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Antifa [Mod Warning on post #1 - updated 08/08/19]

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    #1502
    [Deleted User]
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    Imreoir2 wrote:
    Supporting antifa, however, does not equate to supporting right wing terrorists.

    Ok. Nobody said it did...


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    #1503
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    20Cent wrote: »
    The US president posting blatantly racist tweets.

    Antifa are far away from being a problem.

    You seem to think it's a competition, it's not. Your posts are classic whataboutism.

    The thread is about Antifa and this week one of their scumbag members attacked ICE facilities armed with a gun and explosives, leaving behind him a call for others to do the same. Which many have now suggested they will, and you have the gall to say they are "far away from being a problem".

    There's a lot of attempted deflection being posted on this thread, I wish people would stop falling for it (myself included) as that's all it is.


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    #1504
    Imreoir2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭Imreoir2


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Ok. Nobody said it did...

    There is often an atempt at false equlivance that antifa are as bad as the right wing extremists they target.


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    #1505
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,465 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Imreoir2 wrote: »
    Supporting antifa, however, does not equate to supporting right wing terrorists.

    Not far off it though, difference between supporting Liverpool or Arsenal.

    Same game. Same type of players, just different colours.


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    #1506
    Sweetemotion
    Registered Users Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    20Cent wrote: »
    Missiles, weapons cache.
    A lad getting a box.



    The exact same.

    All this, it's just a slap or a box from you seems like you are trying to justify yourself from giving a slap and a box to someone. Maybe a wife or girlfriend, I don't know but it just gets creppier every time you try to defend it.


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    #1507
    Woodsie1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Woodsie1


    Sweetemotion wrote: »
    All this, it's just a slap or a box from you seems like you are trying to justify yourself from giving a slap and a box to someone. Maybe a wife or girlfriend, I don't know but it just gets creppier every time you try to defend it.

    Dont you need to actually have a wife or girlfriend in order to slap them?
    These lads seem frustrated,the love of a good woman might cool their jets a bit!!


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    #1508
    Imreoir2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭Imreoir2


    Sweetemotion wrote: »
    All this, it's just a slap or a box from you seems like you are trying to justify yourself from giving a slap and a box to someone. Maybe a wife or girlfriend, I don't know but it just gets creppier every time you try to defend it.

    Just like what you have to say can't help but look like defending the neo-nazi getting the slap, almost like you are worried about attracting one yourself.


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    #1509
    Sweetemotion
    Registered Users Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    Woodsie1 wrote: »
    Dont you need to actually have a wife or girlfriend in order to slap them?
    These lads seem frustrated,the love of a good woman might cool their jets a bit!!

    It could be his boyfriend beating him. Something isn't right.


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    #1510
    Woodsie1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Woodsie1


    Sweetemotion wrote: »
    It could be his boyfriend beating him. Something isn't right.

    Doubt hes got anyone,too bitter,twisted and angry at the world,like they've been hard done by or something.Seems a common trait among these sort.


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    #1511
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Ignore points made and attack the poster a typical alt right tactic, and they say they are against identity politics.


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    #1512
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    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    20Cent wrote:
    Ignore points made and attack the poster a typical alt right tactic, and they say they are against identity politics.

    I think you will find that the "points" you made have been addressed. I can't speak for people who are attacking you but it's good for you that they did, as now you are able to concentrate on that and deflect from valid points.


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    #1513
    Woodsie1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Woodsie1


    20Cent wrote: »
    Ignore points made and attack the poster a typical alt right tactic, and they say they are against identity politics.

    You made no points,now you are crying:rolleyes:


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    #1514
    The Late Late Show
    Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭The Late Late Show


    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    Daniel Craig is still James Bond. The Black Woman is the new 007.

    This desire to try and reinvent every franchise and deliberately try and turn characters into the opposite gender is stupid. I no more want James Bond to be a woman than I would want Offred/June, Serena Joy or Aunt Lydia from The Handmaid's Tale to be men. Leave the creations of great writers alone and do not tamper with them. Jamie Bond or The Handman's Tale? No thank you. I'll stick with James Bond, The Handmaid's Tale, and every other franchise just as they are intended by their creators.


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    #1515
    dudara
    Registered Users Posts: 33,519 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Cut out the sniping and bickering. Attack the post, not the poster.

    dudara


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    #1516
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    The president of the USA is acting like an alt right s1tposter at the moment.

    The far right aren't a problem?

    LvlcA06.jpg


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    #1517
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    20Cent wrote: »
    Ignore points made and attack the poster a typical alt right tactic, and they say they are against identity politics.

    which is exactly what you have been doing in this thread all along ,


    but you know that dont you :):)


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    #1518
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    20Cent wrote: »
    The president of the USA is acting like an alt right s1tposter at the moment.

    The far right aren't a problem?

    LvlcA06.jpg
    Such faux outrage. Trump called out Congresswoman Ilhan Omar in a tweet, the Somali-born left-wing member of Congress who feels her new country is a hellhole. Omar's assimilation into America is the assimilation of identity politics and grievance, and her default is to blame America first. Trump urged her to return to her native country and fix it before presuming to tell us what to do. I believe many Americans agree with what Trump thinks in this matter. And let’s face it, Omar proved Trump’s point when she still refuses to say she does not support Al Qaeda. She is a radical anti-Semitic ingrate. Omar’s approval ratings are in the toilet at 9% and I’m surprised they’re even that high. Trump Derangement Syndrome rots the brain!

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #1519
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Is there a website somewhere that informs right wingers how to respond to the latest trump diatribes and racist hissy fits?

    You'd swear there was.


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    #1520
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    20Cent wrote: »
    Is there a website somewhere that informs right wingers how to respond to the latest trump diatribes and racist hissy fits?

    You'd swear there was.
    Common sense has its own website?

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #1521
    The Late Late Show
    Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭The Late Late Show


    20Cent wrote: »
    The president of the USA is acting like an alt right s1tposter at the moment.

    The far right aren't a problem?

    LvlcA06.jpg

    May the lord open, Nidgie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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    #1522
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Common sense has its own website?

    No it's just amazing how many incorrect assumptions and downright lies that can be fit into a paragraph. Takes real skill.


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    #1523
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    20Cent wrote: »
    No it's just amazing how many incorrect assumptions and downright lies that can be fit into a paragraph. Takes real skill.
    What incorrect assumptions and downright lies do you speak of?

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #1524
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Such faux outrage. Trump called out Congresswoman Ilhan Omar in a tweet, the Somali-born left-wing member of Congress who feels her new country is a hellhole. Omar's assimilation into America is the assimilation of identity politics and grievance, and her default is to blame America first. Trump urged her to return to her native country and fix it before presuming to tell us what to do. I believe many Americans agree with what Trump thinks in this matter. And let’s face it, Omar promved Trump’s point when she still refuses to say she does not support Al Qaeda. She is a radical anti-Semitic ingrate. Omar’s approval ratings are in the toilet at 9% and I’m surprised they’re even that high. Trump Derangement Syndrome rots the brain!

    Such guff. He called out four women of colour and said they should go back to where they came from and not speak out on the governance of the US. Three were born in the US, and all are elected to govern by the US electorate. They are US citizens, mandated by other US citizens, and Trump’s fabrication of inane ISIS or al Qaeda support claims on behalf of Ilhan Omar just doubles down on the racist stupidity. That you’d defend such racist idiocy is remarkable.

    Worth pointing out also that the entire Trump presidential campaign was based on the premise that the USA was less than great in it’s current guise. MAGA how are you?


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    #1525
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Omar’s approval ratings are in the toilet at 9% and I’m surprised they’re even that high. Trump Derangement Syndrome rots the brain!

    Just on that, that was from a deeply criticised Democrat group poll taken from just over a thousand non college educated white males in swing states and not from her own constituents. But I presume you knew that...

    I'm sure her approval ratings took a bash after the accusations of anti-semitism but I seriously doubt they would be as low as 9%
    An anonymous Democratic group leaked an internal poll to Axios on Sunday that shows white non-college-educated "swing voters" deeply dislike prominent progressive lawmakers, exacerbating a public rift within the Democratic party.

    The poll found that Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez had a 22% approval rating and Rep. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota had a 9% approval rating among 1,003 "likely general-election voters who are white and have two years or less of college education" and knew of the two outspoken lawmakers. A whopping 74% of these voters had heard of Ocasio-Cortez, while 53% had heard of Omar.

    "If all voters hear about is AOC, it could put the [House] majority at risk," a Democrat involved in the 2020 congressional races told Axios. "She's getting all the news and defining everyone else's races."

    The survey looked at a slice of the voting public that is disinclined to approve of the left. Some progressive pollsters and others argued that the poll results were taken out of context and pointed to other polls that show more moderate Democrats like Joe Biden also have relatively low approval ratings among white non-college-educated voters as well.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=110705268


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    #1526
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    20Cent wrote: »
    The president of the USA is acting like an alt right s1tposter at the moment.

    The far right aren't a problem?

    LvlcA06.jpg

    ICE are responsible for enforcing immigration laws in america and for removing people who entered the country illegally. .ie sending them back where they come from .

    We have INIS and Gardai who do the same job here or are you against that too

    or are you just going to ignore that point too ?


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    #1527
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,047 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    notobtuse wrote: »
    What incorrect assumptions and downright lies do you speak of?




    You have a source for this?
    Congresswoman Ilhan Omar in a tweet, the Somali-born left-wing member of Congress who feels her new country is a hellhole


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    #1528
    Stop moaning ffs
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Stop moaning ffs


    Can I get an explainer please?
    These lads are sayin they’re anti fascists, but they’re going around beating people and journalists up and shooting them,
    So they’re.....militant anti fascists? Or actually fascists themselves?

    Do i have that right?
    What’s the end game with them?


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    #1529
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Scene from a Will Ferrall movie.
    Satire seems to have come true.




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    #1530
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Stop moaning ffs wrote: »
    Can I get an explainer please?
    These lads are sayin they’re anti fascists, but they’re going around beating people and journalists up and shooting them,
    So they’re.....militant anti fascists? Or actually fascists themselves?

    Do i have that right?
    What’s the end game with them?

    None of that is right.


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    #1531
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    kunst nugget wrote: »
    Just on that, that was from a deeply criticised Democrat group poll taken from just over a thousand non college educated white males in swing states and not from her own constituents. But I presume you knew that...

    I'm sure her approval ratings took a bash after the accusations of anti-semitism but I seriously doubt they would be as low as 9%



    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=110705268
    Obviously not a downright lie then, correct? And who 'deeply criticized' the Democrat group that put out the poll? Aliens?

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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