Brexit discussion thread IX (Please read OP before posting)

Headshot · 24-07-2019 07:34PM

Headshot wrote: »

Ya Grieve went to town on Boris, ripping into him

A great watch

Here's the video guys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDOnyqQffgg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDOnyqQffgg

L1011 · 24-07-2019 07:34PM

Truss to Trade. Does she have exciting new jam export deals planned?

Whens the confidence vote - there's enough rebels he's wholly failed to get onside to down him.

LuckyLloyd · 24-07-2019 07:35PM

gooch2k9 wrote: »

It's fairly obvious to anyone that Corbyn is the issue for Labour at the minute. Why is his leadership going unchallenged? Do the Labour membership think he is the best man for the job even though he's electorally toxic as proven by the polls.

40% at the last poll that mattered
Polls are particularly unstable in these extraordinary times

nc6000 · 24-07-2019 07:35PM

Harry Palmr wrote:

Who is playing that xylofoam? Is that Tubular Bells opening refrain?

It's being picked up by Sky, CNN and Channel 4 News microphones. It's hard to listen to.

J Mysterio · 24-07-2019 07:36PM

ambro25 wrote: »

I'm already dying of laughter after Raab here, so if JRM makes the list -and as Brexit Sec no less- have some pity because I'm going to need stitches!

I mean, you guys are really good, but you just gotta hand it to the Brits: no-one, but no-one, does humour like they do!

A new word must be invented soon, for parody-beating reality. All those "looking glass" and "postmodern" expressions just do not do justice to the surreal character of it all.

Barclay is staying on as Brexit Secretary.

Joe_ Public · 24-07-2019 07:36PM

Headshot wrote: »

Ya Grieve went to town on Boris, ripping into him

A great watch

The notion that when it really comes to the crunch all these anti no-deal conservatives will stay loyal to their party and avert the threat of a Jeremy Corbyn administration is fatally flawed imo. Justine Greening called no deal "the most profoundly unconservative policy i've ever come across" on tv this morning. For these people the immediate threat isn't Corbyn, its the thought of plunging their country into the kind of unmitigated chaos none of them have seen before. Ken Clarke is standing down at the next election, as are several other of his colleagues, they have nothing to lose and i dont think it would matter if they did anyway, they will take Johnson down if the need arises. I have absolutely no doubt about it.

For Forks Sake · 24-07-2019 07:38PM

J Mysterio wrote: »

Barclay is staying on as Brexit Secretary.

Rumours of Mogg to be Leader of the Commons.....

WomanSkirtFan8 · 24-07-2019 07:38PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I wish Sky would at least explain what it is.

you also had the empire's theme from star wars in there as well. Raab as foreign secretary, eh? Thats a really interesting development as the idiot didn't even know how important Dover was in terms of the UK's trade when he was brexit secretary a while ago. The EU are going to make absolute mince meat of this lot.:rolleyes:

Joe_ Public · 24-07-2019 07:39PM

L1011 wrote: »

Truss to Trade. Does she have exciting new jam export deals planned?

Whens the confidence vote - there's enough rebels he's wholly failed to get onside to down him.

Lynn "our flood defences worked really well up to the point at which they failed" Truss. I saw her belly laughing at Johnsons lame "Dude" schtick during yesterdays leadership announcement and knew then she'd have to fit in somewhere.

24-07-2019 07:40PM

Headshot wrote: »

Here's the video guys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDOnyqQffgg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDOnyqQffgg

I can hear the ‘Emperors March’ in there!! Quite apt tbh, as its like Emperor Palpatine has materialised for real and has taken control. Priti Patel in government. Oh dear.......

Stop moaning ffs · 24-07-2019 07:42PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Who is playing that xylofoam? Is that Tubular Bells opening refrain?

It’s the imperials March/Vader theme from Star Wars.

Apt and Thematic.

nc6000 · 24-07-2019 07:45PM

FrancieBrady wrote:

I wish Sky would at least explain what it is.

Adam Boulton was just discussing the increased numbers of protestors around Whitehall and referred to the team broadcasting from Westminster as having their own protestors before handing over to them.

Stop moaning ffs · 24-07-2019 07:50PM

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Julian Smith to NI according to the Beeb.

Ive never even heard of that person.
Does this mean they’ll be as clueless as Bradley?

J Mysterio · 24-07-2019 07:52PM

Joe_ Public wrote: »

The notion that when it really comes to the crunch all these anti no-deal conservatives will stay loyal to their party and avert the threat of a Jeremy Corbyn administration is fatally flawed imo. Justine Greening called no deal "the most profoundly unconservative policy i've ever come across" on tv this morning. For these people the immediate threat isn't Corbyn, its the thought of plunging their country into the kind of unmitigated chaos none of them have seen before. Ken Clarke is standing down at the next election, as are several other of his colleagues, they have nothing to lose and i dont think it would matter if they did anyway, they will take Johnson down if the need arises. I have absolutely no doubt about it.

Boris might be putting together this cabinet to precipitate the breakdown of government and force a GE. I wouldn't put anything past him.

FrancieBrady · 24-07-2019 07:52PM

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Ive never even heard of that person.
Does this mean they’ll be as clueless as Bradley?

Article behind a paywall, but the headline wouldn't inspire confidence.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/04/01/julian-smith-beleaguered-chief-whip-long-record-mistakes/

Enzokk · 24-07-2019 07:54PM

So yesterday we had a discussion about voting records speaking for themselves, I assume we can have the same thinking regarding a PM and their cabinet choices and what they stand for. In that case, Boris Johnson is a right wing racist who is going to ruin the country and could take us with him.

Harry Palmr · 24-07-2019 07:57PM

Jeremy Hunt looks to have been given the bums rush (or didn't seek a position knowing he'd not be asked)

J Mysterio · 24-07-2019 07:58PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Jeremy Hunt looks to have been given the bums rush (or didn't seek a position knowing he'd not be asked)

Supposedly, he wanted what Boris would not offer him: Chancellor/ Home Sec/ Foreign Affairs.

Rjd2 · 24-07-2019 08:06PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Apart from being a Brexiteer cabinet, this is also a very right wing cabinet.

As others have pointed out this is the most libertarian type government we have seen for a long time in the UK.

Definitely going to be interesting until it goes Pete Tong.

ancapailldorcha · 24-07-2019 08:07PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Jeremy Hunt looks to have been given the bums rush (or didn't seek a position knowing he'd not be asked)

He refused to be moved from Foreign Secretary which is one of the four great offices of state so Johnson had to remove him as he'll have allies who will expect rewarding for their support.

Atlantic Dawn · 24-07-2019 08:08PM

Sky News have their Brexit countdown graphic back, only 99 days to go, lol.

Rjd2 · 24-07-2019 08:10PM

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

He refused to be moved from Foreign Secretary which is one of the four great offices of state so Johnson had to remove him as he'll have allies who will expect rewarding for their support.

Not a totally unique strategy to be fair.

Do think its an odd call to dispatch Brokenshire,,popular and swore allegiance to Johnson early and went to bat for him in the media.

A Shropshire Lad · 24-07-2019 08:14PM

Dominic Raab as Foreign Secretary, lol

This guy couldnt support a deal that he himself negotiated. He literally cannot agree with himself !

J Mysterio · 24-07-2019 08:14PM

Rjd2 wrote: »

As others have pointed out this is the most libertarian type government we have seen for a long time in the UK.

Definitely going to be interesting until it goes Pete Tong.

Libertarian? No, I dont think so. This is a right wing conservative government.

Capt'n Midnight · 24-07-2019 08:14PM

Paradoxically Boris being Boris might help.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49098278

The Irish Times sees Mr Johnson as a "new nadir" in British politics, but holds out some hope that his personality might provide a way out of the backstop impasse.

"The best hope for Ireland and for Europe... is that Johnson will be guided by three of his worst traits... he doesn't mean a word he says, he is obsessed with power, and he is willing to betray those closest to him in the pursuit of that power," contends its editorial.

Stop moaning ffs · 24-07-2019 08:19PM

Been said many times Brexit can’t get more bizarre and it always does somehow.

We are now into a fatally comedic ridiculous cabinet.

The only upshot is when it all goes south it’ll be on the laps of each one of the absolutely unfit for office clowns Johnson has appointed and his own.

A Shropshire Lad · 24-07-2019 08:21PM

This is not a cabinet to govern, this is a cabinet to fight an election. They are expecting a general election sooner rather than later

Mr.Nice Guy · 24-07-2019 08:22PM

Raab as foreign secretary is just so depressing. I had hoped we had had heard the last of him when he lost the leadership bid.

dublinman1990 · 24-07-2019 08:29PM

Jeremy Corbyn has made calls to have a snap GE.

https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1154095209745190916

Theresa Villiers has been appointed Secretary for Environment, Food & Rural Affairs.

Irish Praetorian · 24-07-2019 08:29PM

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Raab as foreign secretary is just so depressing. I had hoped we had had heard the last of him when he lost the leadership bid.

To be fair to Dominic Raab, he can't do any worse than the previous Foreign Secretary.

Or maybe he will, and then he too can some day become PM.

Brexit discussion thread IX (Please read OP before posting)

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