Talk about shooting yourself in the foot

El_Bee · 19-07-2019 05:22PM #1

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/probe-launched-after-garda-accidentally-shoots-himself-in-the-foot-38327400.html

Probe launched after garda accidentally shoots himself in the foot

AN investigation is underway after a garda attached to specialist firearms unit accidentally shot himself in the foot.
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nuac · 19-07-2019 05:27PM

Accidents can happen.
It is sad that many Gaave to be armed to deal with certain situations and people

ED E · 19-07-2019 05:32PM

Seated in an ARV as the Brits call em? No way sidearm is doing that from a horizontal position on the leg. Gotta be an MP7 discharged on the chest rig. *Slow clap*

Sure they lost one of same before, great attention to detail they have.

DaveyDave · 19-07-2019 05:43PM

The safety was off and his finger was on the trigger inside a vehicle? That doesn't sound very smart.

Yer Da sells Avon · 19-07-2019 05:44PM

nuac wrote: »

Accidents can happen.

*extreme nasal voice*

Well actually, they're caused.

Odhinn · 19-07-2019 05:46PM

He's learnt to toe the line of firearm safety the hard way it seems.

Poor Uncle Tom · 19-07-2019 05:49PM

Lucky his foot wasn't in his mouth at the time.

Yer Da sells Avon · 19-07-2019 05:50PM

The officer, stationed in the south-west of the country, was injured after his weapon discharged while he was in a garda patrol vehicle.

They spelt veh-hicle wrong.

I wonder if the car was damaged, did they have to call a toe truck?

ToddyDoody · 19-07-2019 05:50PM

Literally.

Odhinn · 19-07-2019 05:51PM

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

They spelt veh-hicle wrong.

I wonder if the car was damaged, did they have to call a toe truck?

They could hardly be expected to foot it, given the circumstances.

ED E · 19-07-2019 05:51PM

DaveyDave wrote: »

The safety was off and his finger was on the trigger inside a vehicle? That doesn't sound very smart.

It most likely had a trigger safety too.

Yer Da sells Avon · 19-07-2019 05:52PM

Odhinn wrote: »

They could hardly be expected to foot it, given the circumstances.

Foot what? The Bill?

fineso.mom · 19-07-2019 05:53PM

I thought the title was a euphemism,but no, he literally shot himself in the foot.

kneemos · 19-07-2019 06:27PM

Where's the probe going?

Yer Da sells Avon · 19-07-2019 06:34PM

Can't believe people find this funny. You wouldn't be laughing if it was you who this happened toe.

kneemos · 19-07-2019 06:35PM

He shot the car as well presumably?

ED E · 19-07-2019 07:47PM

kneemos wrote: »

He shot the car as well presumably?

A toe does not stop an armour piercing steel round anyways (assuming an MP7)

Atlantic Dawn · 19-07-2019 07:50PM

The lads in the station will rip the pi$$ out of this person for life

KevRossi · 19-07-2019 08:00PM

He'll get €100,000 compo oir that in a couple of years time, somehow it will be the fault of the State/taxpayer.

NSAman · 19-07-2019 08:07PM

Yep Garda Compensation fund here we come.....

Buford T. Justice XIX · 19-07-2019 08:12PM

El_Bee wrote: »

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Force Carrier · 19-07-2019 08:34PM

KevRossi wrote: »

He'll get €100,000 compo oir that in a couple of years time, somehow it will be the fault of the State/taxpayer.

Don't think he'll be getting jack sh1t.
He obviously was not following safety procedures which would have formed part of his training. That means that the negligence is his and not the state's. Regardless of the extent of his injury he must show that someone else's negligence caused the injury in order to get money. Shoe's on the other foot etc.

Heckler · 19-07-2019 08:36PM

Not happy to see this but as a legal firearms holder of many years who gets thrown through the wringer by the Guards re firearms licensing its kinda funny.

I thought the armed Guards kept their guns in the boot till needed ? Maybe they carry a sidearm at all times dunno. Even a sidearm discharge holstered while seated would have the round skimming a thigh/knee not a foot. Ricochet who knows.

The Sig226 that I think they use doesn't have an external safety by design and doesn't make it unsafe but it smells like a bit of carelessness. Either way the poor bastard will be hounded by his collegues for all his days.

Or knowing this country he'll go to court for personal injury, emotional distress, deafness due to gunshot in an enclosed space, being taken the piss outta and inadequate firearms training. 200k. NEXT !

NSAman · 19-07-2019 08:39PM

Force Carrier wrote: »

Don't think he'll be getting jack sh1t.
He obviously was not following safety procedures which would have formed part of his training. That means that the negligence is his and not the state's. Regardless of the extent of his injury he must show that someone else's negligence caused the injury in order to get money. Shoe's on the other foot etc.

I'd say its flip flops at this stage....

Of course it will be negligence on the part of the State for purchasing firearms with "loose" safety catches.....

branie2 · 19-07-2019 08:44PM

ouch!

Force Carrier · 19-07-2019 08:49PM

NSAman wrote: »

I'd say its flip flops at this stage....

Of course it will be negligence on the part of the State for purchasing firearms with "loose" safety catches.....

People have lost the run of themselves with this personal injury payout thing.
Behind the firoaree claims are lost every day. Even more people are turned down by solicitors who would take a case that has no chance. Shockingly there is also a lot of reasonably honest people out there who take responsibility for their own mistakes. The stuff on the other side makes the headlines.

The officer will have had to pull the trigger right back to the guard for his gun to discharge. Why was his finger even on the trigger? There is no way AGS or the state is liable for this accident. No solicitor would even run it.

Heckler · 19-07-2019 09:18PM

Force Carrier wrote: »

People have lost the run of themselves with this personal injury payout thing.
Behind the firoaree claims are lost every day. Even more people are turned down by solicitors who would take a case that has no chance. Shockingly there is also a lot of reasonably honest people out there who take responsibility for their own mistakes. The stuff on the other side makes the headlines.

The officer will have had to pull the trigger right back to the guard for his gun to discharge. Why was his finger even on the trigger? There is no way AGS or the state is liable for this accident. No solicitor would even run it.

Can be many reasons for an accidental discharge. Guns are mechanical devices which can fail. Where I shoot the safety is never a given. Guns are unloaded while not on a firing line. Guns are never loaded when holstered. Obviously the Guards have a whole different way of operating. Its hard to see how it happened without negligence but there could be an innocent reason.

Force Carrier · 19-07-2019 09:21PM

Heckler wrote: »

Guns are mechanical devices which can fail.

Describe a mechanical failure where there is an "accidental discharge" of a holstered gun and the cop's finger is not on the trigger.

Describe the mechanics of that.

Phileas Frog · 19-07-2019 09:26PM

What pistols do the Guards use? Most pistols don't have safety catches despite the nonsense posted above, though the member in question must have cocked the weapon as there was a round in the chamber.

Force Carrier · 19-07-2019 09:33PM

Phileas Frog wrote: »

What pistols do the Guards use? Most pistols don't have safety catches despite the nonsense posted above, though the member in question must have cocked the weapon as there was a round in the chamber.

If you had read the "nonsense above" someone already posted which gun they use - Sig226 and that it has no external safety catch.

The issue is that the garda was sitting in a moving vehicle. Does his training direct him to be loading his gun, drawing his gun, having his finger on the trigger while in the car? How will a so called accidental discharge occur if the gun is holstered?

elperello · 19-07-2019 09:35PM

It's easy to make light of a case like this but we should remember why this member of AGS and his colleagues are out there.

“We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm.”

Talk about shooting yourself in the foot

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