw in the trailer I guess, jump scares notwithstanding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,134 ✭✭✭correction


    I thought this could be another Logan and Deadpool based on the trailer. A film the executives normally wouldn't allow but because of the success of the aforementioned films gave it the go ahead. Hopefully the presumably canceled reshoots were an attempt to change the tone of the film rather than it being a complete unreleasable disaster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,881 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Looks like it might get a cinema release after all.

    ‘The New Mutants’ Promoted At CinemaCon, Indicating Theatrical Release
    After rumors swirled earlier this year that Josh Boone’s feature adaptation of X-Men spinoff The New Mutants was headed to Hulu, Disney indicated in its CinemaCon presentation that the delayed Fox/Marvel movie was indeed part of its 2019 release schedule. The pic has a release date of Aug. 2.

    Also a Dolby Vision release slate shown at CinemaCon indicated that New Mutants was imminent.

    Fox dropped a trailer for the film at CinemaCon 2017. The pic was slated for an April 13 2018 release, got moved to Feb. 22 of this year, and then pushed again to late summer as the pic underwent many reshoots.

    When Deadline asked around about The New Mutants Hulu rumors earlier this year, we were told by insiders that the decision would be made post Fox acquisition.

    In regards to the rumors of New Mutants heading to Hulu, Lauren Shuler Donner told Deadline at TCA in February that she was “hopeful” that the teen-horror pic would see its Aug. 2 release date. “They worked hard on it,” said Shuler Donner about the film’s production team, “I want to see it released (theatrically), I’d hate to see it thrown at Hulu.”

    https://deadline.com/2019/04/the-new-mutants-cinemacon-disney-theatrical-release-hulu-1202588098/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,881 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Looks like it has been pushed back again till April 2020.


    It will either turn up on Hulu/Disney + or never see the light of day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Shur that only puts it up against:
    • The next James Bond film
    • The Sequel to A Quiet Place'
    • Godzilla vs. Kong
    • Disney's Mulan
    • An Unnamed DC Comics Film

    How could it go wrong?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,917 ✭✭✭nix


    haha jesus, what are they doing with this thing?! the movie will probably be 30mins long by the time they are finished with it :D:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Would be fascinating to see the cast do the media circuit ahead of this release.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Must be very frustrating for the cast & production; all that hard work potentially going down the drain. And it really did feel like something different from the other raft of Fox X-Men films. I was worried it'd be 90% jump scares like most Mainstream horror cinema, but that they were even trying to make a horror flavoured Marvel film in the first place was commendable.

    If nothing else, I hope those involved in the production got paid at least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,494 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I'm guessing the failure of Dark Phoenix will not help this get a release


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    So apparently this may not be as dead as feared: the rumour mill is saying that New Mutants is currently being test screened.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,134 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    New Mutants gets a new trailer in January according to Boone

    Bill Sienkiewicz has seen it and said it is still Horror based but more in line with MCU re. style than Fox style.

    I'd be very happy if it keeps horror angle.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Wonder what is meant by "MCU style", cos it's nothing I'd immediately imagine as being compatible with horror.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,134 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Wonder what is meant by "MCU style", cos it's nothing I'd immediately imagine as being compatible with horror.

    Dr. Strange 2 is billed as MCU first horror so they are branching into horror this phase.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Dr. Strange 2 is billed as MCU first horror so they are branching into horror this phase.

    I'll believe it when I see it TBH, Marvel talk a good game, but can't see them doing anything that'll break that gold PG13 rating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Marvel wanting to step in to fill what WB has tried to fill (a horror-gap) under the guidance of James Wan?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Not aware of the details, but my first worry would be that reshoots turn this into a bit of a mess. But I suppose if it's still getting a cinematic release there's some faith the final piece is worth disseminating across cinemas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    pixelburp wrote: »
    I'll believe it when I see it TBH, Marvel talk a good game, but can't see them doing anything that'll break that gold PG13 rating.

    Joker, Deadpool, Logan. "There's gold in them there R rated mountains".

    Surely the Marvel head honchos are smart enough to see another market for their product that can pull in the cash. No reason they can't do both. It'd be a bold move for them but could be a big money maker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    I think their plans are to bring deadpool back lower than R so I'd assume the same for when they introduce X-Men


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 333 ✭✭Martin Tyler AgueroooOO


    A bit surprised Disney don't use this as a way to promote Disney plus using this as the first X-Men film under the Disney brand.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    A bit surprised Disney don't use this as a way to promote Disney plus using this as the first X-Men film under the Disney brand.

    Tis impressive in one way. The determination to release it to cinemas rather than dumping it on a streaming service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,134 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Hmmm; hard to read too much into something that has 2 trailers and a rake of reshoots in between, but this new one feels a lot more "action" based than what the first promotion implied. The last moments look suspiciously ... "last act superhero movie", glowing suits, swirling beams into the sky, 'n all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,134 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Hmmm; hard to read too much into something that has 2 trailers and a rake of reshoots in between, but this new one feels a lot more "action" based than what the first promotion implied. The last moments look suspiciously ... "last act superhero movie", glowing suits, swirling beams into the sky, 'n all.
    Suits?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Suits?

    Blondie's arm seems to transform into something that looks like armour;


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,134 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Blondie's arm seems to transform into something that looks like armour;

    Thats just her.
    magik.jpg

    It manifests when she uses her sorcery. She can manifest a full suit but often its just her sword arm.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Thats just her.

    It manifests when she uses her sorcery. She can manifest a full suit but often its just her sword arm.

    Fair enough; not au fait with the New Mutants, so wasn't sure. Still remaining cautious about this ever since the Fox takeover and the news of reshoots - or indeed the possibility of a MCU retrofit. This trailer feels a lot less horror oriented than the last & given the above information I'm remaining sceptical about what sort of final product we're going to get.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,922 ✭✭✭McLoughlin


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Hmmm; hard to read too much into something that has 2 trailers and a rake of reshoots in between, but this new one feels a lot more "action" based than what the first promotion implied. The last moments look suspiciously ... "last act superhero movie", glowing suits, swirling beams into the sky, 'n all.

    Apparently this is reshoot free they didn't go back and do any its the original version that was planned


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,134 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Fair enough; not au fait with the New Mutants, so wasn't sure. Still remaining cautious about this ever since the Fox takeover and the news of reshoots - or indeed the possibility of a MCU retrofit. This trailer feels a lot less horror oriented than the last & given the above information I'm remaining sceptical about what sort of final product we're going to get.

    Boone has said this is mostly his original cut minus the fox reshoots. PG13 though.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Again, fair enough. Won't stop me feeling cautious all the same, mostly because that trailer underwhelmed far more than the first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Those guys in the masks.. with the tattoos... Mr Sinister related?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    I see Stefan Kapičić retweeted the trailer.
    https://twitter.com/stefankapicic

    It would be cool to see Colossus given he's Illyanas brother. Maybe in a post-credits scene or a flashback.

    I wonder who Antonio Banderas is gonna be playing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,134 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Slydice wrote: »
    Those guys in the masks.. with the tattoos... Mr Sinister related?

    I doubt it. Hamm was meant to be Sinister in a post credit scene but dunno if there'll be a post credit scene now.

    My guess re antagonists (I'll tag it incase)
    Its a combo of Mirage (by accident) and Demon Bear (thanks to Mirage) that are antagonists.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,268 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Just caught the trailer for this over the weekend and it looks pretty good. Was wondering why Maisie Williams looked so young in it though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,100 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin


    Sleepy wrote: »
    Just caught the trailer for this over the weekend and it looks pretty good. Was wondering why Maisie Williams looked so young in it though!
    It was filmed from July to September 2017, the release was delayed numerous times


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Bane voice: Ah you think terror is your ally? You merely adopted the horror. We were born in it, molded by it. We didn't see the light until Illyana teleported us through Limbo, by then it was nothing to us but a conduit!

    :)

    https://twitter.com/sinKEVitch/status/1213647285482999808


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,553 ✭✭✭✭Skerries


    Sleepy wrote: »
    Just caught the trailer for this over the weekend and it looks pretty good. Was wondering why Maisie Williams looked so young in it though!

    if you mean the character then Wolfbane was 13 in the original comics


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,268 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    No, I meant I saw the trailer and thought Maisie Williams looked younger than she is (22). Only realised when I found this thread that it would have been filmed when she was 18/19.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,881 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson




  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭El Duda


    This poor film.

    It gets delayed again and again and again. Then, when it's finally time to release it... BOOM! Pandemic.

    The fate of this one is doomed...

    tenor.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,284 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Or it's genius. If it doesn't do well, which I'm guessing is expected, blame coronavirus. If it succeeds, great!


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