Super XV Rugby 2019

Enzokk · 29-06-2019 9:29am

So in the 4 years since the previous World Cup the finalists have been from the South African Conference and New Zealand. No Australian finalist in the 4 years and no team really close either.

As for the Jaguares, I am glad they made the final. They deserve to be there, they have improved year on year and this is just further progression.

Enzokk · 29-06-2019 9:57am

Some match this, from 13-12 at half-time, it is now 27-26, 18 minutes to go.

AdamD · 29-06-2019 10:04am

What a game this is

LuckyGent88 · 29-06-2019 10:05am

Game certainly living up to its expectation

troyzer · 29-06-2019 10:16am

Good game, Hurricanes just a little too frantic at the end. They could have used some northern hemisphere patience there.

The ruck is a complete mess. No penalties for side entry and the Hurricanes especially were sealing off every single ruck.

sydthebeat · 29-06-2019 10:16am

Cracking game.....

Come on the hags in the final!!

thebaz · 29-06-2019 11:04am

Delighted for Jaguares - final may be a step to far - but great season by them

sydthebeat · 29-06-2019 1:10pm

Bookies have the crusaders -14 for the final.

I really hope the jaguares are better than that.

eagle eye · 29-06-2019 2:24pm

I'd be pretty confident they are. I have this down as a scratch, so Crusaders probably 2.5pt favourites as the home team. Bonilla is a phenomenal player, they have a lot of great players right now.

Yeah_Right · 29-06-2019 3:08pm

Crusaders v Hurricanes was a cracking game. Really enjoyed it. And what a performance by the Hags!! Normally I would go for an NZ team over anyone else but I can honestly say, I wouldn't mind if the Hags won it.

Jupiter Mulligan · 29-06-2019 10:24pm

troyzer wrote: »

Good game, Hurricanes just a little too frantic at the end. They could have used some northern hemisphere patience there.

A real shame that the ref missed the last moment deliberate knock-on by Whitelock. If he had penalised him, we could have had a fantastic finish.

Jupiter Mulligan · 29-06-2019 10:26pm

Yeah_Right wrote: »

Crusaders v Hurricanes was a cracking game. Really enjoyed it. And what a performance by the Hags!! Normally I would go for an NZ team over anyone else but I can honestly say, I wouldn't mind if the Hags won it.

What pleased me most about the Jags this season is that they performed so well without Sanchez who was such an important player for them last season.

Looks as though the Pumas are peaking for the RWC, as is their tradition.

Squidgy Black · 30-06-2019 4:07pm

Finlay Christie signed with the Blues, just when you thought maybe the blues were gonna break out the checkbook and make some good signings...

Yeah_Right · 30-06-2019 10:02pm

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Finlay Christie signed with the Blues, just when you thought maybe the blues were gonna break out the checkbook and make some good signings...

Who?

Edit: I actually did my own research. I saw him play a few ttimes for the Canes this year. Not bad and should be alright as a back up.

eagle eye · 01-07-2019 1:12am

Jupiter Mulligan wrote:

What pleased me most about the Jags this season is that they performed so well without Sanchez who was such an important player for them last season.

Yeah and I think Sanchez will lose his spot with the Pumas to Bonilla.

sydthebeat · 01-07-2019 9:49am

eagle eye wrote: »

Yeah and I think Sanchez will lose his spot with the Pumas to Bonilla.

While i agree that Bonilla is playing fantastic rugby, im not so sure at this stage so close to the RWC that Ledesma is going to drop the Pumas record scorer for a guy who has one international cap. (remember, they both are actually the same age !)

It will be interesting to see who gets the nod in the Puma v Australia game as i think thats the game where we'll see who is the favourite for the 10 jersey in the RWC.

eagle eye · 01-07-2019 10:26pm

I get what you are saying and Sanchez is a wonderful player but Bonilla is completely controlling games right now. His performances this season have been nothing short of outstanding.
Bonilla was playing club rugby in Argentina up until last year when he was drafted into the Jaguares set up. I don't think anybody expected to see this level of performance from him at any stage.
I think they could beat Crusaders and it'll be because of Bonilla if it does happen.

Leinstertomas · 02-07-2019 4:47pm

Crotty and Barrett both injured and will miss final. Big blow for Crusaders

hahashake · 02-07-2019 10:00pm

Leinstertomas wrote: »

Crotty and Barrett both injured and will miss final. Big blow for Crusaders

Big blow but they should have the depth to cover the losses. Crotty is a defensive general but the young talent in the Crusaders backs is quite phenomenal right now. Barrett should be able to be covered - Whitelock and Romano are stalwarts, not sure about their non AB 2nd rowers but they probably aren't massive steps down in quality.

Squidgy Black · 02-07-2019 10:07pm

James O'Connor signed with the Reds. Wonder will he look at playing 10? I think Stewart is better suited to centre

mogwai81 · 06-07-2019 8:21am

Living in Germany, if someone has a link for the Super rugby could they please pm me.

sydthebeat · 06-07-2019 8:31am

Well lads and ladies, how do we see this one going? A procession for the crusaders, or a peaking of the hags?

So many unknowns... It's weird to have a final where the two teams haven't met in the regular season. How will the hags fare outside of Argentina? Will the travel take its toll?

How much will the crusaders miss Crotty in midfield and scotty in the tight?

Will reece or Moroni be the star?

Bookies have 13 between them, I think it will be closer....

clsmooth · 06-07-2019 8:52am

Lots of handling errors so far

Squidgy Black · 06-07-2019 8:55am

Crusaders are dominant as expected, but the conditions and the jaguares line speed are killing them with handling errors.

This is going to be a hell of a lot closer than what the bookies predicted.

andymx11 · 06-07-2019 9:16am

Watching in a bar in Koh Samui- tough life...

clsmooth · 06-07-2019 9:38am

Margins quite tight in this one. Jaguares could be ahead but you have to credit the Crusaders scramble defence

clsmooth · 06-07-2019 9:41am

Matera is having a cracker. Involved in everything. Would love a player like that in the Irish back row.

AdamD · 06-07-2019 10:13am

Surely Mo'unga 10 and Barrett 15 is a no brainer for New Zealand

06-07-2019 10:17am

Comfortable enough for Crusaders in the end. Argentina won't be f**king around in this world cup, Jaguars look decent if a bit limited in the forwards.

I do wonder if the later finishing season helps or hinders Southern Hemisphere teams.

eagle eye · 06-07-2019 10:22am

Crusaders were brilliant. Jaguares put up a good fight for a long time.
It was a new experience for most of the Argentinians and it'll stand them in good stead come the World Cup.
Big difference was experience.
Crusaders are the best club rugby side in World Rugby I think.

Hippo · 06-07-2019 10:25am

Despite the margin, the Jags could have won that had they not butchered a couple of certain tries and also tidied up their kicking game. Disappointing.

Former Coach · 06-07-2019 10:34am

A lot closer than the scoreline would suggest!

thebaz · 06-07-2019 11:15am

For the Jags to win they would have needed to be at home, pity - would a neutral venue not be fairer for final - suppose its to do with crowds, and they havnt been great from what i have seen.

troyzer · 06-07-2019 11:52am

thebaz wrote: »

For the Jags to win they would have needed to be at home, pity - would a neutral venue not be fairer for final - suppose its to do with crowds, and they havnt been great from what i have seen.

They wouldn't come close to selling out a neutral venue.

Maybe neutral venue in home country for the highest seed, though that would obviously just be a home final for Jaguares.

eagle eye · 06-07-2019 1:33pm

Squatter wrote:

Is ROG still doing the Crusaders' laundry or has he moved on to driving the team bus this season?

He is finished with Crusaders after today and is full time in his new role as head coach of La Rochelle.
Looking forward to seeing how he does there and how much his time in New Zealand influences his coaching style.

eagle eye · 06-07-2019 1:34pm

One other thing about the game today. The lineouts and scrums were great, no messing about and little time lost over them. It was refreshing to see.

RugbyLover123 · 06-07-2019 4:39pm

Surely Robertson is given the ABs job now?

AbusesToilets · 06-07-2019 4:53pm

Matera was outstanding, best player on the pitch imo. Shame that the Jaguares butchered all their try chances, they were well capable of winning that game. A dry night would've made a world of difference.

hahashake · 06-07-2019 5:26pm

Interestingly the Jaguares/Pumas will have to play the non-Crusader ABs in 2 weeks, as the Crusader players will be rested.

Would be interesting to see other countries minus their top clubs players e.g. England without Saracens players and Ireland without Leinster players.

RugbyLover123 wrote: »

Surely Robertson is given the ABs job now?

I have no clue what stage they are in their decision making process but I'd assume whatever happens in the RWC will have a big effect. If the ABs do the threepeat then Foster may be given the job.

bilston · 06-07-2019 7:05pm

hahashake wrote: »

Interestingly the Jaguares/Pumas will have to play the non-Crusader ABs in 2 weeks, as the Crusader players will be rested.

Would be interesting to see other countries minus their top clubs players e.g. England without Saracens players and Ireland without Leinster players.

I have no clue what stage they are in their decision making process but I'd assume whatever happens in the RWC will have a big effect. If the ABs do the threepeat then Foster may be given the job.

Must be a real chance for Argentina to make a bit of history in that game.

thebaz · 06-07-2019 11:26pm

They won't win the WC but see Argentina having another good tournament , maybe a final - they play such an attractive rugby , like the French of old, and the French now play like the Pumas of old , dreadful stuff.

eagle eye · 06-07-2019 11:28pm

thebaz wrote:

They won't win the WC but see Argentina having another good tournament , maybe a final - they play such an attractive rugby , like the French of old, and the French now play like the Pumas of old , dreadful stuff.

I wouldn't rule it out. They have ayed together all season and there's a lot to be said for that. Only Sanchez hasn't been there and tbh I think he'll be second string to Bonilla.

bilston · 07-07-2019 10:43am

thebaz wrote: »

They won't win the WC but see Argentina having another good tournament , maybe a final - they play such an attractive rugby , like the French of old, and the French now play like the Pumas of old , dreadful stuff.

They should finish ahead of France in their pool, the England game will be very tight as well. Either way I think that means Argentina would play either Wales or Australia in the Quarter Finals. It would be a very brave man to call any of those games at the moment.

thebaz · 07-07-2019 11:02am

bilston wrote: »

They should finish ahead of France in their pool, the England game will be very tight as well. Either way I think that means Argentina would play either Wales or Australia in the Quarter Finals. It would be a very brave man to call any of those games at the moment.

They really are in a tough group - between them and France I'd say - hopefully they get through and decent rugby is the winner - We really did get the softest group, the quaters are where we really will be tested , unless we implode against Scotland

hahashake · 07-07-2019 1:19pm

eagle eye wrote: »

I wouldn't rule it out. They have ayed together all season and there's a lot to be said for that. Only Sanchez hasn't been there and tbh I think he'll be second string to Bonilla.

Not sure about Sanchez's current form but he is an international veteran and in a tight world cup game, that experience could be the difference.

sydthebeat · 07-07-2019 2:17pm

Scott Robinson is the first person ever to win 3 super rugby titles as both player and coach

hahashake · 07-07-2019 2:57pm

sydthebeat wrote: »

Scott Robinson is the first person ever to win 3 super rugby titles as both player and coach

Scott Robertson must be pissed he is only the second person.;)

sydthebeat · 07-07-2019 3:14pm

Lol...

I was at a wedding yesterday, a bit delicate today

Jupiter Mulligan · 07-07-2019 9:34pm

eagle eye wrote: »

I wouldn't rule it out. They have ayed together all season and there's a lot to be said for that. Only Sanchez hasn't been there and tbh I think he'll be second string to Bonilla.

Bonilla's tactical kicking was dire yesterday. Virtually every kick went straight down the throat of a Crusaders defender.

hahashake · 11-07-2019 8:56pm

Supposedly Beauden Barrett to the Blues for 4 years, albeit with a season in Japan in 2021. Other rumour is Jordie Barrett to the Crusaders.

Good news for Blues fans as they haven't had a world class 10 since Carlos Spencer.

Super XV Rugby 2019

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