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Barclays change phone app logo to pride flag. Some people unhappy

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭lbc2019


    Do you remember when it was "what 2 consensual adults do in their own homes is none of our business. It doesn't effect you either way". People could get on board with that, even if they found it repulsive.

    It's not really like that anymore, is it?

    The nerve!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭lbc2019


    the_syco wrote: »
    I love that it offends the Daily Fail readers!

    Everything offends them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭peddlelies


    MrFresh wrote: »
    How so?

    Because not promoting something isn't the same as disavowing it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    It's meant to be... That's the point...I wanted to make sure no one thought of it as a comparison..

    But you are comparing it. Otherwise why bring it up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    As can its customers.

    Who said otherwise?

    All I see is people moaning about companies "forcing" stuff on them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Just the latest social good vibes movement for soulless corporations to cynically exploit.

    Oh yeah Apple you're so right on and virtuous what with your support of Western civil rights movements. Pity about your mass exploitation of cheap eastern labor though. Not exactly a consistent position morally speaking.

    How did Apple come into this?

    Changing the icons is a pretty useless update in my opinion and it’s totally cost free signalling and bandwagon jumping.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    Who said otherwise?

    All I see is people moaning about companies "forcing" stuff on them.

    People moaned about a free U2 album a few years back. People are complainers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,209 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    How did Apple come into this?

    Changing the icons is a pretty useless update in my opinion and it’s totally cost free signalling and bandwagon jumping.

    Just an example corporation.. could have picked any. They all love the latest cause célèbre to exploit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Do you remember when it was "what 2 consensual adults do in their own homes is none of our business. It doesn't effect you either way". People could get on board with that, even if they found it repulsive.

    It's not really like that anymore, is it?

    How is it not?

    I'm in no way affected by any gay people. I'm sure some of them even walk near me on the street and I dont even notice, imagine that.

    how has Barclays normal logo affected you? Surely them changing it temporarily on an app cant actually affect you anymore than the normal one?
    Do rainbow flags give you flashbacks to your more "liberal" youth?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Just an example corporation

    Unless they changed their logo, not relevant.

    That said Apple did have a rainbow logo back when it was neither profitable nor popular.

    Not that it was gay related.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    People moaned about a free U2 album a few years back. People are complainers.

    In fairness, that was valid. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭Hercule Poirot


    My own personal thought is that there's a rush by society in general to make up for the mistreatment and revulsion that homosexuals were put under for decades before we finally realised that hey, homosexuals are people too!

    It's a bit like meeting your school bully at a reunion and they spend the night telling you how sorry they are and keep buying you drinks to make up for it - it's annoying and it doesn't change the past

    Yay, you've changed, there's no need to make a big deal out of it, just stop being a dick and we'll get along fine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,018 ✭✭✭mikemac2


    Sure every corporation has a diversity committee these days. You can call yourself a straight ally and get a rainbow lanyard yaay

    They will still have bullying cases, others on stress leave and more made compulsory redundant

    When HR say talk to us, our door is open and we care then run away


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 weke wofi


    FunLover18 wrote: »
    would it be ok for a bank with an anti abortion belief to change the icon to a dead baby for a week?
    You're right, it is a completely ridiculous example.

    or if they changed to a Repeal logo before the referendum here?


  • Posts: 5,853 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    In fairness, they are probably just trying to make up for the years they supported the apartheid regime in South Africa.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    weke wofi wrote: »
    or if they changed to a Repeal logo before the referendum here?

    They're not comparable and the OP has derailed his own thread by bringing it up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    the_syco wrote: »
    I love that it offends the Daily Fail readers!

    Guardian had a few articles by gay writters who were less than enthusiastic about woke advertising. Lgbt (lettuce, guacamole, beacon, tomato) sandwiches from m&s were not overly enthusiastically recieved.

    I think it's cynical, it's jumping on a bandwagon and it's treating people like idiots. I'd be a lot more interested to find out what percentage of Barclays top brass are gay or can be openly gay without harming their career prospects. And since we are interested in diversity, how many of them did not attend private schools and read classics and modern history in Oxbridge (an education that seems to be very relevant to become an investment banker).

    As a straight person it's very hard to go against this because you are quickly accused of homophobia but to me it just smells of Pepsi ad where one of the Jenners or Kardashians brought together riot police and protesters with a Pepsi.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    peddlelies wrote: »
    Because not promoting something isn't the same as disavowing it.


    That's correct. But pretending like an app logo is forcing pride on you seems pretty anti pride.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭peddlelies


    MrFresh wrote: »
    That's correct. But pretending like an app logo is forcing pride on you seems pretty anti pride.

    Don't get the logic there I'm afraid. I don't think Businesses should be getting involved with Politics, that's about the sum of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,447 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    meeeeh wrote: »
    Lgbt (lettuce, guacamole, beacon, tomato) sandwiches from m&s were not overly enthusiastically recieved.

    Lol, you're taking the pi$s?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 weke wofi


    meeeeh wrote: »
    No.

    maybe add some Q-cumber...?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    meeeeh wrote: »
    Guardian had a few articles by gay writters who were less than enthusiastic about woke advertising. Lgbt (lettuce, guacamole, beacon, tomato) sandwiches from m&s were not overly enthusiastically recieved.

    I think it's cynical, it's jumping on a bandwagon and it's treating people like idiots. I'd be a lot more interested to find out what percentage of Barclays top brass are gay or can be openly gay without harming their career prospects. And since we are interested in diversity, how many of them did not attend private schools and read classics and modern history in Oxbridge (an education that seems to be very relevant to become an investment banker).

    As a straight person it's very hard to go against this because you are quickly accused of homophobia but to me it just smells of Pepsi ad where one of the Jenners or Kardashians brought together riot police and protesters with a Pepsi.


    I would love to see the stuff that PR and Marketing Departments put out that doesn't make the final cut. Especially on the whole "diversity" front. Marketing and Advertising love a bit of diversity. Apart from their own offices, of course. Diversity only counts if people can see it. Like going to the Gym.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,354 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    You can guarantee why banks and big private companies jump on bandwagons.

    They think there's money to be made. End of.

    They couldn't care less about the movement themselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    Or why not put an Israeli flag or Palestinian flag on it?.
    Why would they do that?

    But anyway, I agree that it looks fake and cynical by big companies, but I don't get this talk of "forced". A rainbow symbol a few weeks a year is not forcing anything other than a colourful symbol.

    Speaking of Apple, their logo was unintentionally a Pride symbol years back!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,995 ✭✭✭take everything


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    Or why not put an Israeli flag or Palestinian flag on it?

    Or better still, why not bother getting involved with all of this PC palaver and just sell your products or services.

    Because there's money to be made from gay people. It's a no-brainer.

    Not so much, say, plumping for either the Palestinian or Israeli-supporter demographic.

    I'd love to be at the marketing meetings for these places.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,995 ✭✭✭take everything


    You don't have to be "anti pride" to not want it's symbol on your home screen.

    You don't have to be "anti equality" to not want pride stuff shoved down your throat by corporations.

    This is what gets me about people (gay and straight) then lapping this **** up.
    Instead of swallowing the latest corporate cynicism, why not actually just be decent to gay people. People are morons.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,905 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    This PC liberal nonsense has to have peaked at this stage. People are finally getting sick of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,995 ✭✭✭take everything


    corporations engaging in popular social causes makes me want to vomit. where were they when it was really difficult to be gay?

    In the marketing department meticulously calculating that it still wasn't a financially safe bet to support pride.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,189 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


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