Things that grind my gears

beggars_bush · 17-07-2019 03:36PM

robertpatterson wrote: »

Tickets for the all Ireland finals going to all the clubs around the country
They should go to the clubs in the counties that are represented that day, if Louth and Antrim were in an all Ireland final their clubs should get the tickets any remaining can be offered elsewhere

Every club in the country gets to run an annual draw based on getting those tickets
I have issue with the officers of various committees and county boards getting tickets
I don't why the Cumann na mbunscol in e.g. Sligo should get hurling tickets every year

rpurfield · 17-07-2019 06:16PM

Bonniedog wrote: »

Another one!

The county secretary's niece doing an audition for Stars in their Eyes singing a Kazakh phonetic translation:

"Shove lift cunning all round the beam."

It's dreadful embarrassing insult. No wonder players pick their noses and bottoms during it before breaking away to perform star jumps before it ends.

Running joke here at home when I've a match on that it generally starts with someone murdering the national anthem. It reminds me that person that's in every extended family that's prevailed on to sing at every gathering because "they do it lovely" when in reality a bag of cats fighting would be easier on the ears.

jacool · 17-07-2019 06:44PM

People changing the narrative about a massive overspend to "the honour and integrity of this great county of Cork was damaged".
In the end it'll be "Sure we didn't spend €110m at all, only €95.8m"
A pity about the pitch, mind.

1984baby · 17-07-2019 07:14PM

castletownman wrote: »

"Shure lookit...." followed by the most bog-standard of analysis. Urusla Jacob is particularly fond of that phrase.

Ursula Jacob’s voice/accent actually grinds my ears!!

Bonniedog · 17-07-2019 08:16PM

1984baby wrote: »

Ursula Jacob’s voice/accent actually grinds my ears!!

Wexophobe

threeball · 17-07-2019 08:43PM

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

Bonniedog wrote: »

It is truly an abomination. If someone wants to listen to loud music then they can pop in their ear phones.

I suspect that it is a device to get people to go to the bars and concessions between games, and clear out quickly as soon as games are over. Even the celebrations at the end of finals are marred by this antisocial cr@p.

Who wants to hear a recording of The Rose of Mooncoin, or The Boys are Back in Town at the end of a match so they can't savour the occasion naturally?

When Limerick won the AI, I loved hearing the cranberries being belted out. I felt that added to the occasion in that instance.

One of the most perfect moments I ever had in Croke park was made by the music. Canning pointed from the sideline to go one up against Tipp in an epic match. Bubbles misses his chance 15 secs later. Ref blows the whistle, place went wild and Bruce Springsteen, Glory days starts blaring. It was just perfect. Half the stadium dancing, the other half still in their seats in disbelief.

citykat · 17-07-2019 10:49PM

The momentum killers. A team is on a bit of a run mid game. Out of nowhere a lad goes down with an injury or a missing lens. Play gets stopped for a couple of minutes. Rinse and repeat until that momentum is finally killed.

Bonniedog · 17-07-2019 11:00PM

citykat wrote: »

The momentum killers. A team is on a bit of a run mid game. Out of nowhere a lad goes down with an injury or a missing lens. Play gets stopped for a couple of minutes. Rinse and repeat until that momentum is finally killed.

It is called "controlling the pace of the game" apparently.

One of leading football contenders has it down to a fine art where they even do it gratuitously when game is well over.

Terrible to watch, but sure they couldn't care less

liatroimabu · 17-07-2019 11:49PM

As previously mentioned, the black card rule and its implementation, AI tickets going round to every county leaving them scarce in the competing counties, the guinness in croker and GAA pundits in general. Most come out with one good point and follow them with 55 bad ones, as they say even a broken clock is right twice a day.

My own pet peeve is the new system of cynical fouling that has emerged of hassling or wrapping a lad up when hes on the break inside his own half. Avoiding black and yellow cards but still killing any chance of a counter attack. Every bit as cynical as the black card fouls and should be dealt with similarly.

beggars_bush · 18-07-2019 08:33AM

citykat wrote: »

The momentum killers. A team is on a bit of a run mid game. Out of nowhere a lad goes down with an injury or a missing lens. Play gets stopped for a couple of minutes. Rinse and repeat until that momentum is finally killed.

It's always a head injury they go down with
No referee would want to get in trouble for not stopping play

robertpatterson · 18-07-2019 08:45AM

blanch152 wrote: »

This is a difficult one.

I have a season ticket and get an All-Ireland ticket if Dublin get there. A friend who comes to nearly every game with me doesn't get one because he was too late for the season tickets and no new Dublin ones have been issued for the last six years. Should he get a ticket if Dublin get there?

Then, I was talking to a voluntary mentor from another Dublin club, and he was telling me that his club raffle their allocation among the voluntary mentors. Those lads (and lassies) give up their time twice a week year in year out on a voluntary basis for the club and never really get the chance to go to matches as a result. Sounded fair that they should get a chance for an All-Ireland, even if it isn't their team?

There are pros and cons to every method of ticket allocation.

If Dublin are playing I think you should be able to go to the final
But if Limerick and Offaly are playing I think you should not, tickets should go to the counties clubs involved in the final
It kills me when I'm looking for a ticket for the final and you hear of clubs raffling them halfway around the country cos they've no involvement in the final

BPKS · 18-07-2019 08:48AM

The most annoying rule in Gaelic Football is where they penalise you if you barely take a step over the sideline when taking a sideline ball.

I'm not sure why they make such a big deal out of this yet fellas taking frees off their hands (going for a point) always end up kicking the ball around 5 yards closer in that where the foul was made.

Why not bring in the spray stuff the soccer refs have - doesnt have to be used all the time, just when its obvious a free taker is going to shoot for a score.

citykat · 18-07-2019 01:40PM

beggars_bush wrote: »

It's always a head injury they go down with
No referee would want to get in trouble for not stopping play

No problem with stopping play for a head injury. But when it's systematic and a cramp/muscle injury, maybe it's just me but I get suspicious.

wingbacknr5 · 18-07-2019 02:02PM

All seats in Croke Park costing the same whether they’re in the middle of the lower Hogan or in the nose bleed rows at the back of the upper Davin.

In fairness €80 for an AI final central Hogan or Cusack ticket is excellent value if you can get one, but it boils my pi$$ to have to pay the same for the back row corner of the Davin top deck.

Surely a fairer system would be to charge say €100 for the middle sections of the Hogan or Cusack and then decrease gradually back to €60 for the corners and behind the goal?

TCDStudent1 · 25-07-2019 04:13PM

wingbacknr5 wrote: »

All seats in Croke Park costing the same whether they’re in the middle of the lower Hogan or in the nose bleed rows at the back of the upper Davin.

In fairness €80 for an AI final central Hogan or Cusack ticket is excellent value if you can get one, but it boils my pi$$ to have to pay the same for the back row corner of the Davin top deck.

Surely a fairer system would be to charge say €100 for the middle sections of the Hogan or Cusack and then decrease gradually back to €60 for the corners and behind the goal?

In addition to this, I think the corners where the stands intersect are called Cusack / Hogan where they should be called Davin as they are more behind the goal than at the side.

threeball · 25-07-2019 04:29PM

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

In addition to this, I think the corners where the stands intersect are called Cusack / Hogan where they should be called Davin as they are more behind the goal than at the side.

This is a pet peeve of mine and a blatant attempt by the GAA to make tickets seem more appealing than they actually are. If they don't face directly to the side line they are not Cusack or hogan.

Rasputin11 · 25-07-2019 07:12PM

The rule that allows a red carded player to be replaced in extra time.

The_Kew_Tour · 25-07-2019 08:23PM

Poor Umpires and I mean I say 50% of them. Cause some have not got a clue.

Anyone watching the Cork ladies match at weekend will know what I'm talking about

castletownman · 25-07-2019 08:37PM

It would surely be feasible to have some sort of standards test for umpires, in the same way that referees at club level have to pass fitness parameters. I know it would be hard for a fella to say no to his dad or whatever, but its nepotism at its worst. Maybe even referees from the same county as the assigned ref or something to keep it neutral.

I do think somewhere like Croker could have its own independent team of umpires, in much the same way that Wimbledon have qualified/experienced line judges.

citykat · 26-07-2019 10:30AM

A simple eye test would be sufficient for most umpires:D

rpurfield · 26-07-2019 10:52AM

castletownman wrote: »

It would surely be feasible to have some sort of standards test for umpires, in the same way that referees at club level have to pass fitness parameters. I know it would be hard for a fella to say no to his dad or whatever, but its nepotism at its worst. Maybe even referees from the same county as the assigned ref or something to keep it neutral.

I do think somewhere like Croker could have its own independent team of umpires, in much the same way that Wimbledon have qualified/experienced line judges.

I can picture it now, a test that involved their speed from behind the goal to the flag, how quick they can pick it up, the width of their waving path and if they can signal a wide ball twenty times without tiring

Seriously though as far as I know the lads on the inter county panels do get brought in for training at the start of the year, what it entails I'm not sure.

dastardly00 · 26-07-2019 11:28AM

threeball wrote: »

This is a pet peeve of mine and a blatant attempt by the GAA to make tickets seem more appealing than they actually are. If they don't face directly to the side line they are not Cusack or hogan.

The intersection between the Hogan and Davin stand is not too bad but there are a few sections of the Cusack stand that are behind the end line which is absolutely taking the piss :mad:

Here is Section 315 in the "Cusack" stand

LoughNeagh2017 · 26-07-2019 05:51PM

The cultural and historical gate keeping that goes on between counties, maybe not uniquely a GAA thing but was made worse by the GAA, e.g. Meath thinking they are "the royal county" and things like that, I think the GAA attached itself to Irish history too much like naming clubs after saints and historical figures.

beggars_bush · 26-07-2019 06:02PM

LoughNeagh2017 wrote: »

The cultural and historical gate keeping that goes on between counties, maybe not uniquely a GAA thing but was made worse by the GAA, e.g. Meath thinking they are "the royal county" and things like that, I think the GAA attached itself to Irish history too much like naming clubs after saints and historical figures.

A nationalistic and sporting organisation trying to attach itself to national and historic figures and places from the past?
Surely not!

LoughNeagh2017 · 26-07-2019 06:18PM

beggars_bush wrote: »

A nationalistic and sporting organisation trying to attach itself to national and historic figures and places from the past?
Surely not!

Well is rugby not nationalistic in Wales but I'm sure you don't get most clubs named after a saint, Welsh historical figure or having old tribal crests used as a badge. It is even more silly when the GAA advertise the game in foreign countries and say "it's a game for all"

Bonniedog · 26-07-2019 06:56PM

LoughNeagh2017 wrote: »

Well is rugby not nationalistic in Wales but I'm sure you don't get most clubs named after a saint, Welsh historical figure or having old tribal crests used as a badge. It is even more silly when the GAA advertise the game in foreign countries and say "it's a game for all"

I don't think the IRFU would be too anxious to commemorate its historical connections somehow!

It's President was shot dead by Volunteers during the Easter rising in Dublin when out with the loyalist militia

LoughNeagh2017 · 26-07-2019 07:12PM

Bonniedog wrote: »

I don't think the IRFU would be too anxious to commemorate its historical connections somehow!

It's President was shot dead by Volunteers during the Easter rising in Dublin when out with the loyalist militia

the thing about the GAA is that they even use historical figures who were long dead when Gaelic Football was formed, medieval kings and saints actually have nothing to do with sports never mind gaelic football, if saints were alive today they would probably dislike sport due to it distracting people from God. Something else I noticed is that they aren't even consistent with the religion they are linking GAA with, some clubs are Christian saints and other clubs are named after Celtic Pagan figures. I know everyone apart from Ulster unionists would disagree with me but I don't care, the thread asked what grinds your gears and I have answered.

Rasputin11 · 26-07-2019 07:28PM

Bonniedog wrote: »

I don't think the IRFU would be too anxious to commemorate its historical connections somehow!

It's President was shot dead by Volunteers during the Easter rising in Dublin when out with the loyalist militia

Anywhere online that you could recommend for a bit of reading up on this?

Bonniedog · 26-07-2019 07:35PM

On 24th April 1916 members of the Irish Volunteers seized key buildings in Dublin . After six days they surrendered.
Francis (Frank) Henry Browning, the President of the Irish Football Union was the only rugby IFU official or player to be killed during the uprising. On the day of the rising, the Irish Rugby Union Football Corps headed by Browning had returned to Dublin from a route march and drill practice with drums beating and standards held a loft and marched straight into the middle that was the Rising, totally unaware of the events that were unfurling around them. The Corps in civilian clothes with arm-bands were carrying rifles but not ammunition; in the ensuing encounter with the "Rebels" seven members of the Corps were wounded, four fatally. Browning was shot in Haddington Road , (Beggars Bush) and died of his wounds two days later. He was buried in Deansgrange Cemetery , South Dublin .

http://therugbyhistorysociety.co.uk/irishww1.html

Nothing to do with modern IRFU obviously, but interesting historical note, especially given that a huge proportion of Volunteers out in 1916 were GAA members. O'Tooles have plaque in club house with well over 100 names.

Redsoxfan · 26-07-2019 08:06PM

LoughNeagh2017 wrote:

The cultural and historical gate keeping that goes on between counties, maybe not uniquely a GAA thing but was made worse by the GAA, e.g. Meath thinking they are "the royal county" and things like that, I think the GAA attached itself to Irish history too much like naming clubs after saints and historical figures.

Are you just bitter because 'The Saffrons'? Or do I have you misplaced?

Things that grind my gears

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