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Peter Casey's beliefs of Travellers' ethnicity Part II

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    #2162
    whisky_galore
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    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    So in both cases they are on land that doesn't belong to them yet it's everyone else that is at fault:rolleyes:

    And of course Conners is in the middle of it talking sh1te.

    "The tender itself was hateful, it's mindblowing, if it was any other minority there would be uproar."

    I don't see too many Chinese, Muslims or Polish rocking up in caravans to occupy land that isn't theirs and knocking the shït out of each other at weddings and funerals.
    Traveller behaviour is incompatible with life in 21st century Ireland.


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    #2163
    splinter65
    Registered Users Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    The Cabragh Bridge Thurles saga continues unabated and I have asked John Connors to get involved because he might actually be able to help but he’s ignored me so far.
    An agreement was reached between the 6 families and Tipp CoCo which was complicated but agreeable to all.
    The end result would be that the 6 families would get the keys to the houses and the council would build stables on the waste ground vacated by the travelers in moving over to the houses.
    No mobile homes etc would be ever allowed on that waste ground ever again.
    The waste ground would now be gated with each family having a key to the gates so they could ensure that no other travelers could come and park there.
    This was agreeable to all.
    However, in the last 12 months 4 further families (4 grandchildren of the family matriarch) moved their families in caravans onto the bridge too.
    They are claiming that they are entitled to be there.
    The agreement of the handover of the keys and the hating of the bridge will not go ahead until these families have moved to the accommodation the council have offered them.
    They are refusing to move.
    TippCoCo have gone to the High Court to have them evicted forcefully,
    The 6 families all want them gone too.


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    #2164
    AllForIt
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    Meanwhile in Castlebar travelers have caused so much agro in the town in the last year, that a special meeting has been called between local businesses and the Guards to deal with the situation. So as not to have to repeat myself https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=110607146&postcount=1 . To be absolutely fair it's not 100% travelers but it is about 80%.

    Aside from incidents which I myself was a victim of, I do see on a daily basis travellers loitering around the shops, especially the 2 Euro shops/Mr Price's etc. Just last month I overheard a group of traveler girls arguing with the store manager "It's not YOUR shop!". Clearly they don't understand the concept of assuming RESPONSIBILITY in a gainful employment scenario. I caught a glimpse of the managers facial expression after they'd left where he looked totally bewildered. Felt sorry for the guy.

    Here's another example of the type type of stuff that goes on https://www.con-telegraph.ie/news/roundup/articles/2018/11/20/4165351-judge-orders-woman-to-stay-out-of-all-shops-in-mayo-county-town/ . She also likes to elbow people on the high street when not involved in more serious stuff which I can personally attest to.

    This country seems to be in the grips of an aberrant version of socialist ideology that goes after everyone except the lower social classes. I just wish there was someone more shrewd than Peter Casey to counteract this. The traveller issue is not going away, in fact it's getting worse all the time and it needs to be sorted.


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    #2165
    Jupiter Mulligan
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    AllForIt wrote: »

    This country seems to be in the grips of an aberrant version of socialist ideology that goes after everyone except the lower social classes. I just wish there was someone more shrewd than Peter Casey to counteract this. The traveller issue is not going away, in fact it's getting worse all the time and it needs to be sorted.

    It's an incurable problem. I have massive respect and sympathy for the members of An Garda Siochana who must tackle it on a regular basis.

    On the bright side, writing about the litany of unending wrongs imposed by the settled community on this admirable ethnic group has provided a steady income for Kitty Holland in the Irish Times and there seems very little possibility that her well of indignation will run dry.


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    #2166
    NIMAN
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    The horse has bolted folks, its too late.

    This problem should have been sorted properly, but now since the state handed them ethnic status, its never going to get sorted.


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    #2167
    suicide_circus
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    maybe if we give every traveller a million euro reparations then they wouldnt be reduced to criminality and ant social behaviou


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    #2168
    end of the road
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    NIMAN wrote: »
    The horse has bolted folks, its too late.

    This problem should have been sorted properly, but now since the state handed them ethnic status, its never going to get sorted.

    their ethnic status is irrelevant to this problem.
    the reason criminality whether it be in the traveler community or other won't get sorted is the government don't want to pay for the garda resources to deal with it.
    if the gardai were funded and resourced properly then criminality would be hugely reduced. it will never completely go away however.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #2169
    Jupiter Mulligan
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    end of the road wrote: »
    their ethnic status is irrelevant to this problem.
    the reason criminality whether it be in the traveler community or other won't get sorted is the government don't want to pay for the garda resources to deal with it.
    if the gardai were funded and resourced properly then criminality would be hugely reduced. it will never completely go away however.

    Not if the judiciary continue to issue community orders or suspended sentences to repeat offence scumbags (be they traveller or settled).


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    #2170
    NIMAN
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    But have the Gardai really tackled traveller criminality?
    Or have they taken a light handed approach?

    When the force acts now it will have detractors calling it racist? Look what happened in the UK, when forces let crimes take place for fear of upsetting certain minorities or having their reputation challenged.


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    #2171
    Sonny noggs
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    maybe if we give every traveller a million euro reparations then they wouldnt be reduced to criminality and ant social behaviou

    Probably cheaper in the long run. :(


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    #2172
    end of the road
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    Jupiter Mulligan wrote: »
    Not if the judiciary continue to issue community orders or suspended sentences to repeat offence scumbags (be they traveller or settled).

    the judges can only work within the guidelines and rules they are given.
    higher sentences for crimes will require law and guideline changes in some or probably all cases.
    NIMAN wrote: »
    But have the Gardai really tackled traveller criminality?
    Or have they taken a light handed approach?

    i believe that they have been trying to deal with it. however it's not easy with the resources they have.
    other agencies like cab are doing their bit also but even so they aren't going to be able to do a massive amount.
    NIMAN wrote: »
    When the force acts now it will have detractors calling it racist?

    when a police force enforces basic law it has it's detractors. that's just life. as long as they operate to the rules and are transparent then there isn't an issue.
    NIMAN wrote: »
    Look what happened in the UK, when forces let crimes take place for fear of upsetting certain minorities or having their reputation challenged.

    i have a feeling there was more to that then just those specific issues but perhapse that is another discussion for another thread.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #2173
    Galwayguy35
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    end of the road wrote: »
    their ethnic status is irrelevant to this problem.
    the reason criminality whether it be in the traveler community or other won't get sorted is the government don't want to pay for the garda resources to deal with it.
    if the gardai were funded and resourced properly then criminality would be hugely reduced. it will never completely go away however.

    More like the Guards are afraid to look sideways at the ethnic minority or the Galaxy S10 would be out recording and Winnie and Martin would be shouting about racism.


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    #2174
    super_furry
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    Jaysus is Peter Casey still a thing?


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    #2175
    end of the road
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    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    More like the Guards are afraid to look sideways at the ethnic minority or the Galaxy S10 would be out recording and Winnie and Martin would be shouting about racism.

    yeah, sure.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #2176
    freshpopcorn
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    super_furry wrote: »
    Jaysus is Peter Casey still a thing?

    It appears so.
    The families who refused to move into there perfect houses in tipperary helped Peter to go from the bottom of the poles to second place.
    So when these families are mentioned again chances are Peter will also!


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    #2177
    elperello
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    super_furry wrote: »
    Jaysus is Peter Casey still a thing?

    Seriously, if people are really interested in having a grown up discussion about the relationship between travelers and the rest of us it is time to forget about Casey.
    You could go on forever with this thread invoking his name to discuss the latest outrage of the day but what does it achieve?


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    #2178
    BattleCorp
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    elperello wrote: »
    Seriously, if people are really interested in having a grown up discussion about the relationship between travelers and the rest of us it is time to forget about Casey.
    You could go on forever with this thread invoking his name to discuss the latest outrage of the day but what does it achieve?

    I'm not a mad fan of Casey nor do I think he would make a good politician but it was refreshing to see some honesty from a candidate instead of only hearing from five liars who said they'd have no problem living next to a halting site.

    The truth is that fcukall people would choose to live beside a halting site because of the unsocial nature of travellers. And I'm being nice here by calling them unsocial. Downright criminal is probably more accurate.

    But yeah, we do need to have a talk, or a grown up discussion as you call it but more than talk is needed. We (the State) needs to do something to solve the criminality problem that seems to be rampant in the traveller community but there's a lack of enthusiasm for the task because the media and the politicians seem to be afraid to call a spade a spade and tackle the issue.

    Never mind being afraid to be seen to be politically correct. They need to fcuk out all notions of political correctness and actually do something to solve the problem.


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    #2179
    donkeykong5
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    Peter Casey for taoiseach. NOW.


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    #2180
    end of the road
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    donkeykong5 wrote: »
    Peter Casey for taoiseach. NOW.


    nope.
    not going to happen.
    he's a 1 trick pony like flip flop failed to get elected 7 times as an mp farrage.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #2181
    fin12
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    end of the road wrote: »
    nope.
    not going to happen.
    he's a 1 trick pony like flip flop failed to get elected 7 times as an mp farrage.

    He’d be better than that clown we have as Taoiseach now anyway.


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    #2182
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,282 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Notice how the media invented a green party super surge and FG/FF were both out hefore the counts were even done saying ‘the people have spoken’ on climate issues and that theyd adopt policies.

    Peter casey goes from dead last to second in the presidential election and almost got a seat in europe purely under the basis that he was the only politician who’d recognise the massive problems travellers cause in ireland , did FF/FG come out and say ‘the people have spoken , well make policies to deal with it’ not a chance.


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    #2183
    end of the road
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    fin12 wrote: »
    He’d be better than that clown we have as Taoiseach now anyway.

    he would be even worse then varadkar. we would be an international joke with casey as taoiseach. even britain would have something to laugh at and they are in no position to laugh at anyone currently.
    as i said, i firmly believe that casey is a 1 trick pony who would have got no where but for him throwing out a few generalising statements against the traveling community, which, while they are factual in relation to some members, aren't in relation to all.
    i suspect that even if he ever got into power he would do absolutely nothing about the issues he complains about.


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Notice how the media invented a green party super surge and FG/FF were both out hefore the counts were even done saying ‘the people have spoken’ on climate issues and that theyd adopt policies.

    Peter casey goes from dead last to second in the presidential election and almost got a seat in europe purely under the basis that he was the only politician who’d recognise the massive problems travellers cause in ireland , did FF/FG come out and say ‘the people have spoken , well make policies to deal with it’ not a chance.


    because there are already policies to deal with it. they are called the laws of the land.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #2184
    fin12
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    end of the road wrote: »
    he would be even worse then varadkar. we would be an international joke with casey as taoiseach. even britain would have something to laugh at and they are in no position to laugh at anyone currently.
    as i said, i firmly believe that casey is a 1 trick pony who would have got no where but for him throwing out a few generalising statements against the traveling community, which, while they are factual in relation to some members, aren't in relation to all.
    i suspect that even if he ever got into power he would do absolutely nothing about the issues he complains about.



    The British were laughing at Varadkar when he first went over to Theresa May and his stupid comment about watching that Hugh Grant film and being such a fan, can’t believe his in 10 Downing Street. He’s a absolute embarrassment and I swear he better publicly apologize to Michael Martin for comparing him to a sinning priest, his a disgusting p*rick. He made that Comment when Michael Martin is trying to get roads upgraded in Cork but of course cause it’s not about Dublin he couldn’t give a flying f*ck. He hasn’t done a thing noteworthy since he became Taoiseach except jump on the back of both referendums which would both have been passed anyway regardless of who was in office.


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    #2185
    donkeykong5
    Registered Users Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    fin12 wrote: »
    end of the road wrote: »
    nope.
    not going to happen.
    he's a 1 trick pony like flip flop failed to get elected 7 times as an mp farrage.

    He’d be better than that clown we have as Taoiseach now anyway.
    Million times better !


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    #2186
    donkeykong5
    Registered Users Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    fin12 wrote: »
    end of the road wrote: »
    he would be even worse then varadkar. we would be an international joke with casey as taoiseach. even britain would have something to laugh at and they are in no position to laugh at anyone currently.
    as i said, i firmly believe that casey is a 1 trick pony who would have got no where but for him throwing out a few generalising statements against the traveling community, which, while they are factual in relation to some members, aren't in relation to all.
    i suspect that even if he ever got into power he would do absolutely nothing about the issues he complains about.



    The British were laughing at Varadkar when he first went over to Theresa May and his stupid comment about watching that Hugh Grant film and being such a fan, can’t believe his in 10 Downing Street. He’s a absolute embarrassment and I swear he better publicly apologize to Michael Martin for comparing him to a sinning priest, his a disgusting p*rick. He made that Comment when Michael Martin is trying to get roads upgraded in Cork but of course cause it’s not about Dublin he couldn’t give a flying f*ck. He hasn’t done a thing noteworthy since he became Taoiseach except jump on the back of both referendums which would both have been passed anyway regardless of who was in office.
    Well said. He is useless. Writing letters to kylie minogue. Going on every pride March everywhere. Talking on news about love island instead of Brian Cowans hospitalisation. Is he even real! Is he a clone?


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    #2187
    Blueshoe
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    What are the employment statistics of those in the traveling community.


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    #2188
    end of the road
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    fin12 wrote: »
    The British were laughing at Varadkar when he first went over to Theresa May and his stupid comment about watching that Hugh Grant film and being such a fan, can’t believe his in 10 Downing Street. He’s a absolute embarrassment and I swear he better publicly apologize to Michael Martin for comparing him to a sinning priest, his a disgusting p*rick. He made that Comment when Michael Martin is trying to get roads upgraded in Cork but of course cause it’s not about Dublin he couldn’t give a flying f*ck. He hasn’t done a thing noteworthy since he became Taoiseach except jump on the back of both referendums which would both have been passed anyway regardless of who was in office.

    oh i have no time for varadkar either.
    but not a chance would a joker like casey be any better.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #2189
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,282 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    What are the employment statistics of those in the traveling community.

    all facts and statistics about the travelling community are inherently 'racist' because theres no conclusion to be drawn from them that could in any way further the case that they make a positive impact on society, save a few cherrypicked examples like the one that made it to college which is supposed to absolve all of their sins.


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    #2190
    Galwayguy35
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    Blueshoe wrote: »
    What are the employment statistics of those in the traveling community.

    Something like 84% I think.

    But sure if they looked for jobs they'd have to pay tax, can't be having that now!


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    #2191
    Blueshoe
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    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    Something like 84% I think.

    But sure if they looked for jobs they'd have to pay tax, can't be having that now!

    And why is this normalised? Non contributors.


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