ISPs to block Illegal Streaming of UK Premiership games [READ POST #3 BEFORE POSTING]

galtee boy wrote: »

I don't know, someone with knowledge of EU laws regarding selling tv subscriptions outside the country where the broadcaster has a licence for, might answer? If it was easy, legal and cheaper, why haven't we all been subscribed to Canal + or Bein Sports before now ?

DAZN is legal to buy and use anywhere in Europe (afaik) and there are forums for syncing the English audio. That's only €9.99 per month.
I haven't tried it myself.
Amazon coming this year too, and that's included in Prime sub. Anyone with illegal IPTV on their Firesticks need to block updates for it, but that has been said it mightn't make any difference as they may be able to switch something anyway.

Here is a decent article from the times last week
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/pay-for-play-is-sport-on-tv-in-danger-of-eating-itself-1.3950334

It probably won't be long before FuboTV, ESPN+, Fox Soccer Match Pass, YoutubeTV or Hulu are an option over here without the need for a vpn or workarounds.

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

It would be nice to see one of the Irish channels dedicate sports time to the minor sports, FTA.
People like to watch sports and the interest might be much better than expected.
It would surely beat repeats of repeats of nonsense programs we presently see.

I could see myself watching the likes of
table tennis
squash
badminton
and more, if they were shown for specific competitions.

None of those would be costly ..... and I am certain there are lots of other minor sports they could choose.

No, I do not expect that to happen

Be nice to see an Irish channel show Irish sports for beginners.

Rossi IRL wrote: »

They need to make all games available to view.

I have sky and bt but sometimes the game I want to watch isn't on any TV channel.

I'll stream it if there is no other option.

That's the problem. Look at the premier league subs available outside UK and Ireland. They get every single game for a fraction of the price. Where you now need SKY, BT and Premier sports for a huge fee and only get a fraction of the games. Until this model is changed people will continue to stream illegally and there will always be a way around it.

Was researching iptv and the like this week, contacting people offering on done deal. Almost spent €250 on a box with “everything”, might have dodged a bullet, time will tell. Only wanted football because eir lost BT Sports. Bought an Amazon Fire Tv stick in the Amazon sale today, €23 hopefully someone will find a way round all this.

worlds goodest teecher wrote:

Was researching iptv and the like this week, contacting people offering on done deal. Almost spent €250 on a box with “everythingâ€, might have dodged a bullet, time will tell. Only wanted football because eir lost BT Sports. Bought an Amazon Fire Tv stick in the Amazon sale today, €23 hopefully someone will find a way round all this.

You get a D- for your research

Clareman wrote:

My guess is that as every steam will be of an offically licensed broadcast that something will be embedded in the image that can be identified

They already do that. Streams I watch have a blurred section at the top right hand corner where something is embedded in the picture by the broadcaster. My provider just blurs it out. Always wondered why broadcasters don't actively move it around the screen during games.

As others have said, until all games every game week are available and at reasonable prices this will continue and this measure today is already easily bypassed. I'd like to be able to buy a package for just my clubs games but that won't happen until the TV bubble finally bursts which it will. Year on year growth in prices paid by the broadcasters for the packages has been getting smaller and smaller cos they just can't recoup those ever increasing costs via their customers. Overseas packages revenue continued to grow though.

Current tack is to try block the illegal streams and force people to pay their over priced charges but it won't work and there will eventually have to be a sanity check in Sky, BT and Premier league HQ.

Suckit wrote: »

They brought in the exact same law last year in the UK.
They find the sources for the streams or providers and block their IP's. It works for a few hours and then everything is bck to normal.
It's very hard for them to block them outright, but anyone with the firesticks and illegal iptv will take a hammering this year. And anyone with UK base illegal IPTV will also take a huge hammering.



I'm looking at buying a DAZN month and see how it goes when the football starts.

Seeing as DAZN requires a VPN to work properly, is there a point to it? Once you have a decent subscription VPN, then why pay extra for DAZN?

worlds goodest teecher wrote: »

The logic in my thinking was that (a) it was a good price for today only and a lot less risky than shelling out a couple of hundred for something I wasn’t sure would work come the start of the season and (b) it is what my nephew uses to stream PL so let him figure it out. Minimal financial loss, surely I deserve a C for that.

I think you get a D for looking on done deal and was willing to pay 250 euro for it

Suckit wrote: »

They brought in the exact same law last year in the UK.
They find the sources for the streams or providers and block their IP's. It works for a few hours and then everything is bck to normal.
It's very hard for them to block them outright, but anyone with the firesticks and illegal iptv will take a hammering this year. And anyone with UK base illegal IPTV will also take a huge hammering.



I'm looking at buying a DAZN month and see how it goes when the football starts.

For $150 a year on DAZN you get all PL, CL, Pro 12/Champions Cups/All NFL plus a whole array of other sports. If this was a available here they would be no need for illegal streams, even at double this price it would be good value.

icdg wrote: »

Can we drop the DAZN/circumventing regional restrictions talk please

Isn't that a completely legal option though? Under EU law they're allowed to provide their service in any country no?

Its just another anti piracy advertisement before the season starts.

The truth is what they are suggesting is impossible to implement. Someone who dropped in from another planet might believe that ISPs are interested in helping the EPL/Sky etc by policing the internet for anyone streaming.

Technically even if IP's were blocked, its a game of whack a mole.

Someone asked about buying Canal+ on Sat etc. Yeah its fine to buy goods within the EU etc for your own private use but to be honest you wont be interested anyway unless you speak the foreign language of that country. Only native languages are allowed on the commentary streams.

I don't know how anyone can watch the illegal internet streams, the quality is awful and the host sources are riddled with malware.

Someone said it earlier, its time for the EPL to think of a Netflix model.

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

This sounds very much the same as when the ISP's blocked access to The Pirate Bay.

Napster