RTE Lack of Balanced Coverage

Stephen15 · 03-07-2019 6:52pm #1

So watching the news tonight and there was a story about illegal immigrants but of course RTE have to use the PC term undocumented but anyway. I have noticed a trend of RTE to only report positivitely about immigration or pro immigration stories and never give balanced coverage between pro and anti immigration reports.

They also had an interview aswell at the weekend with a person working for an NGO in the Meditarnean but not no mention of anti immigration voices in Italy. Why the lack of balanced coverage as a state broadcaster RTE have a duty to report fair and balanced coverage.

Shefwedfan · 03-07-2019 6:55pm

Stephen15 wrote: »

So watching the news tonight and there was a story about illegal immigrants but of course RTE have to use the PC term undocumented but anyway. Anyway I have noticed a trend of RTE to only report positivitely about immigration or pro immigration stories and never give balanced coverage between pro and anti immigration reports.

They also had an interview aswell at the weekend with a person working for an NGO in the Meditarnean but not no mention of anti immigration voices in Italy. Why the lack of balanced coverage as a state broadcaster RTE have a duty to report fair and balanced coverage.

RTÉ might have a duty but they never do they report what the sitting government tells them and nothing else, otherwise they are afraid the tv license money would dry up

Which other tv station would hire the shower of wasters in rTE and pay them huge money?

It’s standard in UK for bbc and UTV and sky to go after other presenters, not a single one would have any of the RTÉ bunch

marieholmfan · 03-07-2019 6:56pm

Stephen15 wrote: »

So watching the news tonight and there was a story about illegal immigrants but of course RTE have to use the PC term undocumented but anyway. Anyway I have noticed a trend of RTE to only report positivitely about immigration or pro immigration stories and never give balanced coverage between pro and anti immigration reports.

They also had an interview aswell at the weekend with a person working for an NGO in the Meditarnean but not no mention of anti immigration voices in Italy. Why the lack of balanced coverage as a state broadcaster RTE have a duty to report fair and balanced coverage.

Absolutely right. And don't get me started on TV3. I watched that program 'appropriate adult' completely biased. Only one side of the story.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 03-07-2019 6:59pm

Dreadfully unbalanced coverage from RTE. Hours of GAA every weekend without a mention of cycling or squash. Deplorable!

Richard Hillman · 03-07-2019 6:59pm

Whenever they show one of these collections of the migrant dingeys, they always show the view from the Port Side. They will never show from seaside with the Libyan Coast 20 miles in the background. People are duped into thinking that the "rescues" are flat bang in the middle of the Mediterranean Sea. It's Fake News

pjohnson · 03-07-2019 7:00pm

You need to run for Government Stephen. #MakeIrelandGreatAgain. Or start up InfoWars.ie.

Only you can save us with the truth.

marieholmfan · 03-07-2019 7:01pm

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Whenever they show one of these collections of the migrant dingeys, they always show the view from the Port Side. They will never show from seaside with the Libyan Coast 20 miles in the background. People are duped into thinking that the "rescues" are flat bang in the middle of the Mediterranean Sea. It's Fake News

It is Port and Starboard NOT Port and Seaside.
You mean that they always show the view from Starboard.

Harry Palmr · 03-07-2019 7:03pm

Does anyone really need to hear bigots in the name of balance when the Italians are arresting rescuers, refugees are being blown to bits in Libya and the United States are running camps that have pretty grim echoes of other regimes.

Spanish Eyes · 03-07-2019 7:07pm

No offence, but those who watch the Stazi sorry State Broadcaster or reads the biased media these days are possibly of a slightly different generation and may believe everything they read/see from on high.

Those days are numbered. I am an older codger, still all there with my cough drops, and I could not tell you the last time I either watched or listened to RTE. Ugh talk about brainwashing.

Younger people see through this I sincerely hope. Like OP.

03-07-2019 7:09pm

pjohnson wrote: »

Or start up InfoWars.ie.

From a remote oil rig in the North Sea. Or share a tinfoil shrouded basement with Dr. Watson.

_blaaz · 03-07-2019 7:10pm

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Whenever they show one of these collections of the migrant dingeys, they always show the view from the Port Side. They will never show from seaside with the Libyan Coast 20 miles in the background. People are duped into thinking that the "rescues" are flat bang in the middle of the Mediterranean Sea. It's Fake News

While completly unrelated to anything here....afaik max you can see into distance at sea is 12KM,due to curvature of the earth

boombang · 03-07-2019 7:10pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Does anyone really need to hear bigots in the name of balance when the Italians are arresting rescuers, refugees are being blown to bits in Libya and the United States are running camps that have pretty grim echoes of other regimes.

The lack of nuance in the reporting leads to a simplistic understanding of what's going on. RTE's virtue signal coverage doesn't do important issues the analysis they deserve.

Mancomb Seepgood · 03-07-2019 7:11pm

RTE has no obligation to be "balanced".Seriously,check the RTE public service statement: fair,impartial and objective is mentioned in relation to news,not balanced. It will (and should) never be the case that every conceivable opinion about every conceivable issue will get a media airing.I don't want to hear what a homeopath thinks about a new cancer treatment,for example.

Junkyard Tom · 03-07-2019 7:13pm

Stephen15 wrote: »

I have noticed a trend of RTE to only report positivitely about immigration or pro immigration stories and never give balanced coverage between pro and anti immigration reports.

You assume both positions hold equal merit. When you assume you make an ass of u and me.

pjohnson · 03-07-2019 7:13pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Does anyone really need to hear bigots in the name of balance when the Italians are arresting rescuers, refugees are being blown to bits in Libya and the United States are running camps that have pretty grim echoes of other regimes.

Tbf when the superstars of these "truth" movements do get screentime they generally just cause accidental comedy and do their cause more harm than good. I suppose they should get more time to show themselves up :pac:

ted1 · 03-07-2019 7:18pm

marieholmfan wrote: »

It is Port and Starboard NOT Port and Seaside.
You mean that they always show the view from Starboard.

Depends which way the boat is facing. Port is the left if the boat. It’s not the general direction towards Libya.

branie2 · 03-07-2019 7:24pm

That's why I have Sky

DEFTLEFTHAND · 03-07-2019 7:26pm

They've always a fierce hard on for the Democratic Party in the States.

Omackeral · 03-07-2019 7:32pm

Stephen15 wrote: »

So watching the news tonight and there was a story about illegal immigrants but of course RTE have to use the PC term undocumented but anyway.

Only time I've ever seen the term ''undocumented'' is when referring to illegal Irish people in America. But shure look, we couldn't possibly be illegal immigrants and doesn't everyone love the Irish.

Beasty · 03-07-2019 7:34pm

Define "balanced"

silverharp · 03-07-2019 7:43pm

maybe drug dealers should be called unlicensed?

Galwayguy35 · 03-07-2019 7:49pm

Heard a bit about this on the radio news earlier, it's about overstayers here in Ireland who want to get citizenship now.

I'm about as hard on illegal immigration at it's possible to be but the person I heard interviewed was someone who came over with her parents when she was 8 and now can't go to college because of the mess her parents landed her in through no fault of her own.

BattleCorp · 03-07-2019 7:52pm

Stephen15 wrote: »

Anyway I have noticed a trend of RTE to only report positivitely about immigration or pro immigration stories and never give balanced coverage between pro and anti immigration reports.

When's the last time anybody has seen them do a negative story on knackers either?

Mad_maxx · 03-07-2019 7:52pm

Stephen15 wrote: »

So watching the news tonight and there was a story about illegal immigrants but of course RTE have to use the PC term undocumented but anyway. Anyway I have noticed a trend of RTE to only report positivitely about immigration or pro immigration stories and never give balanced coverage between pro and anti immigration reports.

They also had an interview aswell at the weekend with a person working for an NGO in the Meditarnean but not no mention of anti immigration voices in Italy. Why the lack of balanced coverage as a state broadcaster RTE have a duty to report fair and balanced coverage.

Because RTE supports mass immigration, feminism, the " progressive" agenda, the green agenda, travellers, and any other left wing position

They are at the vanguard of the cultural left in this country

So is the guardian newspaper in the UK but they don't demand tax payers prop them up

super_furry · 03-07-2019 7:53pm

Stephen15 wrote: »

So watching the news tonight and there was a story about illegal immigrants but of course RTE have to use the PC term undocumented but anyway. Anyway I have noticed a trend of RTE to only report positivitely about immigration or pro immigration stories and never give balanced coverage between pro and anti immigration reports.

They also had an interview aswell at the weekend with a person working for an NGO in the Meditarnean but not no mention of anti immigration voices in Italy. Why the lack of balanced coverage as a state broadcaster RTE have a duty to report fair and balanced coverage.

I mean when you're getting your news from YouTube and Facebook and treating a lunatic like Gemma O'Doherty as a credible source, then sure, maybe in that world RTE will seem 'unbalanced'.

killbillvol2 · 03-07-2019 7:54pm

You're dead right Stephen.

RTE is completely unbalanced. During the Women's World Cup last night they showed England having more possession than the mighty USA.

Maybe if they'd shown the game from the starboard side of the pitch it would have been fairer (and we could have seen Libya).

Jupiter Mulligan · 03-07-2019 7:54pm

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

I'm about as hard on illegal immigration at it's possible to be but the person I heard interviewed was someone who came over with her parents when she was 8 and now can't go to college because of the mess her parents landed her in through no fault of her own.

So let her sue her parents. What I couldn't understand is how she got an education here; as I assume that, as an illegal, she didn't have a PPSN.

IAMAMORON · 03-07-2019 8:02pm

Op I would say at this point there is a number of ways this thread will go.

35 - 45 % chance - unsubordinated knacker bashing ( most likely )
25 - 30 % chance - some sort RTE is full of overpaid chunts outcry etc etc Pat Kenny is a clown, Miriam O'Callaghan is feminist fundamentalist ( who is overpaid) etc . I might actually join in on this one if it develops.
10-15 % chance - it's all the gubberments fault that Donald Trump is a sleazebag, he spends his entire afternoon with his hand's up his assistants' skirt etc - Varadkar is not really Irish etc.
15 % - other unforeseen garbage - quite possibly Love island or even Wimbledon, it is that time of year.

If your lucky it could go time machine development or Orange march bashing ?

It is too early to tell... in fairness.

killbillvol2 · 03-07-2019 8:06pm

pjohnson wrote: »

Tbf when the superstars of these "truth" movements do get screentime they generally just cause accidental comedy and do their cause more harm than good. I suppose they should get more time to show themselves up :pac:

I'd like Stephen15 to get some screentime. His intelligence would shine through.

BattleCorp · 03-07-2019 8:09pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Op I would say at this point there is a number of ways this thread will go.

35 - 45 % chance - unsubordinated knacker bashing ( most likely )
25 - 30 % chance - some sort RTE is full of overpaid chunts outcry etc etc

.

Count me in on either of those bashings please. I do enjoy being in the upper percentages.

Stephen15 · 03-07-2019 8:14pm

Beasty wrote: »

Define "balanced"

Where there is an issue reported with two sides to the story both sides are given equal coverage. I don't mind pro immigration voices being heard on RTE despite the fact I don't agree with them as long as anti immigration voices are also given the same amount of coverage.

Junkyard Tom · 03-07-2019 8:24pm

Stephen15 wrote: »

Where there is an issue reported with two sides to the story both sides are given equal coverage.

Please familiarise yourself with 'balance fallacy'.

The balance fallacy is an informal logical fallacy that occurs when two sides of an argument are assumed to have equal or comparable value regardless of their respective merits

rationalwiki.org

I'd suggest you avoid forming your opinions from blowhard YouTube idiots too.

super_furry · 03-07-2019 8:26pm

Stephen15 wrote: »

Where there is an issue reported with two sides to the story both sides are given equal coverage. I don't mind pro immigration voices being heard on RTE despite the fact I don't agree with them as long as anti immigration voices are also given the same amount of coverage.

So what? You want Gemma O'Doherty to be plonked down on the Six One?

Voices like that don't deserve equal or balanced coverage. There's no desire for a far right political party in Ireland - just look at the failures from the likes of Gemma, Renua, Declan Ganley and the rest. The national media is reflective of the national mood.

suicide_circus · 03-07-2019 8:29pm

RTE is a liberal south Dublin organisation and they love immigrants. They love when an immigrant arrives with their Deliveroo order. They love when an immigrant plays nanny to their kids for a low low fee. Same way they love travellers. I mean, they'd lodge strenuous objections if a halting site appeared next to their home but travellers give them an opportunity for righteous finger wagging at the intolerent plebs who pay their bloated salaries on pain of imprisonment.

kowloon · 03-07-2019 8:30pm

They've never had a single person on the pro-pitchforking babies side of things, that's bias right there.

03-07-2019 8:31pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Op I would say at this point there is a number of ways this thread will go.

35 - 45 % chance - unsubordinated knacker bashing ( most likely )
25 - 30 % chance - some sort RTE is full of overpaid chunts outcry etc etc Pat Kenny is a clown, Miriam O'Callaghan is feminist fundamentalist ( who is overpaid) etc . I might actually join in on this one if it develops.
10-15 % chance - it's all the gubberments fault that Donald Trump is a sleazebag, he spends his entire afternoon with his hand's up his assistants' skirt etc - Varadkar is not really Irish etc.
15 % - other unforeseen garbage - quite possibly Love island or even Wimbledon, it is that time of year.

If your lucky it could go time machine development or Orange march bashing ?

It is too early to tell... in fairness.

Thread seems to have taken a definite turn. Next time OP post in Current Affairs / IMHO for better chance.

IAMAMORON · 03-07-2019 8:33pm

OP , given the state of Irish media fundamentalism and it's irreverent stampede towards inverted pseudoscientific advanced cultural modelling, do you think that the departure of Brian Dobson was,

a) Sad
b) A necessary evil
c) A welcome relief
d) Caitríona Perry's gain , ( apart from her weight that is )

03-07-2019 8:34pm

suicide_circus wrote: »

RTE is a liberal south Dublin organisation and they love immigrants. They love when an immigrant arrives with their Deliveroo order. They love when an immigrant plays nanny to their kids for a low low fee. Same way they love travellers. I mean, they'd lodge strenuous objections if a halting site appeared next to their home but travellers give them an opportunity for righteous finger wagging at the intolerent plebs who pay their bloated salaries on pain of imprisonment.

It's down to the strength of the VIRTUE SIGNAL that counts

Stephen15 · 03-07-2019 8:37pm

super_furry wrote: »

So what? You want Gemma O'Doherty to be plonked down on the Six One?

Voices like that don't deserve equal or balanced coverage. There's no desire for a far right political party in Ireland - just look at the failures from the likes of Gemma, Renua, Declan Ganley and the rest. The national media is reflective of the national mood.

She is a voice that is against immigration so she could be on talking about the issues assoicated with immigration. She doesn't have to be invited on about chemtrails or vaccinations though. RTE should either give balanced reports about issues or don't report on them at all.

If they don't want anti immigration voices being heard then they shouldn't talk about immigration in the first place.

Galwayguy35 · 03-07-2019 8:40pm

Jupiter Mulligan wrote: »

So let her sue her parents. What I couldn't understand is how she got an education here; as I assume that, as an illegal, she didn't have a PPSN.

Don't understand that myself either, the Brazilians in Gort who everyone knows are overstayers seem to have no problem with the kids going to school.

Unless the teachers are turning a blind eye to their illegal status.

sameoldname · 03-07-2019 8:42pm

Out of interest I checked the total non-EU immigration stats from the CSO. 3.17% of the population is the total for every other nationality combined.
Funnily enough if you multiply 3.17% by 10 you have about the total proportion of threads on boards.ie which are about immigration.

Richard Hillman · 03-07-2019 8:42pm

_blaaz wrote: »

While completly unrelated to anything here....afaik max you can see into distance at sea is 12KM,due to curvature of the earth

You can see Dover from Calais and thats 40km. Dalkey to Howth is 10km and its pretty clear.

I imagine it could be true if its 1 boat from another boat 12KM in the middle of the sea, but you'd definitely see Coastline from 20k out, even if its relatively flat.

Gimme A Pound · 03-07-2019 8:43pm

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

the Stazi sorry State Broadcaster

Second dubious comparison to the East German secret police here this week.

killbillvol2 · 03-07-2019 8:46pm

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Don't understand that myself either, the Brazilians in Gort who everyone knows are overstayers seem to have no problem with the kids going to school.

Unless the teachers are turning a blind eye to their illegal status.

Are you actually so stupid that you think schools check the immigration status of students?

Junkyard Tom · 03-07-2019 8:46pm

I see 'virtue signalling' has been cited.

Other terms trotted out by the rather dimwitted in favour of an actual argument:

Cultural Marxist
Snowflake
Esjaydoubleyew
Libtard
Feminazi
White Knight

...and so on.

kowloon · 03-07-2019 8:47pm

Stephen15 wrote: »

If they don't want anti immigration voices being heard then they shouldn't talk about immigration in the first place.

What if they're just reporting something that has happened? Do they need somone on to give an opinion piece about it?

kowloon · 03-07-2019 8:49pm

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

I see 'virtue signalling' has been cited.

Other terms trotted out by the rather dimwitted in favour of an actual argument:

Cultural Marxist
Snowflake
Esjaydoubleyew
Libtard
Feminazi
White Knight

...and so on.

The what?

Gimme A Pound · 03-07-2019 8:50pm

kowloon wrote: »

The what?

SJW. Phoneticise, man! :pac:

kowloon · 03-07-2019 8:51pm

Gimme A Pound wrote: »

SJW. Phoneticise, man! :pac:

Ah, shag, I done can't read good.

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