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Is this Irish law?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,682 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    I'm all about respect for the court of law and the concept of common manners, I'm a bit confused about this case.

    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/angry-judge-tells-cork-man-wearing-shorts-in-court-to-come-back-with-long-trousers-939216.html

    Is the Judge right in his ruling?


    Judge being an eejit. You'd want to see the absolute filth of some of the robes and wigs barristers wear in court rooms, but somehow someone wearing shorts on a hot day is out of line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    I suppose it shows lack of respect for the court.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,665 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    I've seen pictures of skangers in tracksuits being escorted into court, so not sure.

    Judges tend to be conservative and pompous so maybe it was that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,225 ✭✭✭jaxxx


    "Man who stood over injured woman (64) while masturbating and laughing given suspended sentence"

    https://www.thejournal.ie/man-injured-woman-masturbating-suspended-sentence-4739222-Jul2019/

    Where is the f*cking justice in this country................ The Irish judiciary are an absolute joke!!! THAT'S Irish law for ya!

    SUSPENDED SENTENCES ARE A DISGRACE AND SHOULD BE OUTLAWED!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,575 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    jaxxx wrote: »
    "Man who stood over injured woman (64) while masturbating and laughing given suspended sentence"

    https://www.thejournal.ie/man-injured-woman-masturbating-suspended-sentence-4739222-Jul2019/

    Where is the f*cking justice in this country................ The Irish judiciary are an absolute joke!!! THAT'S Irish law for ya!

    SUSPENDED SENTENCES ARE A DISGRACE AND SHOULD BE OUTLAWED!

    Could be just me but you seem to have gotten side tracked.

    Is that a "Yay" or "Nay" jaxxx?

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,372 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    You have to look respectable if you're going to court.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,225 ✭✭✭jaxxx


    Could be just me but you seem to have gotten side tracked.

    Is that a "Yay" or "Nay" jaxxx?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Double pay for the judges mates.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,463 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    branie2 wrote: »
    You have to look respectable if you're going to court.

    Why?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,463 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    mad muffin wrote: »
    I suppose it shows lack of respect for the court.

    How? Who is "the court" ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Autecher


    It's nonsense really of course. As has been said, spend a day in the four courts and you'll see an endless stream of skangers going in and out for their court appearances dressed in tracksuits and nothing is said. This particular scumbag broke a Gardai's nose and turned up to court in his best sweat pants and t-shirt combination and there is no report of the judge remarking on it at all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    We alwas had oddballs of District Judges. Frank Hall made a habit of reading out the various court reports in the provincial papers detailing accounts of cases and highlihting the Judges eccentricities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,575 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    https://cdn-03.independent.ie/incoming/article38115262.ece/92c71/AUTOCROP/w620/EEN%20KIELY%20390428699.jpg

    I wonder how the learned judge would have reacted if he was hearing this lady's case?

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Autecher


    https://cdn-03.independent.ie/incoming/article38115262.ece/92c71/AUTOCROP/w620/EEN%20KIELY%20390428699.jpg

    I wonder how the learned judge would have reacted if he was hearing this lady's case?
    She got a female judge that day who is due to sentence that woman this Tuesday. I wonder what she will wear for her 2nd appearance?

    Though to be fair if it was me I would have reacted like this

    casey_judge-300x300.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=300


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Edgware wrote: »
    We alwas had oddballs of District Judges. Frank Hall made a habit of reading out the various court reports in the provincial papers detailing accounts of cases and highlihting the Judges eccentricities.

    Had the misfortune back in the day to find myself before a particular district court judge in the border area.

    Waste of time having a solicitor as he just believed every lie spouted by the guard providing account details and would not let either myself or my solicitor get a word in.

    Same nutter made the headlines a year later for saying he would " blow the head off anyone who trespassed on his property" while dealing with a breaking and entering case.

    Good FF councellor from donegal who owed his position on the bench to a particular FF past minister who after loading up on liquor, liked to drive down motorways in the wrong direction.

    All judges owe their gig to political appointments.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Another spacer of a Judge in Dublin looked very favourably on pretty litle things with a extra button or two on the blouse open.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,575 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    How? Who is "the court" ?

    A court is any person or institution with authority to judge or adjudicate, often as a government institution, with the authority to adjudicate legal disputes between parties and carry out the administration of justice in civil, criminal, and administrative matters in accordance with the rule of law.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Judges shouldn't be wearing clobber brought in from when this country was occupied.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 892 ✭✭✭moonage




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Many of the lower class types up for minor offences in the District Court show up PJs and the likes.

    Anybody with a bit of breeding and class would obviously turn out well.


    It's adviable to suit and boot as a Defendent but I don't think that wearing causal atire can be taken as Contempt of Court.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭Glass fused light


    Judges shouldn't be wearing clobber brought in from when this country was occupied.

    don't know about mr trackie or ms nice blouse, but most of us would draw the line at having to appear in court in only our birthday suits.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭imme


    Autecher wrote: »
    It's nonsense really of course. As has been said, spend a day in the four courts and you'll see an endless stream of skangers going in and out for their court appearances dressed in tracksuits and nothing is said. This particular scumbag broke a Gardai's nose and turned up to court in his best sweat pants and t-shirt combination and there is no report of the judge remarking on it at all.


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    Wouldn't mind seeing this without his leisure wear.
    There are some hot scumbags out there!

    Judge in the shorts case was absolutely right.
    It is love island season but shorts are not appropriate for court.
    The shorts guy recognised this by turning up in court on Friday in navy suit and decorative handkerchief, as described by Irish examiner newspaper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭corks finest


    mad muffin wrote:
    I suppose it shows lack of respect for the court.


    Same way judges disrespect PPL trying to stay in their houses - aiding their barrister buddies representing the banks that destroyed our country?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,887 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Same way judges disrespect PPL trying to stay in their houses - aiding their barrister buddies representing the banks that destroyed our country?

    That’s just the judges applying the law, which is their job.

    Oh, and people aren’t trying to stay in “their” house.

    If they paid their mortgage they wouldn’t be in court.


  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    imme wrote: »
    Wouldn't mind seeing this without his leisure wear.
    There are some hot scumbags out there!


    Isn't there some death row convict somewhere you could propose marriage to ? :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    What happens if he wears shorts the next time? Will the judge keep turning him away?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭Glass fused light


    What happens if he wears shorts the next time? Will the judge keep turning him away?

    Can do.

    but in theory the judge could hold the person in contempt, as in lock him up for a period of time. The decision on if the person is given a fair process or not rests with the high court and supreme court if it's a point of law.
    So if on the 3/4 time the same dress was presented he would end up spending a few days in jail before it went to the high court.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,160 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    That judge is a self important, pompous embarrassment to the judiciary.

    The lack of respect for judges in society is caused by crazy lenient sentencing, crazy big payouts and this kind of knobology!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,931 ✭✭✭Marhay70


    Is there a dress code for a court appearance, can't say I've ever heard of one apart from offending public decency?


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